Again I guess my expectation are much higher for this generation. Because I just think things like physics, league wide stats, player attributes, and having synergy should be enough to have the digital players putting up numbers as close to their real life counter parts as possible. That in itself should be enough to render sliders useless. Again if we had all of those things(and we do) and they work properly I can't see one reason why we need sliders and I haven't been convinced why it shouldn't be enough.