Judge Rules In Favor of O'Bannon, NCAA Violates Anti-Trust Law

[Perfect Zero]

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I'm going to have to read over the whole decision. If there's one thing about Operation Sports posters, it's that they are greatly optimistic about any news. What does the $5,000 pertain to? Is that overall money for when the players were in college or is that per licensing agreement? We also have to see if EA really wants to make the game again since they were burned in the last round of judiciary backstabbing. Are all the universities going to partake in licensing? Will players that do not give consent be editable and if so how much editing can the user do?

If EA is willing to put another game out and if they can get a large number of universities to give their rights to be in the game, then I don't see why we couldn't have another game in 2017 at the earliest. If there is more fighting to be had (which could even land this case before the Supreme Court), then we might be out of luck in this generation.

[MichaelAngeloTMNT]

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Good news. It will be nice to have names and likenesses in the game on release day now. Hopefully, they can scan the players in like Madden too. O'Bannon Football '15.

I'm sure EA is working on a NCAA Football game as we speak. Once, this gets straightened out, they can add in the players and get it out ASAP.

[loccdogg26]

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Good news. It will be nice to have names and likenesses in the game on release day now. Hopefully, they can scan the players in like Madden too. O'Bannon Football '15.

I'm sure EA is working on a NCAA Football game as we speak. Once, this gets straightened out, they can add in the players and get it out ASAP.

Doubt it. EA fired most of the people who worked on the game. They only kept a few.

[soonerfan1969]

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i wonder how many non revenue producing sports will be eliminated because of this ruling. don't forget about "title 9" either, ladies gonna get paid also. could very easily come down to "if you spend 50 million on the men's sports, you got to spend 50 million on women's sports.

worst case scenario is the cost to attend college goes up for regular students, who then riot and burn down the colleges and your having heart surgery perfomed by a doctor with a tijuana doctors degree.

[JustAnotherGamer]

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Are there any real lawyers out there?

The question I have is why is it $5000. There doesn't seem to be any logic to that. What is to stop another lawsuit trying to get rid of the $5K cap?

[ODogg]

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This is a big ruling and really a fair and positive one in my opinion but with appeals coming we are still a very long way away from NCAA video games coming back... The biggest thing is that we need the schools/conferences to jump back on board with EA or whoever before games are made again.

Everyone's assuming a lengthy appeals process...I think there's a high chance of a settlement versus a long appeals process...too much money being left on the table by dragging this out for both sides..

[JustAnotherGamer]

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i wonder how many non revenue producing sports will be eliminated because of this ruling. don't forget about "title 9" either, ladies gonna get paid also. could very easily come down to "if you spend 50 million on the men's sports, you got to spend 50 million on women's sports.

worst case scenario is the cost to attend college goes up for regular students, who then riot and burn down the colleges and your having heart surgery perfomed by a doctor with a tijuana doctors degree.

i also wonder about the 90-100 teams that lose money playing football. competitively they can't NOT pay the players which means the cost will be passed on to students/tax payers.

How many non-revenue sports will be cut so that FB and BB can take up even more room?

[ODogg]

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Exactly. You know how many Winston jerseys FSU will sell now that they can put his name on it. Its a new stream of revenue and they can also increase the price of those jerseys.

I wouldnt expect a game in 15 but I think 16 is a good shot. Gives the conferences time to get these likeness deals in place.

I agree, I think 2016 is when we have our game back...

[fballturkey]

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Everyone's assuming a lengthy appeals process...I think there's a high chance of a settlement versus a long appeals process...too much money being left on the table by dragging this out for both sides..

I've read some speculation that because the ruling is pretty generous to the NCAA (allowing them to set limits at all, making them relatively low, and letting the money be placed in a trust) they may cut their losses and not risk a judge down the line deciding that they have no right to set any limits.

[ODogg]

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I've read some speculation that because the ruling is pretty generous to the NCAA (allowing them to set limits at all, making them relatively low, and letting the money be placed in a trust) they may cut their losses and not risk a judge down the line deciding that they have no right to set any limits.

Exactly right, I think 5k is a number that the schools can get behind...if they appeal it could get a worse number, or like you said, unlimited...

[JustAnotherGamer]

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Exactly right, I think 5k is a number that the schools can get behind...if they appeal it could get a worse number, or like you said, unlimited...

If it such a good deal, why won't the players appeal? I can't see any logic behind the $5K cap…

[ODogg]

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If it such a good deal, why won't the players appeal? I can't see any logic behind the $5K cap…

I would think if anyone would appeal it'd be the players but they may not because $5,000 is a lot better than zero which is what they could get if they appeal and lose.

[Cam Fan]

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Here's a breakdown:

• If a school wants to offer its recruits $5,000 per year out of a trust fund, the NCAA can't stop them from doing that. However, the NCAA can require that the school has to pay all of its recruits the same amount, which is a big blow to middle-of-the-road schools, who could have potentially placed more value on players than the top schools, and thus saved up to offer those players more money.
• Schools don't have to offer any money, as long as they at least offer scholarships at the cost of attendance.
• Athletes still can't market themselves. Wilken wrote that those rules are pro-competitive.

[ODogg]

Re: Judge Rules In Favor of O'Bannon, NCAA Violates Anti-Trust Law

Here's a breakdown:

• If a school wants to offer its recruits $5,000 per year out of a trust fund, the NCAA can't stop them from doing that. However, the NCAA can require that the school has to pay all of its recruits the same amount, which is a big blow to middle-of-the-road schools, who could have potentially placed more value on players than the top schools, and thus saved up to offer those players more money.
• Schools don't have to offer any money, as long as they at least offer scholarships at the cost of attendance.
• Athletes still can't market themselves. Wilken wrote that those rules are pro-competitive.

Number two doesn't mean anything though as schools that would choose not to wouldn't be able to market players or football showing players and that'd never happen. They would make more money from marketing, even the smaller schools, than just $5,000 considering the money is pooled and not just ind. markets.

[coogrfan]

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Exactly. You know how many Winston jerseys FSU will sell now that they can put his name on it. Its a new stream of revenue and they can also increase the price of those jerseys.

I wouldnt expect a game in 15 but I think 16 is a good shot. Gives the conferences time to get these likeness deals in place.

That seems a bit soon. Am I not right in thinking yesterday's ruling is only the opening salvo in what is likely to be a protracted series of appeals?