Madden NFL 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (XB1/PS4)

[AshamanCarnage]

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Does anyone feel their isn't a sense of awareness with players? I don't really see them fighting for that first down or to fight to get the ball across for the TD. Even players like Peterson get stood up or brought down relatively easy one on one just inches away.

Blockers casually jogging by a DE or OLB who de-cleats me, wide receivers sprinting straight out of bounds, user Pass D non-existent, etc.

The game is decently fun, but some of these things have been around for SO long.

[PacMan3000]

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Okay fellas, is it me or is there simply no running game in this year's game? I mean, you take the snap, try to hit a hole, but since Madden never fully gives you complete control of your player, you inevitably hit an offensive linemen in the back. Then you get stuck, like that linemen has stickum on the back of his jersey. Stuck like a magnet, you can't do much until a defensive player comes and runs his entire body into you. Not a genuine tackle, but a strange rag doll collision where you both fall to the ground lifeless.

Am I missing something here? I've tried adjusting sliders, but there's nothing dynamic about the running game. You take the handoff, attempt to move towards a hole, and either get hit and rag doll to the ground or you hit a lineman, get magnetized, and wait for the opponent to run their bodies into yours and everyone falls over like dominoes.

[Skyboxer]

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Okay fellas, is it me or is there simply no running game in this year's game? I mean, you take the snap, try to hit a hole, but since Madden never fully gives you complete control of your player, you inevitably hit an offensive linemen in the back. Then you get stuck, like that linemen has stickum on the back of his jersey. Stuck like a magnet, you can't do much until a defensive player comes and runs his entire body into you. Not a genuine tackle, but a strange rag doll collision where you both fall to the ground lifeless.

Am I missing something here? I've tried adjusting sliders, but there's nothing dynamic about the running game. You take the handoff, attempt to move towards a whole, and either get hit and rag doll to the ground or you hit a lineman, get magnetized, and wait for the opponent to run their bodies into yours and everyone falls over like dominoes.

All this isn't directed at you man.. just throwing out some thoughts after seeing so many posts like :Can't stop the pass, robo QB on all levels etc..

First yes you do have control .. more realistic control IMO.
The main difference is, gone are the days of unrealistic zig zag and/or quick cuts with everyone.
Players seem to have weight to them now etc.. It's a welcomed change.
Running with Morris is totally different than with Helu for example.. So I need to call plays that match them more this year.

I've had plenty of 100 yard rushing games also.
You have to read the play and find the hole and get to it then use the speed, stiff arm etc.. to go through. Can't use speed as soon as you get the ball.
Even mid tiered QB's will have decent % if you just sit back and get no pressure etc..
On All Pro I've had great games with CPU % in realistic areas. All Madden I'm still not happy though.

Anyways..Yeah there are some stuffs..2 yard gains and then some longer runs. Have to be patient and the yards will come.
Of course the right sliders are important and once all the slider gurus get through everything there will be some really nice sets.

Anyways just saying IMO the Madden "control" and "strategy"of old needs to be forgotten and the new game should be embraced as it is a big upgrade to a lot of things IMO.
Everything from defending the pass to getting an offense has been a great surprise this year.
People need to stop thinking (wanting) old Madden things to still be there like being able to call 3 D plays and succeed etc..

Needs some work also of course but overall Madden is heading int the right direction.

Peace...

[loso_34]

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One thing I failed to mention was regarding USER Control. Several here brought this up...but compared to last gen, I feel like in M15 that I have very limited user control. There's a delay or something but at least with M25 or NCAA14 on 360 I felt like I had full control of my players. Ugh. The more I play M15 the more disappointed i become.

Man even madden? Why cant ea differentiate players in any series..they all play the same in nhl or fifa.

Just zero individuality man. I can do the same move whether its crosby or kadri.

Yet these games are praised. Casuals dont want strategy or a chess match they want end to end high scoring fb.

[PacMan3000]

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All this isn't directed at you man.. just throwing out some thoughts after seeing so many posts like :Can't stop the pass, robo QB on all levels etc..

First yes you do have control .. more realistic control IMO.
The main difference is, gone are the days of unrealistic zig zag and/or quick cuts with everyone.
Players seem to have weight to them now etc.. It's a welcomed change.
Running with Morris is totally different than with Helu for example.. So I need to call plays that match them more this year.

I've had plenty of 100 yard rushing games also.
You have to read the play and find the hole and get to it then use the speed, stiff arm etc.. to go through. Can't use speed as soon as you get the ball.
Even mid tiered QB's will have decent % if you just sit back and get no pressure etc..
On All Pro I've had great games with CPU % in realistic areas. All Madden I'm still not happy though.

Anyways..Yeah there are some stuffs..2 yard gains and then some longer runs. Have to be patient and the yards will come.
Of course the right sliders are important and once all the slider gurus get through everything there will be some really nice sets.

