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  • kcsam
    Pro
    • Feb 2011
    • 676

    #1

    M12 vs M25

    I haven't purchased Madden since '12 and haven't played it in a long while. Now that M15's been officially released, M25 can be had for the cheap. I haven't played anything beyond M12, so my question is this: Is M25 worth the upgrade price from M12? I specifically play coach mode, so the actual "controlling" of the players aspect is not necessarily important to me since I'll only be calling plays and kicking - if that happens to matter.

    Thanks for the advice in advance.
  • lisinas
    MVP
    • Jan 2010
    • 1218

    #2
    Re: M12 vs M25

    Short answer : Yes its worth it .
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    • gr18
      MVP
      • Sep 2007
      • 2324

      #3
      Re: M12 vs M25

      If you're playing coach mode,I'm not sure.On the field gameplay may be a little better in most instances but the game is alot buggier than '12 for franchise.There are lengthy threads about players retiring early and disappearing from franchise without notice.Players that should be far from retiring like Matt Stafford for example. Dealing with Xp is not for everyones taste either.I think they improved that some this year.You can't edit like you can in '12 if you enjoy that.

      I wouldn't think it's worth it unless you don't mind just giving it a try because I noticed it was only around $22 used at Gamestop the other day and the Target by me had it for $20 new.

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      • kcsam
        Pro
        • Feb 2011
        • 676

        #4
        Re: M12 vs M25

        Wow, I never heard about the retirements and players just randomly disappearing. You'd think that would've been corrected in a patch. I don't really do any player editing, so that wouldn't be an issue. Never dealt with the XP so not sure what it's all about. I know in M12 you pretty much had to do 32 team control because the AI was not too smart. And the whole thing with the made up UDFA really screwed things up when the cpu would cut established players for a guy with a potential of 85 who became a 55 when the season began.

        I'm just looking for a realistic franchise experience and with M12 it took so much user intervention to resemble anything remotely real. I'm a little turned off by players disappearing for no reason though.

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        • gr18
          MVP
          • Sep 2007
          • 2324

          #5
          Re: M12 vs M25

          Originally posted by kcsam
          Wow, I never heard about the retirements and players just randomly disappearing. You'd think that would've been corrected in a patch. I don't really do any player editing, so that wouldn't be an issue. Never dealt with the XP so not sure what it's all about. I know in M12 you pretty much had to do 32 team control because the AI was not too smart. And the whole thing with the made up UDFA really screwed things up when the cpu would cut established players for a guy with a potential of 85 who became a 55 when the season began.

          I'm just looking for a realistic franchise experience and with M12 it took so much user intervention to resemble anything remotely real. I'm a little turned off by players disappearing for no reason though.
          I know what you mean by the necessary task of 32 team control because of those things in '12.One of the threads for disappearing players is on page 3 right now about half way down under 'Ever had a player disappear'.

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          • kcsam
            Pro
            • Feb 2011
            • 676

            #6
            Re: M12 vs M25

            Thanks for that. What a mess that sounds like. I can't believe that was never patched. That sucks, now I'm not sure I want to even move onto M25. I was getting excited about the upgrade from '12, but with players disappearing for no apparent reason I'm having 2nd thought. Why does EA make it so hard to find a quality sim football game?!

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            • hbgoo1975
              Rookie
              • Aug 2014
              • 41

              #7
              Re: M12 vs M25

              I don't think the last-gen games will be patched.

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              • camo
                Pro
                • Apr 2012
                • 603

                #8
                Re: M12 vs M25

                Players don't disappear. They will retire at different points in the off-season. If theyare at the very bottom of the free agent list for position after a whole off season some may be dropped due to the amount of new players after the draft. This issue seems to be getting blown out of proportion. I have played 30 seasons of ccm on m25 and it's never been an issue. Anyone reasonably of note will show up in the transaction log. If a random 50 overall d.e. getting dropped from the free agent pool after being unemployed for a whole offseason is a game breaker then you'll never have fun with any Madden. M25 was a lot of fun. M15 is way better then m25, do yourself a favour and get m15.
                Last edited by camo; 08-31-2014, 02:37 PM.

