Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

[StefJoeHalt]

Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

Has any other website seen this ? Reason I ask is more eyes see it more likely it gets fixed (quicker)..CM Hooe is this even something that can be patched correctly?


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[Big FN Deal]

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What I mean is he is getting penalized twice for the same things which is interceptions. He shouldn't get penalized for throwing two interceptions and then get penalized again for throwing one more interception in the same game and have those penalties in confidence combine together when they're both penalizing for the same thing. It would be like getting penalized for giving up 10 points, then 20 points, then 30 points, then 40 points all in one game and having them all combine together when it should just be one penalty based on the end result.

I had a similar question when screenshots for confidence were first released and not sure how accurate the info was but it was speculated that the screen shot is showing the confidence effects for more than just that one week. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...30&postcount=3

If true, that would mean the "two interception -3" and "three interception -10" are two separate games, with one presumably being the last preseason game. Again, I'm not sure if that was ever confirmed to be the case or not, just remembered this from that earlier thread I linked.

[Sheba2011]

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What I mean is he is getting penalized twice for the same things which is interceptions. He shouldn't get penalized for throwing two interceptions and then get penalized again for throwing one more interception in the same game and have those penalties in confidence combine together when they're both penalizing for the same thing. It would be like getting penalized for giving up 10 points, then 20 points, then 30 points, then 40 points all in one game and having them all combine together when it should just be one penalty based on the end result.

Of course you should get penalized further. The more picks he throws in one game the more his confidence is going to drop. Just like if he throws 6 TD's and the team wins by 30 he is going have higher confidence than if he throws 1 TD and the team wins by 3.

[Sheba2011]

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I had a similar question when screenshots for confidence were first released and not sure how accurate the info was but it was speculated that the screen shot is showing the confidence effects for more than just that one week. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...30&postcount=3

If true, that would mean the "two interception -3" and "three interception -10" are two separate games, with one presumably being the last preseason game. Again, I'm not sure if that was ever confirmed to be the case or not, just remembered this from that earlier thread I linked.

There was something in one of the GC's threads that was similar and it was said at the time that it counts the last few games (including pre-season).

[DeuceDouglas]

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Of course you should get penalized further. The more picks he throws in one game the more his confidence is going to drop. Just like if he throws 6 TD's and the team wins by 30 he is going have higher confidence than if he throws 1 TD and the team wins by 3.

Yeah, I understand the concept of doing worse affecting your confidence and doing better inflating it. Again, what I'm saying is you shouldn't be getting penalized (or rewarded) twice for the same events. You already are getting penalized further for throwing more interceptions as it's minus ten and two picks is only minus three so why are they being combined?

To use your 6 TD example, you shouldn't get +1 for one TD, +2 for 2 TD's, +4 for 3 TD's, +7 for 4 TD's, +9 for 5 TD's and +15 for 6 TD's and then at the end of the week get +38 because it's counting all of those achievements independently. And just going off the screenshot it seems to be that this is what is happening as it says "Regular Season Week 1 Event Breakdown".

If they are from separate games, then that's fine. But if they are all from the same game then it needs to be tweaked IMO.

[T5063]

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Of course you should get penalized further. The more picks he throws in one game the more his confidence is going to drop. Just like if he throws 6 TD's and the team wins by 30 he is going have higher confidence than if he throws 1 TD and the team wins by 3.

I think what he means is that in that screenshot Stafford is getting penalized for the equivalent of throwing 5 interceptions when he actually threw 3. He gets a minus 3 for the first two then minus ten for the third one for a total of minus 13. Im assuming they were thrown in the same game and not in seperate games meaning that he threw 3 interceptions in one game ans not two in one game and then 3 in another game. Regardless, a minus 10 for 3 ints is a little excessive when he only got a minus 3 for 2 inta.

[Big FN Deal]

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There was something in one of the GC's threads that was similar and it was said at the time that it counts the last few games (including pre-season).

Yeah I linked my post instead of the thread, my bad. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2046466930

So presumably those are events and confidence effects from more than just Week 1.

[PainTrain43]

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It's your money, do what you please. But simulated stats have never been spot on. And good QBs getting cut and winding up in free agency happened in the last CFM of Madden 25. And there's always been issues with progression/regression. For years, it was the fact that older running backs never lost a step.

