Madden 25 - PS4 FBGratings Roster Project

[azdawgpound]

Re: Madden 25 - PS4 FBGratings Roster Project

I have the NFC North, West, Saints, Bucs, Eagles, and Bills completed as well as the top 50 QB chart from FBG website. I should be able to finish the entire NFC by this week, but I'm contemplating whether or not to finish them since M15 is around the corner. The updates are from the re-vamped rosters from July 30th to now.

I have almost the whole afc side done I have raiders left then the afc south then only divisons are nfc west, north, south although some those teams are half completed because when I started I was going by postion so the qb's, rb's fb's are done on those teams.


I useally try to get atleast 2 teams done a day so by today if I was to get busy I'd prob get the whole afc side done.

[timsmooth503pa]

Re: Madden 25 - PS4 FBGratings Roster Project

I have almost the whole afc side done I have raiders left then the afc south then only divisons are nfc west, north, south although some those teams are half completed because when I started I was going by postion so the qb's, rb's fb's are done on those teams.


I useally try to get atleast 2 teams done a day so by today if I was to get busy I'd prob get the whole afc side done.

whats your psn username i downloaded cmhooe yesterday didnt see fbg ratings like on the website i thought about doing but working and the way the site updates it would be hard to keep up with the updates are yall going to start updating for m15 tuesday or this is only for m25

[azdawgpound]

Re: Madden 25 - PS4 FBGratings Roster Project

whats your psn username i downloaded cmhooe yesterday didnt see fbg ratings like on the website i thought about doing but working and the way the site updates it would be hard to keep up with the updates are yall going to start updating for m15 tuesday or this is only for m25

I haven't finished it yet I still have the nfc north, west, south to do.... and cm's are the old ones I don't think he's updated in awhile... and he only has the nfc east done on his.


also have to say with some of these the overall's can be way off...... don't know why I asked the guy from the fbg website he says it a glitch but it happens on more then one team.


this is only for 25 right now cm said he wanted to do it on 15 as we'll.

[Hooe]

Re: Madden 25 - PS4 FBGratings Roster Project

Yeah, I'm pretty much awaiting Madden NFL 15 at this point rather than proceeding with anything more in Madden 25.

The one thing I'm weighing in my mind right now is whether I want to spearhead the roster project just using the ratings straight from the web site (which use the full 0-100 scale for each rating and produces widely spread OVR ratings, regardless of any effect on CFM; this is the "equal interval" scale) or to scale up the data manually on my own as was done in May / June as to make the ratings useable in CFM (this is the "true mean" scale). I've got some ability to transform the data to that end and could produce a file for people to go off of, and I'm very much a CFM-oriented player in the first place which would increase my motivation to get the file done, haha.

Any thoughts on this? What would you all rather help produce?

[DCEBB2001]

Re: Madden 25 - PS4 FBGratings Roster Project

Yeah, I'm pretty much awaiting Madden NFL 15 at this point rather than proceeding with anything more in Madden 25.

The one thing I'm weighing in my mind right now is whether I want to spearhead the roster project just using the ratings straight from the web site (which use the full 0-100 scale for each rating and produces widely spread OVR ratings, regardless of any effect on CFM; this is the "equal interval" scale) or to scale up the data manually on my own as was done in May / June as to make the ratings useable in CFM (this is the "true mean" scale). I've got some ability to transform the data to that end and could produce a file for people to go off of, and I'm very much a CFM-oriented player in the first place which would increase my motivation to get the file done, haha.

Any thoughts on this? What would you all rather help produce?

I think you are misunderstanding both scales. The OVR ratings are just a byproduct of the way that the attributes are attained. So trying to get to a set OVR is actually the opposite of what both systems at FBG have done. The equal interval sets the highest to 99 and lowest to 0 for any attribute, regardless of position. The true mean system adds a third point that coincides with the average for any attribute, which skews the regression toward the mean and away from the line drawn by the maximum and minimum points. The OVRs are a simple result of the values of the attributes.

[Hooe]

Re: Madden 25 - PS4 FBGratings Roster Project

@DCEBB - I think my wording may have been imprecise. I understand that the OVR value is derivative from the other ratings, and that FBGratings rates the players based solely on their scouted skills and the OVR rating calculation is left to fall wherever it may. To the extent of football gameplay I don't really care about the OVR rating.

The reason I remain concerned with the OVR rating is because it's my strong impression that that rating along with player age is what drives the CPU roster management logic within Connected Franchise. The true mean ratings from your site from back in May (the ones I play tested for a good bit) resulted in higher in-game OVR ratings across the board with which to drive that logic compared to the equal interval set on your site now (which remains more true to your primary source data, I would assume), so my guess is that it'd be more likely to cooperate for the first few years of CFM at least before rookies disrupt the player pool but so much. In Madden 25, at least, it's my strong impression that rookies aren't rated the same way Donny Moore rates players just from eyeball observation, so it may cooperate better than expected.

