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  • FaceMask
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    • Oct 2013
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    #901
    Re: Madden NFL 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (XB1/PS4)

    Originally posted by bkrich83
    Look at the breakdowns though. Passing attempts are up, but vertical attempts are not..

    Phillip Rivers for example had 550 pass attempts. 49 of them were more than 20 yards down the field. That's about 3 a game, which includes hail mary's.

    Matt Stafford even with Megatron had 59 attempts over 20 yards and completed less than 30%. In fact of his 600+ attempts half were thrown less than 10 yards beyond the LOS.
    But those are good ratios. You're not going to get too much better in real life. But in Madden, even watching CPU vs CPU gameplay I'm not seeing the numbers getting to that.

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    • bkrich83
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      #902
      Re: Madden NFL 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (XB1/PS4)

      Originally posted by FaceMask
      But those are good ratios. You're not going to get too much better in real life. But in Madden, even watching CPU vs CPU gameplay I'm not seeing the numbers getting to that.
      You're not seeing between 2 and 4 pass attempts down the field? At all?

      Different than my experience, and a little bit counter to what you said earlier.
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      • FaceMask
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        #903
        Re: Madden NFL 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (XB1/PS4)

        Originally posted by bkrich83
        You're not seeing between 2 and 4 pass attempts down the field? At all?
        Attempts, but not much success. Lots of drops, lots of hits that cause drops. Lots of drops that are laughable and shouldn't/wouldn't happen in real life, but that's another story.

        Originally posted by bkrich83
        Different than my experience, and a little bit counter to what you said earlier.
        "Counter" how exactly?

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        • bkrich83
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          #904
          Re: Madden NFL 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (XB1/PS4)

          Originally posted by FaceMask
          Attempts, but not much success. Lots of drops, lots of hits that cause drops. Lots of drops that are laughable and shouldn't/wouldn't happen in real life, but that's another story.



          "Counter" how exactly?
          Again the average is less than 30% on pass attempts in that range. Not sure how much success you're expecting.

          Counter in the fact you said it wasn't gone but almost gone, yet if you look at league averages it's like 2 or 3 attempts a game. So what you're saying is you're seeing less than that?

          As far as the drops on the deep balls? We must be playing different games.
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          • FaceMask
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            • Oct 2013
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            #905
            Re: Madden NFL 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (XB1/PS4)

            Originally posted by bkrich83
            Again the average is less than 30% on pass attempts in that range. Not sure how much success you're expecting.
            I think I've been pretty clear that I'm seeing much less than that rate...

            Originally posted by bkrich83
            Counter in the fact you said it wasn't gone but almost gone, yet if you look at league averages it's like 2 or 3 attempts a game. So what you're saying is you're seeing less than that?
            I said almost impossible; I originally said that and never changed from it, so it wasn't a counter to anything I previously said.


            Originally posted by bkrich83
            As far as the drops on the deep balls? We must be playing different games.
            Nope. It's just that user experiences vary based on a number of factors. That's the way it always is.

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            • bkrich83
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              #906
              Re: Madden NFL 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (XB1/PS4)

              Originally posted by FaceMask
              I think I've been pretty clear that I'm seeing much less than that rate...
              .
              How much less? What are you using as your metric?
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              • Gridiron
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                • Jun 2008
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                #907
                Re: Madden NFL 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (XB1/PS4)

                Originally posted by bkrich83
                Again the average is less than 30% on pass attempts in that range. Not sure how much success you're expecting.

                Counter in the fact you said it wasn't gone but almost gone, yet if you look at league averages it's like 2 or 3 attempts a game. So what you're saying is you're seeing less than that?

                As far as the drops on the deep balls? We must be playing different games.
                I'm sure he was talkin bout success rates not attempts.

                On the strength, the WR's do drop a lot of passes they shouldn't in this game. They prolly do it to try to keep completion percentages down. Dudes drop balls in this game that in real life certain WR's would pretty much never drop.

