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  • Yeah...THAT Guy
    Once in a Lifetime Memory
    • Dec 2006
    • 17294

    #1

    Trade Advice

    I figure this will probably come in handy once the regular season gets going, but before that, I have a potential trade that I'm pondering.

    In the league where I've already kept Rodgers and LeVeon Bell and have the 1st overall pick (the top two guys available are Matt Forte and Adrian Peterson, and it is NOT a PPR league), someone offered me LeSean McCoy (their keeper) for the first overall pick and a swap of our 7th round picks (I pick first in the 7th, he picks last, so I'd be moving all the way down to the bottom of round 7 basically to replace Forte or Peterson with LeSean McCoy.
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  • Jr.
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    • Feb 2003
    • 19171

    #2
    Re: Trade Advice

    I'd take that, personally. As great as AD is, I think McCoy is going to put up ridiculous numbers in his 2nd year in Chip's system. The swap of 7th rounders hurts a bit, but at that point you'll probably be looking to fill your bench anyway; and I think it's worth it to upgrade to McCoy.
    Last edited by Jr.; 08-25-2014, 11:41 AM.
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    • wwharton
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      • Aug 2002
      • 26949

      #3
      Re: Trade Advice

      I wouldn't do it. Peterson has as much of a chance at finishing at the top of the list as McCoy (especially in a nonPPR). I just don't see you getting enough back to theoretically move up one or two spots in the 1st round.

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      • woodjer
        MVP
        • Mar 2003
        • 1196

        #4
        Re: Trade Advice

        I had a longer reply written out but, basically, what wwharton said. If he wants to do it straight-up or go to like an 11th-round (at the earliest) swap, then I would consider it. Of course, it all depends on what you think McCoy is going to do.

        If you think McCoy is going to explode and want to do it, I can think of worse deals you could take. I'd have to be confident that he will be head-and-shoulders above those other guys though and I just don't think he will be. He may be the best player but I don't think he'll be miles ahead of Forte/AP.
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        • Yeah...THAT Guy
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          • Dec 2006
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          #5
          Re: Trade Advice

          Thanks for the help guys. I'm still a bit undecided on this. It's kinda ironic because I drafted McCoy last year and traded him for Forte and Roddy White (was really hoping White would turn it around, but Forte ended up outplaying McCoy for most of the rest of the season anyways), so it's kind of funny that I'm considering trading back for him now.

          One of the other things I'm considering in this trade is the fact that this guy doesn't have a 3rd, 8th, 13th, or 15th round pick, and he burned his 11th round pick by keeping Josh Gordon, so by making this trade and allowing him to move up in the 7th, it could make a huge difference for him considering his lack of picks.
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          • woodjer
            MVP
            • Mar 2003
            • 1196

            #6
            Re: Trade Advice

            Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
            Thanks for the help guys. I'm still a bit undecided on this. It's kinda ironic because I drafted McCoy last year and traded him for Forte and Roddy White (was really hoping White would turn it around, but Forte ended up outplaying McCoy for most of the rest of the season anyways), so it's kind of funny that I'm considering trading back for him now.

            One of the other things I'm considering in this trade is the fact that this guy doesn't have a 3rd, 8th, 13th, or 15th round pick, and he burned his 11th round pick by keeping Josh Gordon, so by making this trade and allowing him to move up in the 7th, it could make a huge difference for him considering his lack of picks.
            Given what you've said about his situation, I'd say that he's desperate. If you think McCoy will be better than Forte/AP, counter for a straight-up McCoy-#1 pick trade. Sounds like he needs this trade a heck of a lot more than you do. Personally, I would keep the pick.
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            • Yeah...THAT Guy
              Once in a Lifetime Memory
              • Dec 2006
              • 17294

              #7
              Re: Trade Advice

              I ended up trading for McCoy. I move up to the #1 pick in the 10th and 12th while he moves down in the 10th but moves up to 1 in the 11th

              Edit: I think he thought that it was the even rounds where I picked first, so he thought I was moving down in the 10th and 12th lol.
              Last edited by Yeah...THAT Guy; 08-29-2014, 07:35 AM.
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              • Jumpman232
                MVP
                • Apr 2010
                • 1146

                #8
                Re: Trade Advice

                Need help with a couple of trades. 1 point PPR

                Sent this trade early this morning, we discussed that it was most likely that he was going to take this.

