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  • maafla1
    Banned
    • Jan 2006
    • 49

    #16
    Ditch the soundtrack! Why is it even necessary? Throw the resources into making a much more realistic/believable commentary system.

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    • rudyjuly2
      Cade Cunningham
      • Aug 2002
      • 14805

      #17
      I like Simms and Nantz. Some comments are incorrect but they work well together and I prefer having a real booth with commentary recorded together than the lazy way of recording everything separately and splicing them together.

      There is no way the announcing is an F-. While I can understand some people not liking certain commentators this is by far the best announcing crew in the history of Madden. Granted that doesn't mean much since Madden and Company were horribly repetitive, the radio guy was a bad decision and Gus Johnson sucked. The comments could be improved but I'd give these guys solid B IMO.

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      • Big FN Deal
        Banned
        • Aug 2011
        • 6073

        #18
        Re: Madden NFL 15: Presentation is One Step Forward, Four Steps Back

        I'm a big presentation guy and very unforgiving when it comes to elements that have been done better in the past, especially when better seems to be as simple as copying real life as closely as possible.

        With the exception of crowd reaction and crowd audio, all the other elements to make presentation stellar in Madden have already been done in other games, including some past Maddens. I won't bother naming names of specific games but suffice to say, other games have set the bar for various presentation elements in their given sports title, by either copying what is done in real life and/or providing the ability for User customization.

        So if Madden would simply do that and stop any form of innovation or creative license in the presentation dept, at least until they have reached that bar, presentation could finally be checked off the overhaul list and just incrementally built on year over year.

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        • MHammer113
          Rookie
          • Oct 2008
          • 410

          #19
          My biggest gripe has always been the lack of emotion. This is exactly what is missing from the crowd and broadcasters. The Super Bowl shouldn't feel like a preseason game. The crowd can easily be a big part of the fix but I would love to see several broadcasting teams. I want to see fox, cbs, nbc, and nfl network. This would go a great distance to fixing this. Different graphics and teams will make games feel unique. NCAA basketball 10 is still the only game to utilize two broadcasting teams and graphic overlays. Makes this happen again...it's 2014 for gods sake.
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          • zizoux
            Rookie
            • Mar 2007
            • 466

            #20
            Re: Madden NFL 15: Presentation is One Step Forward, Four Steps Back

            Originally posted by Mos1ted
            My biggest issue with the presentation (besides the commentary) is the replays. There is no variety at all. It reminds me of the NCAA series with too many tight shots. At the very least, they should replay the play from the traditional broadcast angle, then cut to the tight shots when they play it again, just like on TV.
            Yes. I've never seen a replay from the broadcast angle or any zoomed out camera in 15. Replays are decent play by play but the highlights of the game are kind of rushed. You can't see how the plays developed. This is bad because you save them and watch them a week later and all you see is a player is catching, running etc. If EA could patch in some different replay angles it would be huge for me.

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            • Hooe
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2002
              • 21528

              #21
              Re: Madden NFL 15: Presentation is One Step Forward, Four Steps Back

              "Four steps back" strikes me as a helluva exaggeration when this is easily the best total-package presentation suite that Madden has ever had.

              The content of the article which is far more even-handed doesn't reflect the title sentiment at all, and IMO it's not fair to what the game has accomplished this year with respect to presentation. It really took a significant leap in every area except commentary (which is now actively holding back the audio experience of the game).
              Last edited by Hooe; 08-31-2014, 02:43 PM.

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              • Cardot
                I'm not on InstantFace.
                • Feb 2003
                • 6168

                #22
                Re: Madden NFL 15: Presentation is One Step Forward, Four Steps Back

                Originally posted by MHammer113
                My biggest gripe has always been the lack of emotion. This is exactly what is missing from the crowd and broadcasters.
                Maybe you missed the Gus Johnson editions. He would go crazy for a 5 yard dive up the middle.