Anyways just saying IMO the Madden "control" and "strategy"of old needs to be forgotten and the new game should be embraced as it is a big upgrade to a lot of things IMO.
Everything from defending the pass to getting an offense has been a great surprise this year.
People need to stop thinking (wanting) old Madden things to still be there like being able to call 3 D plays and succeed etc..

Needs some work also of course but overall Madden is heading int the right direction.

Peace...

Not sure what you mean by want old Madden. I actually think all the zig zag stuff is still here actually.

I guess ultimately, I think that more control over the runner is needed. You can't, for example, run outside, plant, pivot and bounce back inside. That's an impossible thing to do here... There are just no animations created by EA to make it so.

I'm not saying you can't have a decent running game. I just think the running game is severely limited because you have some weird suction/magnetic thing going on. And that occurs at the expense of having total control of your running back.

[Skyboxer]

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Not sure what you mean by want old Madden. I actually think all the zig zag stuff is still here actually.

I guess ultimately, I think that more control over the runner is needed. You can't, for example, run outside, plant, pivot and bounce back inside. That's an impossible thing to do here... There are just no animations created by EA to make it so.

I'm not saying you can't have a decent running game. I just think the running game is severely limited because you have some weird suction/magnetic thing going on. And that occurs at the expense of having total control of your running back.

Oh I agree more animations or techniques are needed.. I just feel that the control as far as how the players move with what we have, is far more realistic than games of past as you feel different things with different players. At least I do..
As far as "old Madden" that was mainly directed towards people not adjusting to having to call D and O plays and having a strategy when playing. (Chess match)

I just hope EA keeps making these strides forward and we get more and more advances that we can all feel good about.

Now back to the Sony conference

[DeuceDouglas]

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Pretty much just confirmed what I already figured. The user pass coverage and/or pass reaction sliders don't work for the user. Just ran a test in practice mode and had the CPU run the same tight end corner route against man coverage and there wasn't any difference in coverage between 0-100 as well as no real difference in coverage between All-Madden and even Rookie. I switched sides and turned their pass coverage all the way down to 0 and their coverage looked a lot like mine did, very weak. Turned it up to 100 though and their coverage was extremely tight like you'd figure it should be. Even on Rookie it was fairly tight but with some more lapses.

Going to test with a few different routes and then record it to Twitch and upload to YouTube so it can get fixed ASAP. This has been my biggest issue playing so far and it seems like a fairly simple fix. I also think that this would help resolve some of the "robo-QB" issues people are having.

[The JareBear]

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Not sure what you mean by want old Madden. I actually think all the zig zag stuff is still here actually.

I guess ultimately, I think that more control over the runner is needed. You can't, for example, run outside, plant, pivot and bounce back inside. That's an impossible thing to do here... There are just no animations created by EA to make it so.

I'm not saying you can't have a decent running game. I just think the running game is severely limited because you have some weird suction/magnetic thing going on. And that occurs at the expense of having total control of your running back.

I haven't noticed this on normal speed and higher, I've seen very explosive runs by both sides

[The JareBear]

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Pretty much just confirmed what I already figured. The user pass coverage and/or pass reaction sliders don't work for the user. Just ran a test in practice mode and had the CPU run the same tight end corner route against man coverage and there wasn't any difference in coverage between 0-100 as well as no real difference in coverage between All-Madden and even Rookie. I switched sides and turned their pass coverage all the way down to 0 and their coverage looked a lot like mine did, very weak. Turned it up to 100 though and their coverage was extremely tight like you'd figure it should be. Even on Rookie it was fairly tight but with some more lapses.

Going to test with a few different routes and then record it to Twitch and upload to YouTube so it can get fixed ASAP. This has been my biggest issue playing so far and it seems like a fairly simple fix. I also think that this would help resolve some of the "robo-QB" issues people are having.

Unfortunately, wasn't this also an issue last year? Correct me if I am wrong but I think I remember people going back and forth between those sliders in particular being "backward or broken" for awhile now. Might not be an easy fix since it seems to have been around for awhile

[darkknightrises]

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So I wasn't going to get the game has I didn't get last years game for the first time in a long time has I have just got fead up with madden but I was so wanting to try the game with it being on a new generation of conserls that I end up getting the game. The grapchis are pretty good but so far the only game on ps4 that has blow me away graphic wise is nba 2k14. I just played my first game as I just got the game yesterday. I already noticed something that wasn't a problem back during the ps2 days that was a problem last gen and looks like it is back and that is clock management. I packers vs Vikings and the Vikings have the ball on like the 30erd yard line they complete a pass to about the 20 and with about 12 seconds left and 1 time out by the time they get back to the line. I am think they will call the time out and kick the fg to end the half or call the time out right away and then take a change with one pass to the end zone and if they don't get it then kick the fg. But instead they want and snap the ball with 1 second left and try to get a TD so cost them probly 3 points has I stop them. So hear are my first game stats all pro deafault sliders keep in mind I am not the most skilled madden player and I didn't have last years game and haven't played a lot of madden in a long time.


