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  • Hooe
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2002
    • 21555

    #526
    Re: Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

    Originally posted by Jm0ney2001
    Can you regain control of them for the next season?
    I don't see why not, just create a new character and take over that same AI head coach again.

    Probably worth testing but I'm fairly certain that nothing prevents you from taking control back from the AI at your discretion via creating new characters.

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    • Yeah...THAT Guy
      Once in a Lifetime Memory
      • Dec 2006
      • 17294

      #527
      Re: Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

      Originally posted by CM Hooe
      When creating coach characters for a 32-user offline CFM, you can set up most roster management tasks - fill roster, offseason free agent signing, depth chart reordering - to be performed by the CPU.

      The draft is likely going to be something you have to button through (though you can delegate individual picks to the CPU), and trades won't happen in a 32-user setting unless you force them to happen.

      What one might do is "retire" the created coach characters right as the offseason starts (after resetting their team scheme settings back to the default values) to give the AI full control of its roster management. Retiring an existing coach character does not remove him from the game; i.e. if my character is Jason Garrett and I retire him, Jason Garrett remains in the game save and remains the head coach of the Cowboys, but I lose control of him and can no longer perform any roster moves as the Cowboys.
      Are you saying you think we could theoretically set up their scheme and playbook, retire them, and then it will theoretically save the scheme and playbook to them while allowing us to go back to just controlling one team?

      I might have to try to test this out whenever I get home after work.
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      • Hooe
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2002
        • 21555

        #528
        Re: Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

        Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
        Are you saying you think we could theoretically set up their scheme and playbook, retire them, and then it will theoretically save the scheme and playbook to them while allowing us to go back to just controlling one team?

        I might have to try to test this out whenever I get home after work.
        I wasn't even thinking of saving the changes, actually, but that is absolutely worth a shot. Do let us know what you find!

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        • kiddlex
          Pro
          • Apr 2003
          • 628

          #529
          Re: Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

          I'm not smart enough to figure out the work around. Going to need a faq created for a 3 year old.

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          • WB1214
            Rookie
            • Mar 2010
            • 408

            #530
            Re: Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

            Just so you all know, I attempted to do this then went in and tried to play a game, and the games wouldn't come up but 1 out of every 10 times. It would get to the Loading data part right before the team selection comes up and just keep loading for several minutes. A few times it came right up, but I think it is having a problem with 32 users in there.

            I then restarted one as just one team and have had no issues with it.


            Didn't know if this had been put in here yet

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            • LorenzoDC
              MVP
              • Sep 2010
              • 1857

              #531
              Re: Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

              Has anyone laid out in one post the procedure for setting up this workaround, step by step, and how to maintain it?

              That would probably be worth a new thread, so that any updates could be made to the OP.

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              • Hooe
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2002
                • 21555

                #532
                Re: Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

                Originally posted by kiddlex
                I'm not smart enough to figure out the work around. Going to need a faq created for a 3 year old.
                The most straightforward version of the workaround so far, to recap, is to create 32 coach / owner characters within an offline Connected Franchise and, for each team you don't plan on controlling yourself, enable all the AI roster management helpers during the character creation process and then changing the teams's offensive scheme to "Vertical Offense".

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                • PacMan3000
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 1807

                  #533
                  Re: Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

                  I know they mentioned that at random times, the CPU you play against will wear their throwback unis. I wonder if you control all 32--even if you delegate responsibilities to the CPU--if that feature no longer works?

                  It would probably mean, too, that teams never move.
                  Last edited by PacMan3000; 08-26-2014, 10:05 AM.

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                  • JaymeeAwesome
                    Dynasty Guru
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 4152

                    #534
                    Re: Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

                    Originally posted by CM Hooe
                    I wasn't even thinking of saving the changes, actually, but that is absolutely worth a shot. Do let us know what you find!
                    I have noticed the playbook changes when you retire a coach.
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                    • Farmer joe
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 237

                      #535
                      Re: Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

                      Originally posted by CM Hooe
                      The most straightforward version of the workaround so far, to recap, is to create 32 coach / owner characters within an offline Connected Franchise and, for each team you don't plan on controlling yourself, enable all the AI roster management helpers during the character creation process and then changing the teams's offensive scheme to "Vertical Offense".
                      So that's the only change we have to make? I'm just hesitant to try it because I fear that every team will play exactly the same when I play vs them and that during offseason, a lot of teams will be signing/drafting players that are horrible fits for their teams. But, looks like it the only confirmed workaround so far.

