Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

[AmericasTeam]

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let's not be overly dramatic. Everyone here is allowed to have their own opinion and you of all people exercise that right continually. Not everyone agrees on the quality of the Madden title and there shouldn't be any surprise in that.

Yeah, everyone posts their own opinion here, but if you post something too positive your raked through the coals for pages. If you post a negative opinion, you get thanked and high fived like there's no tomorrow. Guess misery loves company.

There was a comment yesterday I think about how they couldn't believe the devs weren't monitoring this thread to put out the fire. They do monitor this thread, but if anyone on here were a dev, would they want their presence known? I know I wouldn't. I'm not a dev, and can't stand to read this forum the majority of the time. The negativity here is just ridiculous. Some is warranted, but some of it is most certainly not.

I'm an older gamer. I loved 2K5 and still have it. I've hated on EA probably more than most here. I want competition and want this game to improve quickly. The sad thing is, some can't give credit where it's due. This game looks to be a ton better than 25 (still has many issues).

I had a friend comment on something about Madden 15 the other day. It was a total ignorant statement. I immediately asked him if he'd been to OS. He quickly responded yes. I said, don't bother to visit the forum if you want to know anything but mostly biased opinions and false agendas. This doesn't mean everyone that has issues with the game. I have plenty. However, I do like what I'm seeing from 15. Will the upgrades give me more than my usual 2 weeks worth of play before I hate the game? Hopefully, but I won't know until its in my hands.

Rant over. I'm sure there are some that will want to bring the torches and pitchforks. That's fine. I have an opinion like anyone else, and I won't sway, rollover, or get pushed around because of it.

[FBall Life]

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I agree but that poster said he can't see how it's even subject to opinion.

2+2=4

Let's use that as a baseline for the argument.

That other game had replays, many replays, from beginning to end using a broadcast camera angle. There was also commentary breaking down the individual stats for each team.

Those two things...those two simple things...are not in Madden 15. In Madden 15 you have zoomed in replays that don't show you the full development of a play. You don't have commentary going over the stats for each team.

That's what videogame football halftime shows consist of. Highlights and stat analysis. And EA still hasn't gotten there yet.

See? I took opinion out of it and just compared both halftime shows using factual information. 2+2=4 is not subject to opinion, just as the comparisons made above were done so using facts, not subject to opinion.

The original poster I quoted, it may be his opinion that "less is more". He's entitled to that opinion. But factually speaking, that other game is much more accurate to a real broadcast because of the things mentioned earlier.

That's the long explanation of something that I thought was pretty self explanatory when I originally posted...

[SageInfinite]

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Yeah, everyone posts their own opinion here, but if you post something too positive your raked through the coals for pages. If you post a negative opinion, you get thanked and high fived like there's no tomorrow. Guess misery loves company.

There was a comment yesterday I think about how they couldn't believe the devs weren't monitoring this thread to put out the fire. They do monitor this thread, but if anyone on here were a dev, would they want their presence known? I know I wouldn't. I'm not a dev, and can't stand to read this forum the majority of the time. The negativity here is just ridiculous. Some is warranted, but some of it is most certainly not.

I'm an older gamer. I loved 2K5 and still have it. I've hated on EA probably more than most here. I want competition and want this game to improve quickly. The sad thing is, some can't give credit where it's due. This game looks to be a ton better than 25 (still has many issues).

I had a friend comment on something about Madden 15 the other day. It was a total ignorant statement. I immediately asked him if he'd been to OS. He quickly responded yes. I said, don't bother to visit the forum if you want to know anything but mostly biased opinions and false agendas. This doesn't mean everyone that has issues with the game. I have plenty. However, I do like what I'm seeing from 15. Will the upgrades give me more than my usual 2 weeks worth of play before I hate the game? Hopefully, but I won't know until its in my hands.

Rant over. I'm sure there are some that will want to bring the torches and pitchforks. That's fine. I have an opinion like anyone else, and I won't sway, rollover, or get pushed around because of it.

Just go check the thread for the first live stream they did and see how negative and biased it was. A majority of the posters here don't have agendas. When the devs do right by us, they get the credit. When we see something we don't like we don't sugar coat it. That's just how it is here. People on this site don't "hate" Madden as much as people think.

[oneamongthefence]

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Agreed. The graphics are just plain nuts. Can't argue with that. But that makes you wonder even more why the heck they WOULDN'T want to have more tight shots on the players. Why in the heck would they NOT want to show off something that looks that incredible???

I just don't know.

Except Tom Brady's arm is obviously painted half blue lol. I'm glad Peyton has a really good face scan this year. Shadows look nice really makes everything look more organic and lifelike.