Again, I don't know how this ruins CFM because that suggests these issues were fine before Madden 15. They weren't.

This does need to be patched, but if you played and enjoyed M25, or 13, or 12, this really isn't much different than what you had before.

Im sorry, but this logic is beyond terrible.

First off, no, simmed stats are never perfect, but I dont think anyone is expecting perfection, just not completely broken to the point where its so bad that it hurts the immersion factor.

Secondly, while I didnt play 13 or 25 enough to know, 12 certainly had better stats than this, even if they were off. And 25, based on what Ive SEEN, had better stats than this...at least after patches.

Third, even if that is the case, we are just supposed to accept mediocrity because its always been that way? Its logic why that why EA is allowed to get away with stuff like this. Because some people just let it slide or accept it. The game should be improving every year...and that includes fixing bugs and issues that they know exist. They are damn well aware that stats are an issue, yet they continue to come out messed up.

Fourth, alot of people DONT enjoy CFM because of that....at least not more than a season or 2. Thats not the only reason, but it is A reason.

Bottom line....even if some can overlook this issue, it doesnt change the fact that EA continuously ignores the problem that tons of fans complain about, and they end up patching....yet still dont actually fix the issue until a month after the new game comes out.

No one is asking for perfection....but there is a pretty huge divide between perfection and just straight up crap like this is.

[CalhounLambeau]

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This is absolutely heartbreaking for me because I'm a offline franchise mode guy. I watched the video and it was literally the same crap I've witnessed the past few years. It's absurd. It's not a fluke. "It's one simulation." Give me a break. Where have you been? "Defense is emphsized now." Has nothing to do with it. The sim statistics are critically flawed. A patch? Really? You think they will patch this problem? It's been unchanged for years. They're just going to throw out a patch? Why? There's no patch.

Sent EA a tweet voicing my displeasure. Not purchasing. If you're an online player you have every reason to love this game. But guys like me, we're still scratching our heads wondering why these problems can't be easily fixed.

[KingV2k3]

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Well, if EA is listening:

Here's the "simple fix":

1) Tune the Sim Stat Engine

2) Give us the ability to toggle ON / OFF "Confidence" (which appears to be the MAIN source of reported issues)

You're Welcome!

[CalhounLambeau]

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Well, it's next gen now and they're still porting. They know this stuff is broken but until they get competition, they'll continue to tell us whatever they want and aren't held accountable.


EA is not getting another dime from me. These guys are crooks and liars

That Loomis fella over there at EA also promised the ability to be able to edit all players, teams, etc in the second year of connected careers. They're all about promises. If you're not for sure going to do it then don't tell everyone. It's a simple concept.

[CalhounLambeau]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

Well, if EA is listening:

Here's the "simple fix":

1) Tune the Sim Stat Engine

2) Give us the ability to toggle ON / OFF "Confidence" (which appears to be the MAIN source of reported issues)

You're Welcome!

It seems every year they make up some lame system to change the teams ability throughout the season. What makes a team play differently throughout a season? It's injury and schedule. There's no need for a "confidence" system. It's absurd.

[angels28]

I wrote this earlier. If you have 32 team control, you can make sure confidence is done for QB every time. Whatever hours you don't use, CPU will finish the rest

[KingV2k3]

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I wrote this earlier. If you have 32 team control, you can make sure confidence is done for QB every time. Whatever hours you don't use, CPU will finish the rest

I agree that you have a valid workaround here, but I prefer single team control so I can compete with the CPU in FA...

As a result, I'd rather just toggle this "work in progress" off...

[StefJoeHalt]

Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

Well, if EA is listening:

Here's the "simple fix":

1) Tune the Sim Stat Engine

2) Give us the ability to toggle ON / OFF "Confidence" (which appears to be the MAIN source of reported issues)

You're Welcome!

King u been around a long time.. I have had many convos with u in other forums, here (years before), and I value ur opinion..however I don't think this is the sole issue here..I do understand that stats effect "confidence" which effect progression/regression..but the stats them self are a problem alone...average NFL stats would keep "confidence" in check and would be a nice feature..my worry is their solution will be to somehow turn off "confidence" all together..or worse..try and fix the stats but completely destroy them some how..what I can't wrap my head around is why it's so hard..the sim stat engine is separate from ratings/quarter length/even level of play.. I thought it was a stat engine they said was easy to tweak..


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