                      I've been trying everything from turning off gameplan and progression, to even turning stupid little things like ball hawk and heat seeker off. None of that works though. I've done 5 sims so far and the top QB still only averages about 250-260 yards per game and only gets between 25-28 TDs. Meanwhile, I have seen at least 1 RB with 400 carries, 3-4 backs with over 350 carries, and anywhere from 10-12 backs with over 300 carries in each of the 5 sims I ran. Also, always at least 3 or 4 guys with 22-26 sacks.

                      Hopefully its just a tuning issue that can be fixed fairly easily. All it really seems like is that defensive players are too overpowered in simulated games, and that the running game is way too prevalent in the simulated games as well.
                      I know MLB The Show had an issue with stats similar to this last year and it was all fixed quick and easy.

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                      • LorenzoDC
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 1857

                        #536
                        Re: Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

                        Originally posted by CM Hooe
                        The most straightforward version of the workaround so far, to recap, is to create 32 coach / owner characters within an offline Connected Franchise and, for each team you don't plan on controlling yourself, enable all the AI roster management helpers during the character creation process and then changing the teams's offensive scheme to "Vertical Offense".
                        No, it's really more detailed than that. As angels posted this morning, the best looking stats came from:

                        Last night I ran 2 simulated seasons. I set all teams with "vertical offense"schemes and different playbooks

                        SD, NO, DENVER, ATL, CHI, PITT, GB, and DAL all had "pass balance"

                        SEATTLE, AZ, CINN, CAR, TENN, KC, PHIL, NE, IND, MIA, MINN, STL , JAX, BALT, HOUS, DET and WASH ran " balance"

                        NYJ, CLEV, TB, NYG, BUF, OAK, SF ran " run balance"
                        And then when you play a team using your primary CFM team, you have to manually change your opponent's playbook back to what it had been before you changed it for simulation purposes. That means you have to manually create a log of the schemes and playbooks BEFORE you change them. That's an important step.

                        Then there are the issues with the draft and how different users may want to handle them, as well as the off season and trades.

                        CM Hooe, I know you're a programmer. What I think we really need is a documented procedure in a main post, that can be updated as people test it more. Kind of like what people do with slider threads. See what I mean?

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                        • extremeskins04
                          That's top class!
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 3868

                          #537
                          Re: Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

                          Originally posted by LorenzoDC
                          What I think we really need is a documented procedure in a main post, that can be updated as people test it more. Kind of like what people do with slider threads. See what I mean?
                          That would be amazing.

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                          • JHeyBraves
                            Pro
                            • May 2011
                            • 895

                            #538
                            Re: Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

                            Originally posted by JaymeeAwesome
                            I have noticed the playbook changes when you retire a coach.
                            Can you change the playbook back when you regain control of the coach after the offseason?

                            Originally posted by Farmer joe
                            So that's the only change we have to make? I'm just hesitant to try it because I fear that every team will play exactly the same when I play vs them and that during offseason, a lot of teams will be signing/drafting players that are horrible fits for their teams. But, looks like it the only confirmed workaround so far.
                            I would think you could change the playbooks of all teams you control to ensure they play different. So have them set one way for simulation purposes, then go in and change your opponent before you play them and reset it after the game.

                            I always find the draft to be more head scratching than free agency (especially with respect to CPU drafting QB's to teams that don't need them). I think free agency would be a royal pain with all 32, but the draft would be worth controlling. I've thought about doing the first round or two for all teams, then delegating all CPU picks to the CPU. Buttoning through the draft would take a while but probably be worth it for your sim franchise.
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                            • Hooe
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 21555

                              #539
                              Re: Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

                              Originally posted by LorenzoDC
                              No, it's really more detailed than that. As angels posted this morning, the best looking stats came from:

                              And then when you play a team using your primary CFM team, you have to manually change your opponent's playbook back to what it had been before you changed it for simulation purposes. That means you have to manually create a log of the schemes and playbooks BEFORE you change them. That's an important step.

                              Then there are the issues with the draft and how different users may want to handle them, as well as the off season and trades.

                              CM Hooe, I know you're a programmer. What I think we really need is a documented procedure in a main post, that can be updated as people test it more. Kind of like what people do with slider threads. See what I mean?
                              I missed Angels' post from this morning, thanks for that update.

                              I don't want to edit the original post of this thread as it's a front page news post, but I'll talk to the other mods about getting a separate thread going with the workaround featured more prominently.

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                              • angels28
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 264

                                #540
                                Re: Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

                                Change all schemes to vertical offense. Change all playbooks to either " pass balance" , "balance" , or " run balance". When you play a certain team just put it back to " coach playbook". When playoffs start, change all schemes back to their original. So FA and draft is fine. When new season starts change all schemes back to "vertical"

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