To the extent that your site now provides only the equal interval ratings as that more truly maps with the scouting data you are provided, I was simply planning on transforming the mean and standard deviation for certain "intangible" ratings per-position (i.e. not SPD / STR / AGI / ACC) from what currently exists to that of Madden 15's default roster set. That doesn't appear to match how you generated the true mean ratings in the first place based on what you describe. However, absent the knowledge of how you create the true mean ratings, it was the best thing I could think of to do to raise the OVR rating to something the GM AI would cooperate while keeping individual player ratings true to your original source data (relatively speaking).

I'm plenty open to discussion on this, maybe you can tell me if my line of thinking for my set of concerns is misguided, if there's something better I can do, or if I'm fundamentally against the mission of FBGratings too much with what my aim is. Ideally I'd like to have something driven from your data which can be used in all modes of the game, but if that's not possible then I won't worry about it.

[BDaniels20]

Re: Madden 25 - PS4 FBGratings Roster Project

I may have misunderstood what you said CM but are you talking about taking his ratings and trying to scale them a little differently so that they will mesh better with the draft classes in a CFM?

For example, say the fastest player on his site is 90 Speed 95 Acc. (Just pulling #s for the example) But in the context of a CFM once draft classes start coming through that player would be nothing special speed wise which is why you want to try and scale them a little differently?

I may be way off was just a little confused by your post on the last page. But if what I was trying to get at is what you were talking about I think its a good idea if you were able to figure out a way to make it work

I didn't have 25 but I have read on here that the FBG ratings dont work well with CFM because of the Draft Classes. If they do transition fine and im way off let me know

[Hooe]

Re: Madden 25 - PS4 FBGratings Roster Project

@BDaniels - yeah, that's exactly what I'm getting at, though I wouldn't be focusing on the physical ratings as much as the position-specific ratings. The re-ratings provided by FBGratings really make the actual football gameplay much better IMO (based on my experience with using them in Madden 25), but using them in Connected Franchise is a nonstarter because rookies will quickly overtake current players on the depth chart and contract logic will very likely get screwy.

The differences in ratings philosophy is a secondary concern of mine to the core functionality of the mode, though if they are too divergent that's obviously going to be a problem as well. I'll probably want to see some Madden 15 generated draft classes before I know if this is possible to do effectively, but it's something I definitely want to look into.

[BDaniels20]

Re: Madden 25 - PS4 FBGratings Roster Project

Not much of a stats guy

But if you need help inputting into the game once you get everything set id be more than willing to help.

[Nequeo]

Re: Madden 25 - PS4 FBGratings Roster Project

would this roster update work with the european version of Madden (PS4)?

[Hooe]

Re: Madden 25 - PS4 FBGratings Roster Project

would this roster update work with the european version of Madden (PS4)?

I have absolutely no idea either way. Sorry

[Nequeo]

Re: Madden 25 - PS4 FBGratings Roster Project

i am asking because with Madden 13 on the PS3 i needed to have the US version to include the rosters from here.

[dte06]

Re: Madden 25 - PS4 FBGratings Roster Project

So what's the roster name I need to download and is everything up to date? Where can I find the draft classes. For ps4 thanks

[azdawgpound]

Re: Madden 25 - PS4 FBGratings Roster Project

So what's the roster name I need to download and is everything up to date? Where can I find the draft classes. For ps4 thanks

nobody really ever finished this roster I think I got the closet to finishing it but cm stopped after he did the nfc east.


I have all teams done except nfc west, half north, south and far as draft classes u cant edit them.

[Jmart26]

Re: Madden 25 - PS4 FBGratings Roster Project

Hi guys, Im not too experienced with professional level roster editing using the editor tools etc. I have spent tons of time on nba making legend rosters and then revamping the best madden legend rosters I can find. SO ive done tons and tons of searching and from what ive found it is or atleast was impossible to make legend rosters on the ps4 with madden 25 or 15 to be able to have real player portraits, real faces, and life like body types. Im currently back on my ps3 editing the legend rosters on madden 25 that have Culpepper,Favre,Carter,Deion etc with real faces,bodys,portaits. Is there anything even halfway close to this on either madden on ps4 yet? Is there anyway to transfer ps3 rosters to ps4 by USB with some editing and or slight modding/hacks?? either way could somebody post a link to the most recent editing tool. Thanks for taking the time to read, and thanks for the help in advance. also not sure if I need horizon or theother one that starts with a M? need a brief runthrough on that as well if you can. thanks