Madden NFL 15 Online CFM Updates Arrive, Team Looking Into Simmed Stats & H2H Issues

[TrufflesEater]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Online CFM Updates Arrive, Team Looking Into Simmed Stats & H2H Iss

I'm not asking for a perfect game, I just want to be able to play the main mode of a game without it being horribly broken. I can't remeber a game where that wasn't possible outside of Madden.

"Horribly broken" means different things to different people. I think Madden's problems, bugs, failings, etc., are quite common in all sports games. The difference is the culture that has grown up around Madden. So many people feel entitled to trash the game relentlessly because some part of it doesn't conform their expectations or biases. Maybe it's part of the general football culture -- violent, unforgiving, gladiatorial. I think MLB The Show has an analogous problem for just about every "issue" that people froth about on these Madden forums, including your peeve, "inaccurate" simulation stats. People occasionally complain about it on there The Sow forums, but usually meekly and apologetically. Maybe baseball has a different way, a different culture, of fan appreciation and participation.

Really hope the sims stats get fixed enough for you to eventually enjoy the game.

[PMO]

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"Horribly broken" means different things to different people. I think Madden's problems, bugs, failings, etc., are quite common in all sports games. The difference is the culture that has grown up around Madden. So many people feel entitled to trash the game relentlessly because some part of it doesn't conform their expectations or biases. Maybe it's part of the general football culture -- violent, unforgiving, gladiatorial. I think MLB The Show has an analogous problem for just about every "issue" that people froth about on these Madden forums, including your peeve, "inaccurate" simulation stats. People occasionally complain about it on there The Sow forums, but usually meekly and apologetically. Maybe baseball has a different way, a different culture, of fan appreciation and participation.

Really hope the sims stats get fixed enough for you to eventually enjoy the game.

For someone who only plays offline solo careers, yes the SIM stats issue makes the game horribly broken, also I have now been reading the funds for signing players is broken. Unlike last year where you lost funds when giving players bonus money, now you lose the whole contract which makes 0 sense. I can not call this horribly broken to the game because you can chose to play as a coach. But Owner Mode is horribly broken, not the game

[Knelltone]

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"Horribly broken" means different things to different people. I think Madden's problems, bugs, failings, etc., are quite common in all sports games. The difference is the culture that has grown up around Madden. So many people feel entitled to trash the game relentlessly because some part of it doesn't conform their expectations or biases. Maybe it's part of the general football culture -- violent, unforgiving, gladiatorial. I think MLB The Show has an analogous problem for just about every "issue" that people froth about on these Madden forums, including your peeve, "inaccurate" simulation stats. People occasionally complain about it on there The Sow forums, but usually meekly and apologetically. Maybe baseball has a different way, a different culture, of fan appreciation and participation.

Really hope the sims stats get fixed enough for you to eventually enjoy the game.

You can't play owner mode. You can't enjoy a realistic CFM for more than a couple seasons(big ben 3rd stringer, matt ryan ect.). Online CFM has major bugs upon release. This has nothing to do with a culture of complainers, these game modes are ****ed.

I would appreciate getting a game that did what it is advertised to do. If youre gunna sell me on CFM don't **** around with me. If you can do it, put it in the game and make it work the way you said it will. If you can't, dont put it in the freakin game. I'll save money and not ridicule you publicly.

[bkrich83]

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You can't play owner mode. You can't enjoy a realistic CFM for more than a couple seasons(big ben 3rd stringer, matt ryan ect.). Online CFM has major bugs upon release. This has nothing to do with a culture of complainers, these game modes are ****ed.

I would appreciate getting a game that did what it is advertised to do. If youre gunna sell me on CFM don't **** around with me. If you can do it, put it in the game and make it work the way you said it will. If you can't, dont put it in the freakin game. I'll save money and not ridicule you publicly.

This isn't the place to ridicule devs publicly, and is actually counter productive.

