NBA 2K15 New Shot Meter Explained

[eko718]

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Just an FYI I am a sim type of player and I have not been able to abuse this on Superstar SIM. I think the key is finding the right level to play on. I have not once felt like "ok I am going to win this game now" If you know what I mean.

Mike worked and tuned this along with how well I was shooting and I think at least on superstar sim it is in a really good place.

On open shots I have that little excitement in my belly because I know I can really influence the open shots and that also puts a little pressure on you to execute especially when your down.

I usually play all star because I hate AI cheese but Superstar sim seems very balanced to me where it is right now. Def a challenge shooting wise.

I played a few games on HOF and I really had to concertrate and I only play that level with teams I know well.

Any time I felt it was too easy Mike made adjustments. But again it will really depend on what level you select.

So maybe you can answer this question I asked earlier. Is there more 'grace' with the meter to be able to achieve a perfect shot with say a Step Curry than there is for a Kendrick Perkins? Is the zone within which a perfect release can be achieved larger for good shooters versus poor shooters?

The concern is an easy shot animation that belongs to a poor shooter, may produce higher shooting percentage than a more difficult shot animation that belongs to a good shooter. Maybe you can shed some light.

[Da_Czar]

New Shot Meter

So maybe you can answer this question I asked earlier. Is there more 'grace' with the meter to be able to achieve a perfect shot with say a Step Curry than there is for a Kendrick Perkins? Is the zone within which a perfect release can be achieved larger for good shooters versus poor shooters?



The concern is an easy shot animation that belongs to a poor shooter, may produce higher shooting percentage than a more difficult shot animation that belongs to a good shooter. Maybe you can shed some light.

Depending on all accounted for factors, yes.

I asked above but post guys you are concerned about on both the bad shooter easy release and good shooter difficult release.

[NDAlum]

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Who are some bad shooters with easy releases you guys are most concerned with ?

I can't answer this until the games comes out.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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Makes shooting feel less random huh ?

[bxphenom7]

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Most likely turning it off for visual purposes. I think shooting has always worked fine, except for the excessive amounts of threes but that's really if you don't play simulation style.

[jersez]

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Will the meter also be applied to quick release shots like hook shots, floaters and runners? How will the game handle those shot success?

[JerzeyReign]

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Superstar sim seems very balanced to me where it is right now. Def a challenge shooting wise.

SS sim isn't balanced for us online players. In fact, it doesn't even seem like the difficulty is raised at all this release.

Honestly, if ratings aren't properly adjusted, for example guys like Lebron running around with an 88 3pt rating (better than Ray Allen btw), this system doesn't seem better than the current one. It really sounds worse. Putting everything on stick skills instead of ratings will show its ugly face once guys have learned their releases.

[JerzeyReign]

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Who are some bad shooters with easy releases you guys are most concerned with ?

Not sure of his rating but I'm positive Norris Cole can hang with the best shooters in the game - ask any guy who plays MyTeam haha.

[El_Poopador]

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SS sim isn't balanced for us online players. In fact, it doesn't even seem like the difficulty is raised at all this release.

Honestly, if ratings aren't properly adjusted, for example guys like Lebron running around with an 88 3pt rating (better than Ray Allen btw), this system doesn't seem better than the current one. It really sounds worse. Putting everything on stick skills instead of ratings will show its ugly face once guys have learned their releases.

You'd rather every shot be 100% dice roll?

[eko718]

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Depending on all accounted for factors, yes.

I asked above but post guys you are concerned about on both the bad shooter easy release and good shooter difficult release.

For me, it's more of a concern of the mechanic itself. If the mechanic results in mastery of an animation taking precedence over the players ability then it will suck either way. Roster editors including myself often correct many shooting forms in the game, so I don't have any specific shooting forms in mind. And as suggested, I am hoping the shooting animation doesn't matter that much as it sounds like it may.

[JerzeyReign]

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You'd rather every shot be 100% dice roll?

The current system, ratings play a bigger role. In this system, it seems user input is the bigger factor.

How long before us hardcore 2Kers master the timing windows? I'm sure the timing windows will still be at the top of a player's jump. What role does the ratings of the player play in this current system? I'm sure this may be answered but I don't see it answered in Beluba's explanation.

Not to continue rambling and to give my answer to your question, yes, I would prefer the current system with a little more 50/50 balance. It seems like they went to go fix the 'why am I missing A+ Excellent shots' complaints. Valid complaint but trying to please the community sometimes opens up a different another level with a different devil - I enjoy knowing my devil, thats all.

[thedream2k13]

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For me, it's more of a concern of the mechanic itself. If the mechanic results in mastery of an animation taking precedence over the players ability then it will suck either way. Roster editors including myself often correct many shooting forms in the game, so I don't have any specific shooting forms in mind. And as suggested, I am hoping the shooting animation doesn't matter that much as it sounds like it may.

Shooting animation = shot release , yes it should matter

[eko718]

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Shooting animation = shot release , yes it should matter

Read the full trail of messages. I am not saying it shouldn't matter. I am saying the same thing JerzeyReign said above.

[eko718]

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Depending on all accounted for factors, yes.

I asked above but post guys you are concerned about on both the bad shooter easy release and good shooter difficult release.

Czar, can you try this? Choose a shooting animation you are comfortable with and apply it to both Steph Curry and Kendrick Perkins. What are the results when shooting with both of them? I am questioning the impact of ratings on this system.

[ForeverVersatile]

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Guy's, defensive and shot quality will affect the meter so you will not me able to master it as Beluba said. Add this with the new shot fatigue system and there will be no masteing. You get a nice clean look the user still has to make the shot within the meter window. So the chances of a user making a very late released shot will slim to none, meaning no more lucky stuff.