Madden NFL 15 Livestream: Connected Franchise

[JaymeeAwesome]

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Let's all hope he is a FB lol. With the way EA he is probably a CB....

I watched the stream again. He is a FB.

[Big FN Deal]

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I agree that you never know what's going to happen in the real nfl sometimes. I just wish Madden did a better job at developing those stories. Even Madden 06 on PS2 had the thing were a player gets mad and demands a trade. If those guys like Cutler are gone like that I want the announcers to mention it.

Yeah man, I already mentioned that same thing earlier ITT and it's odd some people keep citing real NFL personnel moves as a likely excuse for this stuff in Madden, when it's well known that Madden so often lacks context. There's a simple premise that Tiburon should follow when applicable, whenever they try to implement or emulate something from the real NFL, recreate the process which will organically recreate the result, don't just directly recreate the result.

[Sheba2011]

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All you have to do is look at this thread to see that there obviously is still an issue with questionable CPU AI player movement and roster turnover. Some think it "could" happen. But most of us think its a bit out of control with the amount of quality players missing after 1 season simmed.


It would be nice if CFM gave us the option to turn off CPU player movement and FA signings all together. This would only be possible if you turned OFF injuries. IMO I would gladly turn off injuries to be able to stop all the roster turnover. Derrick Carr starting was on point no doubt but some of the things I saw with my Bears roster were just disappointing especially after ONLY 1 year. It just seemed that the guys that could reasonably be off the roster were still in Chicago, but the guys that are looked at as the young core foundations of the franchise were NOT.
(o-line).


Also Hester just signed a 3 year deal in Atlanta and he is already in Oakland after 1 season? IDK man that's awfully fast. I can see moving a player going into the last year of a contract but not after year 1.


Also has anyone heard anything yet on how easy it will be to control all 32 this year? Or has it not changed from last year.


I like some of the ideas from the stream but right now they mean nothing to me until I see them work correctly in game.

It sucks seeing it happen to your favorite team but it's not completely out of the question. As for the young lineman we really do need to see their depth chart to understand what was going on and why they aren't starting (i.e. injuries, scheme etc). Devin Hester will be 32 years old this year its not entirely surprising to see a team cut a 32 year old kick returner especially since after the first year of his contract the team can save money against the cap by cutting him. In the real NFL after year 1 he is only guaranteed $500,000. It was a typical older veteran prove it year to year contract.

[Sheba2011]

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It's showing the Players Madden Rating. I agree, It has to be removed, don't care if it's week one. That's when previous years stats should pop-up.
Heck, pop-up the Player's profile pic, years in league & what College he went to.....something better than Madden ratings.

I wonder if they show ratings in week 1 because of rookies. They don't have previous year stats to show for them.

[Big FN Deal]

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It sucks seeing it happen to your favorite team but it's not completely out of the question. As for the young lineman we really do need to see their depth chart to understand what was going on and why they aren't starting (i.e. injuries, scheme etc). Devin Hester will be 32 years old this year its not entirely surprising to see a team cut a 32 year old kick returner especially since after the first year of his contract the team can save money against the cap by cutting him. In the real NFL after year 1 he is only guaranteed $500,000. It was a typical older veteran prove it year to year contract.

Just out of curiosity, why keep referencing real NFL personnel moves in relation to what happened in the CFM stream, when most likely CFM has no way of representing those moves, in most of these ways? If I'm not misunderstanding those that are concerned about those CFM moves shown, it's about the legacy issue of a lack of why they happen in Madden, not a question of if they ever occur in real life, apples and oranges.

[Sheba2011]

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Just out of curiosity, why keep referencing real NFL personnel moves in relation to what happened in the CFM stream, when most likely CFM has no way of representing those moves, in most of these ways? If I'm not misunderstanding those that are concerned about those CFM moves shown, it's about the legacy issue of a lack of why they happen in Madden, not a question of if they ever occur in real life, apples and oranges.

All I read about in every thread here is how people want a real NFL experience. The game is providing one (whether intentionally programmed or a legacy issue) and then people say "there is no way my team would do that in real life ever". I keep reading comments of how this would never happen in the real NFL, I am pointing out that it does happen. People want the real thing until they realize the grass isn't always greener.