                Other person:
                Brandon Marshall
                Doug Martin

                Me:
                Pierre Garcon
                DeMarco Murray
                Lamar Miller

                I've been trying to get rid of Garcon for the longest, but I feel that Murray is going to have a great year with the Cowboys saying that they are dedicated to the run game this year.

                Then another trade came up and this one is tough for me

                Other person:
                Vincent Jackson
                Keenan Allen
                Marshawn Lynch

                Me:
                Dez Bryant
                Shane Vereen

                Do I take both trades? Take just one and leave the other alone? Any help is appreciated
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                • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                  • Dec 2006
                  • 17294

                  #9
                  Re: Trade Advice

                  I'd definitely take Marshall and Doug. The second offer is much tougher IMO. Quantity vs. Quality, and Vereen is damn good for ppr as well.
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                  • Jumpman232
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 1146

                    #10
                    Re: Trade Advice

                    Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                    I'd definitely take Marshall and Doug. The second offer is much tougher IMO. Quantity vs. Quality, and Vereen is damn good for ppr as well.
                    That's what I'm thinking also. I'm going to see if I can switch Vereen out with someone else, with Blount gone his role is definitely going to increase. Thanks for the help!
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                    • Yeah...THAT Guy
                      Once in a Lifetime Memory
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 17294

                      #11
                      Re: Trade Advice

                      Originally posted by Jumpman232
                      That's what I'm thinking also. I'm going to see if I can switch Vereen out with someone else, with Blount gone his role is definitely going to increase. Thanks for the help!

                      No problem. I love DeMarco this year too, but Marshall is a ppr monster and Doug should be very good in ppr as well since Sims is out. Dougie will be used a ton in the Tampa offense this year.
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                      • Jumpman232
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 1146

                        #12
                        Re: Trade Advice

                        Well the dude involved in the Marshall trade changed his mind lol, kinda sucks cause I know I was going to come out the winner of that trade.

                        I ended up taking the Dez trade, but for some reason, he took Vereen out and said he wanted Randle and Lamar Miller (he's a Dolphins fan lol).

                        And since I couldn't get that Marshall trade, I ended up doing Garcon and Murray, for Jordy Nelson and Montee Ball.

                        So now my team looks like:

                        Aaron Rodgers
                        Vincent Jackson
                        Matt Forte
                        Montee Ball
                        Gronk
                        Kennan Allen at Flex
                        Kansas City Defense

                        Bench:
                        Shane Vereen
                        Andy Dalton
                        Dennis Pitta
                        Reggie Wayne
                        Brandin Cooks
                        Markus Wheaton
                        Marshawn Lynch

                        Already thinking of how I can use Lynch as trade bait, but as of right now I'm pretty content.
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                        • Yeah...THAT Guy
                          Once in a Lifetime Memory
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 17294

                          #13
                          Re: Trade Advice

                          Ok, so in one of my leagues, I need to free up a roster spot to get a kicker.

                          The bottom of my roster is made up of:
                          Kenny Britt
                          Ahmad Bradshaw (also have Trent Richardson)
                          Miles Austin
                          Shonn Greene (also have Sankey)
                          Andre Williams
                          Andy Dalton
                          Jermaine Kearse

                          I know this is going to sound silly, but I can't decide on who to cut because I have a sneaky suspicion that Kearse is going to be a solid sleeper this year for the Seahawks, and the other guys are all pretty solid.