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                • PeoplesChampGB
                  All Star
                  • May 2012
                  • 6005

                  #9
                  Re: M12 vs M25

                  Originally posted by camo
                  Players don't disappear. They will retire at different points in the off-season. If theyare at the very bottom of the free agent list for position after a whole off season some may be dropped due to the amount of new players after the draft. This issue seems to be getting blown out of proportion. I have played 30 seasons of ccm on m25 and it's never been an issue. Anyone reasonably of note will show up in the transaction log. If a random 50 overall d.e. getting dropped from the free agent pool after being unemployed for a whole offseason is a game breaker then you'll never have fun with any Madden. M25 was a lot of fun. M15 is way better then m25, do yourself a favour and get m15.
                  Ive heard about Romo disappearing after one season. That shouldn't happen.
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                  • kcsam
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 676

                    #10
                    Re: M12 vs M25

                    I've heard the same about Romo, but I wonder if the transactions log wasn't checked? I can't really comment since I've never played 25. Just trying to decide if it's worth the upgrade from 12.

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                    • xCAGEx
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 499

                      #11
                      Re: M12 vs M25

                      Originally posted by kcsam
                      I've heard the same about Romo, but I wonder if the transactions log wasn't checked? I can't really comment since I've never played 25. Just trying to decide if it's worth the upgrade from 12.

                      I have a roster updated for Madden 12 that is based off of Madden 15 roster.
                      I ported it over plus updated all the coaches and playboy books. if you would like to give it a go I would be more then happy to share. I've been sharing it with the guys on the Head Coach forum.
                      I haven't posted it on the roster page but will send you a link to the file

                      Just let me know

                      Thanks, Cage

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                      • kcsam
                        Pro
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 676

                        #12
                        Re: M12 vs M25

                        Originally posted by xCAGEx
                        I have a roster updated for Madden 12 that is based off of Madden 15 roster.
                        I ported it over plus updated all the coaches and playboy books. if you would like to give it a go I would be more then happy to share. I've been sharing it with the guys on the Head Coach forum.
                        I haven't posted it on the roster page but will send you a link to the file

                        Just let me know

                        Thanks, Cage
                        Sure, thanks. I'd really appreciate it. I'm really having the football itch, so getting back to to M12 doesn't sound half bad. Is it a franchise file? I know when I played with ported rosters in the past the announcers called most of the defenders by the wrong names. Is this still an issue? And lastly, did you ever try out M25? I'm guessing you're not a proponent since you're still rolling with with '12.

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                        • xCAGEx
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 499

                          #13
                          Re: M12 vs M25

                          Originally posted by kcsam
                          Sure, thanks. I'd really appreciate it. I'm really having the football itch, so getting back to to M12 doesn't sound half bad. Is it a franchise file? I know when I played with ported rosters in the past the announcers called most of the defenders by the wrong names. Is this still an issue? And lastly, did you ever try out M25? I'm guessing you're not a proponent since you're still rolling with with '12.

                          I can do one of two things.
                          I can start a career with the team of your choice or one with all teams selected.
                          It is a franchise file.
                          Announcers do call correct names
                          I do have 25 and just bought 15
                          I play 12 because I love playing GM mode.
                          I love taking control of my team and then hiring the coaches, signing players and doing the draft.
                          I then put it Spector mode and watch the team I built play.
                          It may just be me but I find the graphics in 12 to be a little cleaner and sharper. But again it's probably just me.

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                          • sheredia
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 2351

                            #14
                            Re: M12 vs M25

                            one upside to M25 is roster share.....there are some pretty good community rosters to be had out there. classic team rosters, prior year rosters (2010, ect.) and up to date rosters for this season.

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                            • kcsam
                              Pro
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 676

                              #15
                              Re: M12 vs M25

                              Originally posted by xCAGEx
                              I can do one of two things.
                              I can start a career with the team of your choice or one with all teams selected.
                              It is a franchise file.
                              Announcers do call correct names
                              I do have 25 and just bought 15
                              I play 12 because I love playing GM mode.
                              I love taking control of my team and then hiring the coaches, signing players and doing the draft.
                              I then put it Spector mode and watch the team I built play.
                              It may just be me but I find the graphics in 12 to be a little cleaner and sharper. But again it's probably just me.
                              The way you play is totally in line with what I do. In the past I've played coach mode, but it seems even then the game didn't really play "fair". I'm more interested in cpu vs. cpu mode going forward. Question: Do you control all 32 teams in your franchise to keep things in line and not have all the fake created UDFA taking up roster spots of guys with better ratings? Just trying to decide if 32 teams control is worth all the intervention.

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