[CT Pitbull]

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It does scare me that they said the AI will make more trades. I'm fine with it as long as they are realistic, but I don't know with the comment about an increase in trades.

Exactly they don't need the AI to be making more trades, they just need the trades that they do make to actually make sense. The intelligence and ability to make sound football decisions of the AI GM needs to be increased.

[T5063]

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It's showing the Players Madden Rating. I agree, It has to be removed, don't care if it's week one. That's when previous years stats should pop-up.
Heck, pop-up the Player's profile pic, years in league & what College he went to.....something better than Madden ratings.

Yeah, the madden ratings totally kill all immersion. Its just smacks you in the face and reminds you you're playing a video game.

Heck, even listing the player's favorite food or his girlfriends first name would be better than his ratings.

[Big FN Deal]

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All I read about in every thread here is how people want a real NFL experience. The game is providing one (whether intentionally programmed or a legacy issue) and then people say "there is no way my team would do that in real life ever". People want the real thing until they realize the grass isn't always greener.

I'll tread lightly so I don't come across the wrong way, having the AI in Madden make random personnel moves without context because random personnel moves with context happen in the real NFL is not providing a real NFL experience, there not even the same thing. It's no different than the David Tyree catch, retired players coming back, player injuries and host of other things that happen in real life but can lack context in Madden.

It's like saying a broken clock isn't really broken because it's "right" twice a day, lol.

[T5063]

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Let's all hope he is a FB lol. With the way EA he is probably a CB....

According to the Bears roster he's a Safety.

[CT Pitbull]

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According to the Bears roster he's a Safety.

#29 for Chicago is S Danny McCray irl. he is a black guy with dreads. the guy in the stream was NOT Danny McCray. it was a white guy and he was about 290-300 lbs. Must be a drafted player from the simmed draft.

[JaymeeAwesome]

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#29 for Chicago is S Danny McCray irl. he is a black guy with dreads. the guy in the stream was NOT Danny McCray. it was a white guy and he was about 290-300 lbs. Must be a drafted player from the simmed draft.

I watched the stream again. He is a FB. Most likely from the draft as you mentioned above.

[Sheba2011]

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I'll tread lightly so I don't come across the wrong way, having the AI in Madden make random personnel moves without context because random personnel moves with context happen in the real NFL is not providing a real NFL experience, there not even the same thing. It's no different than the David Tyree catch, retired players coming back, player injuries and host of other things that happen in real life but can lack context in Madden.

It's like saying a broken clock isn't really broken because it's "right" twice a day, lol.

How do you know they are random personal moves? They did mention they upgraded the trade logic and spent extensive time with the CPU Game Prep logic. Maybe the CPU saw David Fales as the QB of the future and spent enough XP and maybe Cutler regressed enough to where the difference between them wasn't that much (not completely out of the question Cutler is only an 86 in the game). Again though we are all debating something we don't know, no one even knows if those guys were injured or traded.

[Sheba2011]

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#29 for Chicago is S Danny McCray irl. he is a black guy with dreads. the guy in the stream was NOT Danny McCray. it was a white guy and he was about 290-300 lbs. Must be a drafted player from the simmed draft.

Danny McCray is a free agent next year. They probably didn't resign him and drafted a fullback and gave them his number.

[mnuccio]

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The hate in this thread is over the top.

I am NOT an EA fanboy, and I think that both Madden and NCAA were unmitigated disasters on the ps3 and 360, but the improvements to CFM for this year seem substantial and significant. No single player is ever going to get everything he wants, but the general sentiment seems to be something like, "This still isn't in, ha, I knew it, EA sucks."

The sim improvements, the randomized draft class improvement, the training improvements, even name-race correlations and school prestige-elite prospect correlations -- there seems to be a HECK of a lot to be happy about this year.

And it looks like the game plays much better, too.

I suppose that my overall impression while watching that stream was, "Wow. Really cool upgrades and improvements. Seems very non-EA-like. But crap -- same horrible CFM user interface..."