[chadex]

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Hopefully the issues with team funds in Owner Mode are addressed at some point, but I'm not holding my breath.

I vote this for the next thing to be fixed. Really want to play Owner Mode but the amount of money to given to start out with and the dynamics of making money and how it just gets you into a hole of not being able to resign anyone sucks.

[Knelltone]

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This isn't the place to ridicule devs publicly, and is actually counter productive.

Then where do I go? EA's official forum? The mods their are volunteers who know nothing. Should i go to twitter and voice my complaints? Wait.. people do that and are mostly ignored as well. Should i post on my FB and tell all my friends how much I think CFM sucks? Wait, the devs aren't my friends. The point is, the devs don't interact with the people who purchase the game. This is as good a place as any.

and how is it counter productive? By voicing my complaints do I convince EA to ignore the issues? Probs not. More than anything us "complainers" put pressure on the DEV's to get it right. When word gets out people aren't buying the game until issues are resolved is the best way to get attention. Our complaints are not without constructive criticism. We aren't saying **** madden. We are telling them how they could persuade us to buy the game.

[PMO]

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I vote this for the next thing to be fixed. Really want to play Owner Mode but the amount of money to given to start out with and the dynamics of making money and how it just gets you into a hole of not being able to resign anyone sucks.

I agree 100% but at least we can do coach mode, SIM stats are just killin it all lol

[Shon 23]

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Then where do I go? EA's official forum? The mods their are volunteers who know nothing. Should i go to twitter and voice my complaints? Wait.. people do that and are mostly ignored as well. Should i post on my FB and tell all my friends how much I think CFM sucks? Wait, the devs aren't my friends. The point is, the devs don't interact with the people who purchase the game. This is as good a place as any.

and how is it counter productive? By voicing my complaints do I convince EA to ignore the issues? Probs not. More than anything us "complainers" put pressure on the DEV's to get it right. When word gets out people aren't buying the game until issues are resolved is the best way to get attention. Our complaints are not without constructive criticism. We aren't saying **** madden. We are telling them how they could persuade us to buy the game.

I agree with all of this, and all of your points are valid.

This is THE forum for Madden gaming and M15 DOES have game-breaking bugs right now. If this guy can't come on here, point out the issues, then get on the devs a bit putting out this buggy mess, then where do we go to where someone might listen? If there is a place the devs might lurk, it would surely be here, right? Or are they just popping their corks and looking at the new numbers in their bank accounts, for another year of selling a lot of copies of Madden.

I've been on this forum for over 10 years now (actually posted more in the old Madden Mania days), I purchased the game already, and I'm mainly an offline CFM player, but the sim stats are broken enough that I will not touch the mode until it is fixed. I'm stuck playing Play Now games, and I've actually already found a good set of sliders to start a fun offline CFM. Take note, look at the current OS poll that is up, the majority which is at 69% play offline CFM.. now just expand that country-wide and you see who this affects most.

More power to the people that are playing their offline CFM now, or chose to use the "workaround," but I want a properly functioning "sim" experience before I start mine. And no one mention that sim stats have always been broken, even in M25 the QBs and RBs had pretty good numbers, and you didn't see players with 27 sacks on the season either. It was satisfactory enough for me.

So, all in all, hopefully public pressure and "getting on" the devs juuust might prompt for a patch sooner rather than later. It is not like they are working with a skeleton crew and don't have massive resources backing them up. Fix these problems already, so people can purchase the game or actually get started playing the game. M15 overall on the field is fun as hell this year, in my opinion, it would be a shame if these game-breaking bugs diminished that for too long. It IS nice to hear from them on the problems though, but offline CFM needs to be fixed ASAP as well.

