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  • RoDogz85
    Banned
    • Oct 2010
    • 168

    #1

    All Pro VS. All Madden

    Which is better and why? What do you use?
  • Equinox831
    We're Going Farming
    • Sep 2009
    • 2489

    #2
    Re: All Pro VS. All Madden

    It's dependent on your sliders, but the main difference is All-Madden CPU is more likely to do some superhuman things. All-Pro has, for me, delivered a more simulation style game for a while now, especially with good sliders that fit your style, but All-Madden is a great go-to if you really want a challenge. The best part about All-Madden in Madden 15 is probably the passing game because you can't make mistakes or else you're punished swiftly and harshly. All-Pro is a lot more forgiving and the interception numbers are a bit lower, but All-Madden DBs are relentless. It's all a matter of personal preference.
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    • RoDogz85
      Banned
      • Oct 2010
      • 168

      #3
      Re: All Pro VS. All Madden

      Originally posted by Equinox831
      It's dependent on your sliders, but the main difference is All-Madden CPU is more likely to do some superhuman things. All-Pro has, for me, delivered a more simulation style game for a while now, especially with good sliders that fit your style, but All-Madden is a great go-to if you really want a challenge. The best part about All-Madden in Madden 15 is probably the passing game because you can't make mistakes or else you're punished swiftly and harshly. All-Pro is a lot more forgiving and the interception numbers are a bit lower, but All-Madden DBs are relentless. It's all a matter of personal preference.
      What sliders do you roll with mate?

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      • KobeBean8
        Banned
        • Aug 2014
        • 124

        #4
        All Pro VS. All Madden

        I can't play on anything except All-Madden, but it's soooo frustrating stopping their passing game. If I can find the sliders just for defense to be able to stay w/ the receivers.

        They always get open somehow and the only way I can stop them is by a sack or tackling them before the first. The QBs barely throw incompletions because someone always becomes wide open. Just wish my pass coverage would actually be able to knock down the ball sometimes instead of QBs going 12-12 and etc.

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        • Shon 23
          Pro
          • Sep 2003
          • 634

          #5
          Re: All Pro VS. All Madden

          All-Pro for me.

          All-Pro has always seemed to take into account the player's rating better than All-Madden, whereas All-Madden will "cheat" a little bit, whether it is all the CPU players on defense being a tad bit quicker, or robo QBs. The player ratings don't matter as much, in my opinion, as All-Madden just increases the difficulty overall, regardless of player's ratings. They don't matter as much.

          All-Pro with a good slider set, plays more realistically, in my opinion. Many other players share this opinion on the players ratings mattering a bit more, and more fair play in general, as well, on All-Pro.

          I use a tweaked set of my own beliefs on what needs to be set at, based on Armor & Sword's base set sliders (which came from his older v1.2 set), which are very good. My slider thread is also in the slider forum, if you want to see what I am currently using. I'm really liking how the game is playing, thus far with my own tweaks.

          I also play on normal speed (0 min speed player threshold), for what it's worth.
          Last edited by Shon 23; 09-08-2014, 06:15 AM.

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          • Shon 23
            Pro
            • Sep 2003
            • 634

            #6
            Re: All Pro VS. All Madden

            Originally posted by Equinox831
            It's dependent on your sliders, but the main difference is All-Madden CPU is more likely to do some superhuman things. All-Pro has, for me, delivered a more simulation style game for a while now, especially with good sliders that fit your style, but All-Madden is a great go-to if you really want a challenge. The best part about All-Madden in Madden 15 is probably the passing game because you can't make mistakes or else you're punished swiftly and harshly. All-Pro is a lot more forgiving and the interception numbers are a bit lower, but All-Madden DBs are relentless. It's all a matter of personal preference.
            I don't doubt that All-Madden DBs are relentless, but with the INT slider at the proper setting on All-Pro, and you will still pay for your miscues in the passing game with multiple INTs.

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            • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
              MVP
              • Dec 2009
              • 4682

              #7
              Re: All Pro VS. All Madden

              Originally posted by ForTheQuinn94
              All-Pro for me.

              All-Pro has always seemed to take into account the player's rating better than All-Madden, whereas All-Madden will "cheat" a little bit, whether it is all the CPU players on defense being a tad bit quicker, or robo QBs. The player ratings don't matter as much, in my opinion, as All-Madden just increases the difficulty overall, regardless of player's ratings. They don't matter as much.

              All-Pro with a good slider set, play more realistically, in my opinion. Many other players share this opinion on the players ratings mattering a bit more, and more fair play in general, as well, on All-Pro.

              I use a tweaked set of my own beliefs on what needs to be set at, based on Armor & Sword's base set sliders (which came from his older v1.2 set), which are very good. My slider thread is also in the slider forum, if you want to see what I am currently using. I'm really liking how the game is playing, thus far with my own tweaks.

