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  • Playmakers
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    • Sep 2004
    • 15340

    #76
    Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

    I'm not going to say what I really want to say about EA's direction with this series the past few years now....So I'll keep clean

    To be quite frank this is why I don't post very much at all on the Live boards because it's obvious they have moved on from things like sliders that allowed us to customize the gameplay to fit our needs and instead they are forcing us to play B-Ball their way because somehow or someway they got the feedback that their way represented the best gameplay out of the box hands down and their AI is superior to anything we've ever seen before........

    It's really not even worth the time complaining about it anymore you can either buy their game and play it the way they want you to play it or you can keep your $60 bucks in your pocket and wait til NEXT YEAR AGAIN.....

    Either way I don't think they give a rats u know what.....which is obvious since they completely ignored one of the biggest request (Sliders) on these boards and probably several other gaming sites.

    Ask EA to take a look at the Roster and Sliders forums over here and compare it to their rivals if they think it's not a big deal to their customers...

    Those boards have been pretty much useless for the past 2 years now and that won't change this year either because of the lack of editing control we have.
    Last edited by Playmakers; 09-09-2014, 04:56 AM.
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    • darkknightrises
      Banned
      • Sep 2012
      • 1468

      #77
      Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

      Originally posted by da ThRONe
      Not having the ability to edit player is a much more bigger problem than not having sliders IMO.


      I disagree big time. Sliders are way more important. With out sliders even the great mlb the show doesn't play realistic. With out being able to edit a player a game can still play very realistic.

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      • TheRealMrRager_
        Rookie
        • Aug 2014
        • 32

        #78
        He said "best Durant out there" lmao. I found that hilarious.

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        • TreyIM2
          MVP
          • Apr 2009
          • 1424

          #79
          Wow, no sliders. Hope EA either has pending plans to patch them in later because maybe there wasn't enough time to work them in properly or they wake up and realize how important they are then patch them in because as most of us know, those are highly necessary to customize sports games to our liking, these days.

          Other than that, no qualms frkm this chat. Need to play a demo.
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          • grodbetatted
            Rookie
            • May 2013
            • 362

            #80
            I honestly don't see the big deal about the sliders.. i feel the game should play the most "sim" out of the box... Sliders aren't used to make the game more sim per the user, to me its more to make the game EASIER for them. 2k and EA alike have the game on specific settings because that is what best represents basketball. I've seen people adjust sliders and play and I'm like really? Watching them play is horrid and definitely not an accurate simulation of basketball... its an eye sore that the basketball gods wouldn't appreciate.

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            • nick_sr
              MVP
              • Oct 2012
              • 1934

              #81
              Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

              Originally posted by TheRealMrRager_
              He said "best Durant out there" lmao. I found that hilarious.
              have you seen their durant? just curious
              @KingTate84 on twitter.

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              • Gramps91
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                • Sep 2010
                • 2114

                #82
                I think no sliders suck but it's not a deal breaker yet. Some of the gameplay released look decent.
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                • El_Poopador
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 2624

                  #83
                  Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

                  Originally posted by grodbetatted
                  I honestly don't see the big deal about the sliders.. i feel the game should play the most "sim" out of the box... Sliders aren't used to make the game more sim per the user, to me its more to make the game EASIER for them. 2k and EA alike have the game on specific settings because that is what best represents basketball. I've seen people adjust sliders and play and I'm like really? Watching them play is horrid and definitely not an accurate simulation of basketball... its an eye sore that the basketball gods wouldn't appreciate.
                  So if, out of the box, the CPU is able to predict passes and jump the lane 50% of the time you throw a pass, you're fine not being able to adjust that?

                  Yes, some people use the sliders to give themselves a huge advantage, but sometimes being able to tweak something that feels a little off can make a huge difference.

                  2k and EA alike have the game on specific settings because that is what best represents basketball.
                  Yet the two games play very differently. Why is that? If one of them really was what "best represents basketball," there would be no need to make a new game next year. They could just release a roster update and be done with it.

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                  • GisherJohn24
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 4578

                    #84
                    Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

                    I'im not a programmer, but I assume there is a lot of resources used for programing for slider interaction and how it affects AI and every aspect of the game. The focus on the game is obviously gameplay and that's what I always wanted. Again, remove what you need to get the game on the court playing right, then worry about modes and sliders later. I support EA doing this. It's about resources and focus.

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                    • stillfeelme
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                      • Aug 2010
                      • 2405

                      #85
                      Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

                      Leaving all gameplay adjustments to Synergy and difficulty levels adjustment just sounds like a recipe for disappointment. No game will ever be tuned to the level the user wants. This is basic sports gaming 101. To me it sounds like they coded the game in a way that makes placing sliders difficult and then they have to test them which equals more time that they don't have now.

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                      • GisherJohn24
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 4578

                        #86
                        Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

                        Originally posted by stillfeelme
                        Leaving all gameplay adjustments to Synergy and difficulty levels adjustment just sounds like a recipe for disappointment. No game will ever be tuned to the level the user wants. This is basic sports gaming 101. To me it sounds like they coded the game in a way that makes placing sliders difficult and then they have to test them which equals more time that they don't have now.
                        I'd still rather they focus on the court than other things. Gameplay needs to be fixed and that's what they are doing .

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                        • The 24th Letter
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                          • Oct 2007
                          • 39373

                          #87
                          NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Con...

                          Sliders effect what's on the court....they aren't there to adjust the menu..



                          They could work solely on gameplay for an extra year for all I care, but they're handicapping themselves with the decision.
                          Last edited by The 24th Letter; 09-09-2014, 09:49 AM.

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                          • stillfeelme
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 2405

                            #88
                            Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

                            Originally posted by GisherJohn24
                            I'd still rather they focus on the court than other things. Gameplay needs to be fixed and that's what they are doing .
                            Yeah it is clear the game isn't ready just yet that is why they need time. I am talking basic sports programming.

                            Games need tuners done by the developers (things that they can fix in the background) and then games need sliders, and roster edits as well as difficulty settings. It is what it is now and I am not saying they should try to put it in now. This is a coding decision IMO that was setup way before Live 15 or probably even 14.

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                            • stillfeelme
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 2405

                              #89
                              Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

                              Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                              Sliders effect what's on the court....they arent to adjust the menu..

                              They could work solely on gameplay for an extra year for all I care, but they're handicapping themselves with the decision.
                              Exactly you are left with a game that plays to the final build of the dev's team point of view of Sim, arcade. It holds them back and it holds us back from improving the game. Why count on Synergy only? If Synergy doesn't work as expected the user is left playing something that sliders could have addressed.

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                              • poloelite
                                Pro
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 571

                                #90
                                They can't keep charging full price for a game that doesn't have the basic elements of a sports game in 2014 and 2015. I hate to bring up 2K, but when they began to take over, they released some of the best sports games for $20. Everyone had to try it out then. You can't tell people you're a work in progress, offer less in your package and then sit on the shelf next to a superior product and expect to keep stockholders happy with your sales. That's arrogant to expect consumers to pay you full price for something that you know is lacking. You want to gain back a fan base you have to establish good will. Live 15 for 20 or 30 dollars would be a start. Being more active here during your development helps. I may bash Live, but that's because they earned it. If they had done anything dope since Lebron left for Miami, I would've sang their praises too. This company has been making basketball games since Magic and Bird were in their primes. Cutting them slack sounds silly if they want full price. They have the ability to obtain more resources than 2K, but somehow we end up with this? They literally have their long time fans grasping for any shred positive news and footage to substantiate their fandom. The people deserve better. Their fans deserve better.
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