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                • bkrich83
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                  #908
                  Re: Madden NFL 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (XB1/PS4)

                  Originally posted by Gridiron
                  I'm sure he was talkin bout success rates not attempts.

                  On the strength, the WR's do drop a lot of passes they shouldn't in this game. They prolly do it to try to keep completion percentages down. Dudes drop balls in this game that in real life certain WR's would pretty much never drop.
                  He wasn't. But as I also stated the success rate IRL is less than 30%. I haven't kept track, but what I am seeing seems in the realm of that reality.

                  Edit: With the exception of Peyton Manning. His success rate on throws 20+ is ridiculous IRL.
                  Last edited by bkrich83; 09-05-2014, 09:21 PM.
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                  • A_Quiet_Pro
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                    #909
                    Re: Madden NFL 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (XB1/PS4)

                    I gotta say this because it's still my BIGGEST pet peeve in Madden. WR catching animations!!!!!!! PLEASE, unless it's a jump ball, RECEIVERS DONT JUMP EVERY TIME for the ball!!!! Pisses me off I get a great catch that gets knocked away because my guy jumps 5 miles up for absolutely no reason And it allows the defender just enough time to run over and make a play. CHEST CATCHES, BASKET CATCHES, and stuff like that are normal.. come on EA!

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                    • FaceMask
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                      #910
                      Re: Madden NFL 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (XB1/PS4)

                      Originally posted by bkrich83
                      He wasn't. But as I also stated the success rate IRL is less than 30%. I haven't kept track, but what I am seeing seems in the realm of that reality.

                      Edit: With the exception of Peyton Manning. His success rate on throws 20+ is ridiculous.
                      I was talking about both. I don't feel teams take enough shots and I don't feel they connect on enough. I've gone many games where teams took no shots at all, and many games where they took some and never completed any, either because of a questionable drop or other.

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                      • Skyboxer
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                        #911
                        Re: Madden NFL 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (XB1/PS4)

                        I think I've seen maybe 5-6 dropped passes since I've had the game. I even dropped WR catch to 48...

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                        • Arrowhead21
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                          #912
                          Re: Madden NFL 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (XB1/PS4)

                          LOL you dropped it all the way to 48 from 50??? wooowwwzzzaaa

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                          • Gridiron
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                            #913
                            Re: Madden NFL 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (XB1/PS4)

                            Originally posted by FaceMask
                            I was talking about both. I don't feel teams take enough shots and I don't feel they connect on enough. I've gone many games where teams took no shots at all, and many games where they took some and never completed any, either because of a questionable drop or other.
                            With them not takin a lotta shots on you, it might just be the defenses you call or the personnel. You might just be taking tops away more than you're realizing.

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                            • kjcheezhead
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                              #914
                              Re: Madden NFL 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (XB1/PS4)

                              Originally posted by SageInfinite
                              I hate that. The passing game needs work next year in all aspects.
                              When APF is mentioned, this is my reason why I like that game better on the field. The timing and route based passing is just better. Much easier to put the ball in a spot away from defenders.

                              I love that throw a wr open is toned way down from its inception, but it's still not as good as even madden on ps2 as far as realistic ball placement, much less APF.

                              That's not to say I'm not enjoying madden this year, I just think overhauling the passing game would take to another level on the field.

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                              • Davon_A_Brown
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                                • May 2013
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                                #915
                                Re: Madden NFL 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (XB1/PS4)

                                Originally posted by A_Quiet_Pro
                                I gotta say this because it's still my BIGGEST pet peeve in Madden. WR catching animations!!!!!!! PLEASE, unless it's a jump ball, RECEIVERS DONT JUMP EVERY TIME for the ball!!!! Pisses me off I get a great catch that gets knocked away because my guy jumps 5 miles up for absolutely no reason And it allows the defender just enough time to run over and make a play. CHEST CATCHES, BASKET CATCHES, and stuff like that are normal.. come on EA!
                                I'll take that over having my All-Pro receiver never going up to get the ball at it's highest point.



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