              I also play on normal speed (0 min speed player threshold), for what it's worth.
              Originally posted by ForTheQuinn94
              I don't doubt that All-Madden DBs are relentless, but with the INT slider at the proper setting on All-Pro, and you will still pay for your miscues in the passing game with multiple INTs.
              Originally posted by Equinox831
              It's dependent on your sliders, but the main difference is All-Madden CPU is more likely to do some superhuman things. All-Pro has, for me, delivered a more simulation style game for a while now, especially with good sliders that fit your style, but All-Madden is a great go-to if you really want a challenge. The best part about All-Madden in Madden 15 is probably the passing game because you can't make mistakes or else you're punished swiftly and harshly. All-Pro is a lot more forgiving and the interception numbers are a bit lower, but All-Madden DBs are relentless. It's all a matter of personal preference.



              My question/issue is this: is the CPU "smarter" on All-Madden? I think it is. I think the CPU play calling is less predictable on All-Madden, and I think CPU players react better to repeated play calls you make.

              For that reason, I'd rather adjust the sliders AGAINST the CPU to make it less Super Human than play on All-Pro and adjust the sliders FOR the CPU.


              Any thoughts on this? Does the CPU actually play smarter on All-Madden, or am I imagining things?
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              • Fr8Train
                Rookie
                • Mar 2011
                • 104

                #8
                Re: All Pro VS. All Madden

                Question for everyone here.

                All-Madden & All-Pro is just a preloaded slider setting.

                The minute you change them, it's no longer All-Pro or All Madden.

                Let's say you create a league with the a Rookie setting, but change all if the sliders to mimic what All Madden has. Would you not be playing in an All madden league now? Since the sliders are set the same? Regardless of it saying Rookie now.
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                • kb0731
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 259

                  #9
                  Re: All Pro VS. All Madden

                  Originally posted by ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
                  My question/issue is this: is the CPU "smarter" on All-Madden? I think it is. I think the CPU play calling is less predictable on All-Madden, and I think CPU players react better to repeated play calls you make.



                  For that reason, I'd rather adjust the sliders AGAINST the CPU to make it less Super Human than play on All-Pro and adjust the sliders FOR the CPU.





                  Any thoughts on this? Does the CPU actually play smarter on All-Madden, or am I imagining things?

                  I believe the CPU is smart on all pro too. I was using the cowboys against 49ers and frank gore was hashing all through my defense and the CPU just kept running it down my throat. So I decided to guess a run and I guessed wrong lol. The CPU play action faked me for a touchdown


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                  • canes21
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 22937

                    #10
                    Re: All Pro VS. All Madden

                    Originally posted by Fr8Train
                    Question for everyone here.

                    All-Madden & All-Pro is just a preloaded slider setting.

                    The minute you change them, it's no longer All-Pro or All Madden.

                    Let's say you create a league with the a Rookie setting, but change all if the sliders to mimic what All Madden has. Would you not be playing in an All madden league now? Since the sliders are set the same? Regardless of it saying Rookie now.
                    Sliders are not tied to a difficulty setting anymore, so that is not correct.
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                    • JBoo2911
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 237

                      #11
                      Re: All Pro VS. All Madden

                      I prefer All-Pro with adjusted sliders. Madden 25 was the only release I ever move up to All-Madden because All-pro was to easy. This yr, Madden 15 All-Pro with adjusted sliders plays great gm.
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                      • WilesThing
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 115

                        #12
                        Re: All Pro VS. All Madden

                        You can actually see the way All Madden increases the cpu ratings with the match up stick.

                        Play an offline game or practice mode on All Pro and hold the left trigger on offense when walking up to the line to see player matchups. Take note of one WR/DB matchup and your oline matchups.

                        Then go into settings and switch to All Madden. Repeat the above and now you'll see the WR has lost speed and route running, and that your oline has gotten worse.

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                        • booker21
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 4928

                          #13
                          Re: All Pro VS. All Madden

                          Originally posted by WilesThing
                          You can actually see the way All Madden increases the cpu ratings with the match up stick.

                          Play an offline game or practice mode on All Pro and hold the left trigger on offense when walking up to the line to see player matchups. Take note of one WR/DB matchup and your oline matchups.

                          Then go into settings and switch to All Madden. Repeat the above and now you'll see the WR has lost speed and route running, and that your oline has gotten worse.
                          Nice find. Im going to try it.

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                          • zizoux
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 464

                            #14
                            Re: All Pro VS. All Madden

                            Q:would going to All-Madden make the "gap" in ratings differences bigger or smaller do you think?
                            A:bigger. Your elite players will be more elite. Other guys improve too, but elite will stand out (especially on defense!)

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                            • booker21
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 4928

                              #15
                              Re: All Pro VS. All Madden

                              Originally posted by zizoux
                              Q:would going to All-Madden make the "gap" in ratings differences bigger or smaller do you think?
                              A:bigger. Your elite players will be more elite. Other guys improve too, but elite will stand out (especially on defense!)

                              twitter.com/ClintOldenburg/status/509033248853606400
                              I was following his tweets regarding this but to be honest i disagree. Clearly All madden cheat in many aspects. My DL rarely shade their blocks. CPU HB run amok on my D.

                              If you are a no switching player like i`m, All pro is more close to the actual ratings.
                              English, is not my first language.

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