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                • Da-Man
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 625

                  #23
                  Re: Madden NFL 15: Presentation is One Step Forward, Four Steps Back

                  Originally posted by KennyJ1976
                  When the commentary is repeating lines and you've only played two games, it's time for a complete overhaul. I agree, just use voice actors. Maybe 3 different crews for 3 different fictional networks. Another thing that irks me is why are the cutscene graphics still better than the actual gameplay graphics, even when zoomed in at the same distance? I can't be the only one who notices that. I thought we left that with last gen.
                  You are correct, the graphics in game are worse than the replays and cutscenes.

                  If you play from the zoomed cam offense or defense and look at the players shoes and pants you can actually see the polygons almost like a ps1 game but when it goes to replay or cutscene everything is smoothed out.

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                  • Fist Of Kings
                    Pro
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 793

                    #24
                    EA has to know how bad the commentary has been in both Madden and NCAA games throughout the years. It feels as if they're intentionally leaving it as it is for now only to list this as an 'improvement' in future titles. I don't remember the games with Madden/Summerall/Michaels having such bad commentary, so it can't be a resources issue.

                    It's frustrating how I see how great other sports games are, while we football fans have to settle for a piece here, a yearly gimmick there, or a pointless change just for the sake of change like this year's kicking mechanic.

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                    • Cusefan
                      Earlwolfx on XBL
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 9826

                      #25
                      Re: Madden NFL 15: Presentation is One Step Forward, Four Steps Back

                      Going to agree that the Commentary is bad but not even close to being a game breaking issue. The presentation this year really adds to the immersion, I still have moments where I get lost in a great game that is literally edge of your seat excitement.

                      I think more if they stay the course presentation wise then I can only imagine how great it will be next year. Add more lines for the commentary and refine what they have. I think the biggest addition they could do is adding another announcing crew, that would be huge.
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                      • TheBleedingRed21
                        Game Dev
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 5067

                        #26
                        Re: Madden NFL 15: Presentation is One Step Forward, Four Steps Back

                        I am sorry but to say one step forward and FOUR steps backwards is absolutely false. The presentation like CBS is SO SO SO much more pleasant to look at it and I actually look forward to seeing them.

                        Commentary always has been terrible, the team gets docked because it still is terrible? I do not understand the though process.

                        Try two steps forward, one step back. That would be my view. Meaning one step forward with crappy commentary still but a hell of a lot better presentation package.
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                        • Deflo_
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 401

                          #27
                          Re: Madden NFL 15: Presentation is One Step Forward, Four Steps Back

                          Have bought every madden since '99. This is the best in the series. It's leaps and bounds better than every version on the last gen consoles I can remember.
                          Go Gators!

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                          • mnuccio
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 9

                            #28
                            This article has some amateurish exaggerations in it, starting with the title.

                            Aside from that, I feel like I'm hostage to the broadcast presentation. I want to be able to press a button and skip it, but like a bad relative who drops by unannounced it just won't take a hint.

                            I would MUCH rather see an improved user interface for Franchise and a more time-saving, user-friendly playcalling menu system.

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                            • FaceMask
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 847

                              #29
                              Re: Madden NFL 15: Presentation is One Step Forward, Four Steps Back

                              Four steps back? That's just not accurate. There are some things missing. The absence of overhead/wire replay angles, as well as the absence of moving wire skycam replays is unfortunate. I also hate how big opportunities for closeups are often missed. But this is the best presentation Madden has ever had. Not quite too-kay level, but if they keep working on it and not quit like they do so often with presentation features, they'll get it.

                              All of that said, the commentary has gone nowhere. "he takes it", "he does this", "he does that", "the defense comes out in the dime", "the offense comes out in the pistol". Too many situations where names aren't being said. Generic lines that just don't do it. Kicker lines up for an FG or XP, and they don't say who's about to kick. Things like that should be in the rearview now. They can't blame the technology anymore.
                              Last edited by FaceMask; 08-31-2014, 07:23 PM.

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                              • thehitokiri
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 296

                                #30
                                I can't believe that plays that are challenge are still called wrong .. you have no option to select what you are actually challenging... ive played a bunch of games where the other teams receiver has caught the ball out of bounds and they still get the completion .. smh
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