Packers me
passing A. Rodgers 29-47 311 yds 2td 4int long 37
Rushing e lacy 20 70 yards 2 td
Team stats
rushing yards 79
passing yards 303
told 382
turnovers 5


Vikings CPU
m.cassel 17-26 275 yards 3td 2int long 87
a.Peterson 37 149 yards 1 td
team stats
rushing yards 197
passing yards 268
told 465


Now I got behind really quike in this game and had a really bad last like 3 minutes before half time with a fumble and a int and was down 24-7 at half time witch is why I had to thorw the ball so much. Has you can see lots of tunovers. Both teams 1 sack. Will have to play more has 1 game is not much but I had trouble getting to the qb for the most part and the qb excabel 2 sacks that they probly shouldn't have been able to excaple including 1 that lead to the 87 yard pass play. I felt like 1 of the 4 int that the CPU foced me into was kind of cheep and the 1 I had was on a reall good catch. To early to make a judgment but I really hope I didn't wast my money on the game has I felt like all of last gen was just a wast for madden. This was with 15 minute quarters and 20 accle clock may have to put it down to 15 accle clock has I think there was maybe a few to many plays 146 nfl average I think is 120-130

[DeuceDouglas]

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Unfortunately, wasn't this also an issue last year? Correct me if I am wrong but I think I remember people going back and forth between those sliders in particular being "backward or broken" form awhile now. Might not be a on easy fix since it seems to have been around for awhile

I'm not sure. I know it's been an issue before but I remember seeing in the next-gen thread last year weird things like the interception slider actually being pass coverage but I checked that and it didn't do anything. There was this issue a couple years ago I believe in Madden 13 where they didn't work in CFM and that got fixed. The slider works for the CPU perfectly but doesn't seem to work at all for the user so hopefully it is an easy fix.

Just did it on the corner route in practice and it plays out the exact same every time whether coverage is at 0 or 100, All-Madden or Rookie. Going to check some more routes to see if it plays out the same.

[DeuceDouglas]

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Well the slider does seem to work at least a little bit. Kept having the CPU run curls and there seemed to be a little bit of a difference between 0 and 100. Seems like anything that involves the DB planting his feet because of a receiver break though results in huge separation whether you're on 0 or 100 and it doesn't affect the CPU hardly at all on 50. Didn't do any zone testing but that's been just as bad as the man coverage so I'd still like to see the effectiveness of pass coverage raised.

[woody2goody]

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Ehh.. At this point, the game is fun to me, that's all I care about. . I have no desire to go on bug hunts. To each their own, but I don't put a lot of stock in the opinions of people who are simply looking for YouTube fame.

All I see with those guys, no matter what game they are playing, is them playing the game fairly badly and then trying to say the game is bad.

This seems like a solid iteration of Madden and hopefully they will patch some things to make it feel a bit more natural.

[SoxFan01605]

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Has anyone found a way to have the AI attack you down field more? I've had some competitive games (including a fair share of losses), but it's either due to my lack of offense or the AI completing about 30-40 short passes and/or running all over me. I'm fine with losing that way, but I'd like to see some more variety in games and, honestly, I should have lost some of my games by a lot more if the AI was on its passing game. And when I say "down field" I'm not asking for a barrage of deep balls or anything...just an increase in pass attempts for more than 10 yds.

I've yet to have my secondary really tested. I've tried calling more man defenses (was running a lot of zone early on) but the AI still won't test me and if I all-out blitz then the CPU is going to get sacked at least 6-8 times (this last game it was 11 and that was with their pass block slider at 95) and end up getting no offense in. Now, it obviously makes sense that with an overpowered pass rush there would be less time to hit deeper routes, but since I've not seen much talk about passing aggressiveness, I'm hoping it's something I'm doing/not doing on my end.

Anyway, I've gotten the running game pretty much where I want it on both sides and my own passing numbers are solid as well (a bit low most times, but that's on me), but I'm stuck between a short-range "Robo QB" (All Madden) or non-existent/very weak passing game (All Pro) for the AI.

For what it's worth, here are the related sliders I've most recently tried (I keep going back to All Pro because it's giving me the best results everywhere else):

Player coverage and reaction at 40
Player tackling at 35
CPU pass block at 95
CPU Run Block at 70
CPU Accuracy at 40

The only thing I haven't tried (I think) is bumping CPU accuracy past default since I've found the AI too accurate, but if that relates at all to their aggressiveness, I'll try it. Just trying to find balance is all because I'm so darn close to getting this game where I want it.

[The JareBear]

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SoxFan, are you playing on slow?

Only way I got CPU taking sacks somewhere close to being reasonable, as well as CPU going downfield a few times a game (both are still not where they should be, but better now) was switching to normal difficulty.