                          What are your opinions on Andre Williams, Shonn Greene, and Miles Austin? I know a couple teams are interested in Greene and Austin, and while I like Williams, it sounds like the Giants aren't going to give him the ball much, at least at the beginning of the year.

                          I think my best option might be to try to swing a 2 for 1 trade, so something like Greene and Williams for Fred Jackson or Mark Ingram or something, which would free up a roster spot so that I can get a kicker. Or something like Miles Austin and Andre Williams for Jarrett Boykin.

                          Obviously Greene isn't a great player, but I'm hesitant to give him up since I have Sankey and Tennessee's O-Line should be stellar, so whoever gets the ball there could theoretically end up being a solid fantasy guy.
                          Last edited by Yeah...THAT Guy; 09-02-2014, 09:33 AM.
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                          • wwharton
                            *ll St*r
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 26949

                            #14
                            Re: Trade Advice

                            Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                            Ok, so in one of my leagues, I need to free up a roster spot to get a kicker.

                            The bottom of my roster is made up of:
                            Kenny Britt
                            Ahmad Bradshaw (also have Trent Richardson)
                            Miles Austin
                            Shonn Greene (also have Sankey)
                            Andre Williams
                            Andy Dalton
                            Jermaine Kearse

                            I know this is going to sound silly, but I can't decide on who to cut because I have a sneaky suspicion that Kearse is going to be a solid sleeper this year for the Seahawks, and the other guys are all pretty solid.

                            What are your opinions on Andre Williams, Shonn Greene, and Miles Austin? I know a couple teams are interested in Greene and Austin, and while I like Williams, it sounds like the Giants aren't going to give him the ball much, at least at the beginning of the year.

                            I think my best option might be to try to swing a 2 for 1 trade, so something like Greene and Williams for Fred Jackson or Mark Ingram or something, which would free up a roster spot so that I can get a kicker. Or something like Miles Austin and Andre Williams for Jarrett Boykin.

                            Obviously Greene isn't a great player, but I'm hesitant to give him up since I have Sankey and Tennessee's O-Line should be stellar, so whoever gets the ball there could theoretically end up being a solid fantasy guy.
                            You don't have much time. I personally wouldn't do any 2nd/3rd tier trades 2 days before the season starts. Might as well ride what I've got. Especially since whoever you trade with will need to drop another player to make it work. Unless there's a clear team that you can see doing that, I'd just go ahead and drop someone and grab your kicker.

                            As for who, I'd drop Williams. Tom C hates rookies early and Jennings is healthy and running well. By midseason all of that could (and very well may) change, and I doubt someone jumps to pick Williams up. If they do, they may end up dropping him again before he does anything... and unless Jennings gets hurt, it all doesn't matter anyway.

                            Everyone else you have makes sense as handcuffs, and the WRs do all have potential to outperform their ADP.

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                            • Yeah...THAT Guy
                              Once in a Lifetime Memory
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 17294

                              #15
                              Re: Trade Advice

                              Originally posted by wwharton
                              You don't have much time. I personally wouldn't do any 2nd/3rd tier trades 2 days before the season starts. Might as well ride what I've got. Especially since whoever you trade with will need to drop another player to make it work. Unless there's a clear team that you can see doing that, I'd just go ahead and drop someone and grab your kicker.

                              As for who, I'd drop Williams. Tom C hates rookies early and Jennings is healthy and running well. By midseason all of that could (and very well may) change, and I doubt someone jumps to pick Williams up. If they do, they may end up dropping him again before he does anything... and unless Jennings gets hurt, it all doesn't matter anyway.

                              Everyone else you have makes sense as handcuffs, and the WRs do all have potential to outperform their ADP.
                              Thanks. That definitely makes sense. I think I'll probably end up doing that unless this guy accepts an offer of Roddy White and the Trent/Bradshaw combo for Andre Johnson and Steven Jackson, but I'm starting to question whether that really does anything for me anyways.
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