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  • joshtree14
    Rookie
    • Sep 2009
    • 218

    #1

    The time could be just right for a competitor on 2015

    Lets be honest with ourselves. Is the gampeplay from NHL15 a little to similar to nhl14 on the 360? The answer is yes it is. I believe when a new generation of hardware is introduced, the new product should never mimic the old one. 2k has been without hockey for quite some time. Have they had enough time to plan a next gen experience? I would say yes. Could 2k take advantage of the missing modes and similar gameplay that is Nhl15?I would say yes. IMHO NHL15 is not a next gen experience. It feels way to similar and doesn't look the part. 2k has a golden opportunity to gain market share only if they have been planning/working I a hockey tittle.
  • CRIP4LIFE
    Zero Finger Movement
    • Apr 2007
    • 505

    #2
    Re: The time could be just right for a competitor on 2015

    2k is not working on a hockey title. they lost a ton of money on their last hockey franchise and that is why they abandon it.

    further, it would take years from now for any developer to challenge EA.

    finally, this should probably go in impressions so it'll probably get closed.
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    • BigDisk
      Rookie
      • Sep 2009
      • 134

      #3
      Re: The time could be just right for a competitor on 2015

      What is needed is an indie, open-source, multi-platform hockey project....

      Start it simple. Once you get something playable, start a kickstarter campaign.

      That could really work.

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      • pezdaddy
        Rookie
        • Oct 2013
        • 164

        #4
        Re: The time could be just right for a competitor on 2015

        even if a 2k or another developer gets the rights to make an NHL sponsored game, the development time from scratch to finish would be over a year, possibly two. So the EA competitor wouldn't even be available before 2016

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        • gurkis19
          Rookie
          • Mar 2013
          • 50

          #5
          Re: The time could be just right for a competitor on 2015

          Ok, how could i start.......



          I Was furious when i found out, what it had missing. I was writing messages to nhl team and rammer, but you know how they deal this kind of whining.

          But then i just sat down and realized, FOR A FIRST NEXT GEN RELEASE this game is looking really amazing. At a starting point of current gen we didn't have all we have now or had to be exact. For example EASHL HUT, LTL etc.

          What i want to say is we are so used to have all the modes and everything. Series was on stand still graphic and gameplay wise. so they just had to put other in my opinnion usesless modes in the game, to make it more attractive until the Next gen come out.

          So now the cycle goes again. first we will get graphic quality rise for couple of years. then the modes will come. GRAPHICS was their main concern.
          AND in my mind mainly all of the modes or 90% will be back next year.

          Maybe we just don't know how hard it was to get those graphics right, presentation and everything. There wasn't enough time to get everything in.
          Like gameplay wise this game is like night and day vs old gen. everything feels and looks so much better. And almost everyone who whines does it because of modes not the gameplay.

          If they put the modes in THIS GAME WILL BE ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS.

          YOU Can't have everything in first release of next gan game.

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          • pm83
            Rookie
            • Jul 2007
            • 281

            #6
            Re: The time could be just right for a competitor on 2015

            I will toss in few if there will be a serious kickstart project for a new game.

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            • socalbeast08
              Banned
              • May 2009
              • 113

              #7
              Re: The time could be just right for a competitor on 2015

              Originally posted by pm83
              I will toss in few if there will be a serious kickstart project for a new game.
              Haha i posted this same comment in another thread. I think its time for competition, 2k still has to have a base of their hockey games stashed somewhere so they could build off of that. This is perfect timing for someone to step up and challenge EA.

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              • MavsUCCB
                Rookie
                • Jul 2006
                • 35

                #8
                Re: The time could be just right for a competitor on 2015

                Help us HB Studios

                You're are only hope

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                • Mrmagoo
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 669

                  #9
                  Re: The time could be just right for a competitor on 2015

                  Originally posted by CRIP4LIFE
                  2k is not working on a hockey title. they lost a ton of money on their last hockey franchise and that is why they abandon it.

                  further, it would take years from now for any developer to challenge EA.

                  finally, this should probably go in impressions so it'll probably get closed.
                  Challenge ea??.... Really?. Yea Lmao!!!!

