Playing the pass?

[SolidSquid]

Can anyone give me any tips on playing the pass? No matter what i call I seem to get beat in the shallow middle by ins and slants, or outside by curls and outs.

What coverages are good for stopping what? How should I make coverage adjustments?

[FindingQuiet]

Re: Playing the pass?

Did you go through the skills trainer at all?

[SolidSquid]

Re: Playing the pass?

Did you go through the skills trainer at all?

A little bit guess I'll have to dig deeper. Thanks

[FindingQuiet]

Re: Playing the pass?

There's a lot of newness to this version of Madden. I tried jumping in and got it handed to me.

The skills trainer isn't the basic tool it once was. You'll have a much better understanding of offense and defense after going through.

[SolidSquid]

Re: Playing the pass?

Cool are there specific strategy drills for defense like there are offense? I know offense has coverage recognition and all that I'm looking for something like that on defense, not just how to use the new tackle mechanics and rush moves.

[FindingQuiet]

Re: Playing the pass?

No, not outside of the tackling drills.

But for the drills where it tells you how to beat a defense, you can reverse the language to know how that defense protects the best. If that makes sense.

I'm sure there's also some videos out there for playing defense as well. I know EA was specifically putting videos out before release, I just don't know if they were defense focused.

[Jm0ney2001]

Re: Playing the pass?

Defense is extremely difficult, just like the the real nfl. Offenses have all the tools to succeed. I play on all madden default and the best defense is a good offense. As soon as you dont score in a few drives the game will get out of hand. I try my best to get in a third and long situation and blitz or sit back and defend the sticks. I've played about 7 games on am default and finally won my first game today. This game has a steep learning curve

[mmorg]

Re: Playing the pass?

http://smartfootball.com/passing/attacking-coverages-in-the-passing-game

That will give you a basic primer on what beats what. Other than that you can use coverage audibles to help shade your receivers inside, outside, underneath, or over the top. Drop linemen into hook zones to cover the very short over the middle routes. Bluff a blitz with a LB in a hook route and they'll be right there to pick off those slants and 5 yards ins. There are tons of things you can do in Madden this year to shut down something if you know it's coming.

[SolidSquid]

Re: Playing the pass?

http://smartfootball.com/passing/att...e-passing-game

That will give you a basic primer on what beats what. Other than that you can use coverage audibles to help shade your receivers inside, outside, underneath, or over the top. Drop linemen into hook zones to cover the very short over the middle routes. Bluff a blitz with a LB in a hook route and they'll be right there to pick off those slants and 5 yards ins. There are tons of things you can do in Madden this year to shut down something if you know it's coming.

Thanks man! About coverage adjustments though are they only for the safeties or all my defenders. Say I shade inside in cover 2 man under will my cbs and safeties play inside or just my safeties? If I call underneath in cover 3 do all my defenders play more shallow or only the safeties?

[mmorg]

Re: Playing the pass?

I am under the impression that it will influence the leverage that your players in coverage will have. So if you shade outside your defenders that happen to be defending outside routes will gain a boost in their coverage ability. If you shade outside and the receiver runs an inside route there will be a reduction in their coverage ability. That's what I've seen from playing so far.

[Biizz713]

Re: Playing the pass?

I don't think those adjustments actually work. I played a guy online who ran all slants for about 80% of his offensive snaps and it was working. I tried every zone or man D (man under, cover 1, cover 2, cover 2 sink, cover 3, cover 4, cover 6... etc etc I tried everything) with shade inside or shade underneath and nothing worked.

if he just waited long enough eventually one of the 2 receivers running slants would come open. After he did it a few times I started to user one side, and he would just throw it to the other side of the field. he only scored 1 TD on me, I was able to pretty much lock it down in the red zone and I won the game but he was easily able to dink and dunk his way down the field even though I knew exactly what he was doing.

[mmorg]

Re: Playing the pass?

If he's just waiting you out like you said you need to apply more pressure on him and force him to throw earlier or take the sack.

[Biizz713]

Re: Playing the pass?

If he's just waiting you out like you said you need to apply more pressure on him and force him to throw earlier or take the sack.

it's a no win situation. I tried blitzing and user rushing, when I did that the slants would just be open earlier. I think the longer this game is out the more people will realize all the "defense is back" stuff was just a gimmick.

[mmorg]

Re: Playing the pass?

it's a no win situation. I tried blitzing and user rushing, when I did that the slants would just be open earlier. I think the longer this game is out the more people will realize all the "defense is back" stuff was just a gimmick.

I haven't had any problems shutting down people who use the same plays over and over again. There are plenty of weapons you have on defense to counter act one-dimensional offenses. You were probably blitzing linebackers who should be covering the middle of the field who you have to depend on to shut down the slants if they are in zone coverage. You could have easily done overload or corner blitzes which are very effective this year.

[Biizz713]

Re: Playing the pass?

I haven't had any problems shutting down people who use the same plays over and over again. There are plenty of weapons you have on defense to counter act one-dimensional offenses. You were probably blitzing linebackers who should be covering the middle of the field who you have to depend on to shut down the slants if they are in zone coverage. You could have easily done overload or corner blitzes which are very effective this year.

that makes sense, lets overload blitz against slant routes. that definitely won't end up in long touchdowns. and if I corner blitz he definitely won't just immediately complete the pass to the side i'm blitzing from...

the fact is they still have a lot of work to do. "Madden logic" still overpowers football logic.