[Game_time85]

I thought they fixed the ability to but power moves for the olb's and mlb's? I still can't buy the upgrades for my players in my offline franchise

[bkrich83]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Online CFM Updates Arrive, Team Looking Into Simmed Stats & H2H Iss

Then where do I go? EA's official forum? The mods their are volunteers who know nothing. Should i go to twitter and voice my complaints? Wait.. people do that and are mostly ignored as well. Should i post on my FB and tell all my friends how much I think CFM sucks? Wait, the devs aren't my friends. The point is, the devs don't interact with the people who purchase the game. This is as good a place as any.

and how is it counter productive? By voicing my complaints do I convince EA to ignore the issues? Probs not. More than anything us "complainers" put pressure on the DEV's to get it right. When word gets out people aren't buying the game until issues are resolved is the best way to get attention. Our complaints are not without constructive criticism. We aren't saying **** madden. We are telling them how they could persuade us to buy the game.

Where did I say anything about voicing complaints?

Clearly my post was lost on you. No sweat off my back, you're the Mods problem now.

[Knelltone]

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Where did I say anything about voicing complaints?

Clearly my post was lost on you. No sweat off my back, you're the Mods problem now.

Ridiculing(look up the definition if you need to) DEVs and voicing complaints are synonymous in this context.

This is because many of our complaints have been repetitive. but *shrug* some people lack the capacity/ interest to understand.

[bkrich83]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Online CFM Updates Arrive, Team Looking Into Simmed Stats & H2H Iss

Ridiculing(look up the definition if you need to) DEVs and voicing complaints are synonymous in this context.

This is because many of our complaints have been repetitive. but *shrug* some people lack the capacity/ interest to understand.

No, not synonymous at all. However it was a good backtrack attempt, topped off with a poor attempt to take a shot at my intelligence to further deflect from your proverbial swing and miss.

Unfortunately not a very original move on your part. We've seen this 10000 times, mostly by PBU's like yourself.

[24]

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This isn't the place to ridicule devs publicly, and is actually counter productive.

To add on to this, no one should ridicule the Devs period.

I'm pissed about the Sim Stats situation myself but tearing the Devs to pieces solves nothing. The issue has been pointed out and recognized by EA. Now we play the waiting game, things like this take time. For the people complaining that the game shouldn't have shipped with this issue, you're partially right but no Dev team is perfect. Every game has issues.

[bkrich83]

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To add on to this, no one should ridicule the Devs period.

I'm pissed about the Sim Stats situation myself but tearing the Devs to pieces solves nothing. The issue has been pointed out and recognized by EA. Now we play the waiting game, things like this take time. For the people complaining that the game shouldn't have shipped with this issue, you're partially right but no Dev team is perfect. Every game has issues.

Exactly. Voice your concerns, no one has an issue with that, as long as it's constructive.

[ggunnerr]

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My post that was locked, I assume this is the place to post this??


Last year was the first year I didn't buy Madden since Madden 93. After getting my hands on for the 6 hour preview I was pretty pumped for this years iteration. However thanks to those on these forums I have been able to see that Online CFM is essentially broken at this point still. Even with the supposed "fix" to head to head games, I see the games are "desyncing" due to various reasons, and stats sims etc. are a mess too. Games are supposed to be fun when we buy them, not a minefield to wade thru in hopes you don't step on a feature you expect to be fun and work, then to find out it doesn't. Waiting on a "fix", "patch", for days, weeks, months, is not what I consider fun when I buy a game.

As a result I still have not purchased M15 and will not until these problems are fixed. This is vintage EA when you look at their recent history, Diablo, Sims, Battlefield 4, etc. They continually release products that aren't finished and rely on patches for every release (LIVE 14 is a great example of this too).

I wonder if the real reason for the limited 6 hour preview was to hide these glaring bugs, as many did not want to waste the 6 hours doing things like CFM. Also of note Madden already had their "EA Madden Problems Page" ready to go from day 1. If you have a web page set up to talk about all your problems your addressing from day 1, maybe you should delay the game?? (Battlefield Hardline anyone?) If that isn't a glaring admission by them knowing full well they were releasing an unfinished product that would rely on fix, after fix, after patch, after patch, I don't know what is?