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                  • Södy
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 133

                    #10
                    Re: The time could be just right for a competitor on 2015

                    Originally posted by gurkis19
                    Ok, how could i start.......



                    I Was furious when i found out, what it had missing. I was writing messages to nhl team and rammer, but you know how they deal this kind of whining.

                    But then i just sat down and realized, FOR A FIRST NEXT GEN RELEASE this game is looking really amazing. At a starting point of current gen we didn't have all we have now or had to be exact. For example EASHL HUT, LTL etc.

                    What i want to say is we are so used to have all the modes and everything. Series was on stand still graphic and gameplay wise. so they just had to put other in my opinnion usesless modes in the game, to make it more attractive until the Next gen come out.

                    So now the cycle goes again. first we will get graphic quality rise for couple of years. then the modes will come. GRAPHICS was their main concern.
                    AND in my mind mainly all of the modes or 90% will be back next year.

                    Maybe we just don't know how hard it was to get those graphics right, presentation and everything. There wasn't enough time to get everything in.
                    Like gameplay wise this game is like night and day vs old gen. everything feels and looks so much better. And almost everyone who whines does it because of modes not the gameplay.

                    If they put the modes in THIS GAME WILL BE ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS.

                    YOU Can't have everything in first release of next gan game.
                    While I agree with you on this (heck, NHL 07 had the NHL ONLY) the problem here is, it was ok back then because the game was just miles ahead because of skill stick, graphics and everything. It was a price everybody liked to pay.

                    This year, while I am sure the devs coded the game from the ground up new because of the new consoles, the step the users see isn't as big as before.

                    That is the real problem here. In my opinion, the game is far superior to the old gen in gameplay. But you have to play it a bit to notice. There is basically no "WOW"-effect that we had back in 06 when NHL 07 launched.

                    And this is why everybody is upset. It is hard because NHL 14 was better than NHL 06 for PS2/PC/XBOX relative to the time.

                    I don't blame the devs, it is stupid to think, they didn't worked their asses of. Everybody who ever developed something knows, that you try to make it perfect and bullet proof. But the man power is missing to bring all the features in. Maybe, the head of EA said to leave some features out to bring them back in as bigger features in later years.

                    The communication is horrible and the product is not that much different to NHL 14 than 07 was to 06. And that is the problem here.
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                    • TemplateR
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 126

                      #11
                      Re: The time could be just right for a competitor on 2015

                      Originally posted by BigDisk
                      What is needed is an indie, open-source, multi-platform hockey project....

                      If there is an an indie, open-source, multi-platform hockey project, then it will be without the official NHL-License.

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                      • Taku
                        Pro
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 842

                        #12
                        Re: The time could be just right for a competitor on 2015

                        Just let fans make custom jerseys and rosters, no need for licenses...

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                        • TemplateR
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 126

                          #13
                          Re: The time could be just right for a competitor on 2015

                          Originally posted by Taku
                          Just let fans make custom jerseys and rosters, no need for licenses...

                          I just pointed, that an indie-developer, who want to create a multi-platform hockey project, won´t be allowed to use NHL-releated stuff.

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                          • 18 eighty 5
                            Yellow n Black
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 926

                            #14
                            Re: The time could be just right for a competitor on 2015

                            Then make a fantasy hockey game. Crikey make alien and robot teams just so long as a new project gets up.
                            We are the music makers...

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                            • jaiman
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 605

                              #15
                              Re: The time could be just right for a competitor on 2015

                              Originally posted by pm83
                              I will toss in few if there will be a serious kickstart project for a new game.
                              Maybe we, as fans can start one up? Gather enough momentum for a developer to bite. Basically "We're kickstarting for any developer with past hockey experience to build a new, authentic hockey game. These dollars go to you. Kind of like a grant, so to speak."

                              Just a thought. I'm sure there is more to it than that.
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