[AmericasTeam]

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Just go check the thread for the first live stream they did and see how negative and biased it was. A majority of the posters here don't have agendas. When the devs do right by us, they get the credit. When we see something we don't like we don't sugar coat it. That's just how it is here. People on this site don't "hate" Madden as much as people think.

I agree. Most don't have an agenda, but the way most issues are presented are not helpful or constructive. You don't have to sugarcoat to have your voice heard. With the state of the Madden forum, there is absolutely no way for us to be taken seriously by the dev team.

[videlsports]

You don't mind that they disappear too fast to be read?

It stays up a pretty good time ImO maybe 2 more seconds,but in both games it stayed up long to me

[DNMHIII]

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I agree. Most don't have an agenda, but the way most issues are presented are not helpful or constructive. You don't have to sugarcoat to have your voice heard. With the state of the Madden forum, there is absolutely no way for us to be taken seriously by the dev team.

In all fairness though, I think some people including myself have a hard time taking the Madden team seriously after the last 6+ years of spinning in circles while other sport titles continue to progress at what I consider a more aggressive pace.

I actually couldn't care less if the Madden Devs take me seriously, I just want them to make a great football game.

[SageInfinite]

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I agree. Most don't have an agenda, but the way most issues are presented are not helpful or constructive. You don't have to sugarcoat to have your voice heard. With the state of the Madden forum, there is absolutely no way for us to be taken seriously by the dev team.

We're already taken seriously by the dev team. Rex has made several posts here and says the team reads everything. There are plenty of helpful and constructive posts and posters here. We all see and interpret things the way we want to though.

[charter04]

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I agree. Most don't have an agenda, but the way most issues are presented are not helpful or constructive. You don't have to sugarcoat to have your voice heard. With the state of the Madden forum, there is absolutely no way for us to be taken seriously by the dev team.

Not true at all. Rex made mention of things that have been on OS forums. They read the forums. They take notice. They are just mature enough to sift through some trolling and get the constructive stuff.

[Big FN Deal]

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I agree. Most don't have an agenda, but the way most issues are presented are not helpful or constructive. You don't have to sugarcoat to have your voice heard. With the state of the Madden forum, there is absolutely no way for us to be taken seriously by the dev team.

I trying to think of a way to ask you to help me understand where you're coming from without me coming across like a Richard, lol. The state of the Madden forum is a direct reflection of the state of the game. I honestly can't think of a negative comment that wouldn't pretty much be spot on and proven by the actual game, maybe aside from graphics, which should be a given. People have complaints about acclaimed sports titles like The Show, so it begs to reason that there would be even more so with a game like Madden.

I get that OS is all about constructive criticism but that's just a way to keep some decorum, imo, it has squat to do with the devs taking our feedback seriously. Prime example, LBz, DueceDouglas, DECEBB, Phobia and Gotmadskillzson, just to name a few, have created outstanding constructive entire threads about improving various aspects of this game, that Tiburon obviously couldn't care less about.

I'll stop because I'm about to go on a pointless rant but I don't understand where this stuff about "Madden's not that bad", "We can't have nice things in the Madden forum due to hate", etc come from.

[A_Quiet_Pro]

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Agreed. The graphics are just plain nuts. Can't argue with that. But that makes you wonder even more why the heck they WOULDN'T want to have more tight shots on the players. Why in the heck would they NOT want to show off something that looks that incredible???

I just don't know.

The craziest thing about these screens? (As far as I know), They're NOT EVEN RETAIL GRADE. RETAIL graphics are gonna blow you away this year it looks like.

[jmurphy31]

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That's what the problem is, people aren't allowed to have their own opinion on here unless it goes along with the majority. If that other game didn't have Berman and espn I can easily see M15's being as good if not better.

I don't think it mattered that berman or espn were slapped on it. Look at the announcing team. It had two studio actors and it was pretty solid. I think people liked the halftime show because of the set up of it. It looked like TV.

And as I stated earlier in the thread people combine the halftime show with the weekly sports center show and that's where it's better than Madden. Just due to the fact that madden does not have a weekly show at all nor less one that includes scores, highlights, injury updates, draft info, etc

[jmurphy31]

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Also, not sure how others feel but in cfm if the halftime show doesn't include other scores I would rather have a weekly recap show than a halftime one.

[FaceMask]

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The craziest thing about these screens? (As far as I know), They're NOT EVEN RETAIL GRADE. RETAIL graphics are gonna blow you away this year it looks like.

Looking forward to the day in Madden when the animations catch up with the graphics.

[A_Quiet_Pro]

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Looking forward to the day in Madden when the animations catch up with the graphics.

This ^^^^^^^^^^