NBA Live 15 Shown Last Night at GameSpot Expo, Not Shown Today at All

[Inzombniac]

Re: NBA Live 15 Pulled From the Show Floor at the GameStop Expo

The footage we got is garbage. We got nothing that we can actually properly look at, same as Live. Not defending Live. It was clear it was being shown for a day.

Do I agree with showing it for a day? No, they should let people try it out but lets not act like the plan for EA to let people play for multiple days and all of sudden decided not to.

I understand why Live and EA are bashed so much and that's fine but whats with the double standard? 2K is being released in less then a month and we have no official footage. EA at least put out some official footage.

I dont expect Live 15 to be this amazing game. I just dont get how some of you can look at Live's state and be like its hopeless and not say that about 2K.

Because 2K has a track record, Live does not. I think that's what you don't understand. I'm sure there are people who simply want to bash Live to bash Live. The rest of us, WANT the game to succeed and when these constant baffling moves happen, it frustrates us. Steve doesn't have to cover the game at all but he chooses to because I'm sure he wants another basketball game to succeed too. Same with people who post in this section. It could be a ghost town but we all care enough to talk about teh game, good or bad.

2K is not hopeless. 2K is flawed but they have people WORKING on those flaws that have let us know that those flaws are fixed. Instead of posting open letters that they don't respond to, 2K have posted on these very forums answering questions about gameplay from fans. Some of the Live team have done that too but while we have no gameplay from 2K, we were told that the 1 3 1 zone is gone, zig zagging is out and the charge cheese is dead. Release day will tell the tale if that's true or not but 2K are taking care of problems that have plagued the game. Like someone mentioned earlier that vented, Live isn't taking care of problems that have been in the game for not just a couple of years now but for more than half a decade. 2K for all their faults, at least comes out on time every year and have their system down to a tee. You know what you get every year and when you're getting the info. You don't know this with Live and without a track record, people are going to doubt.

[Scarface844]

Re: NBA Live 15 Pulled From the Show Floor at the GameStop Expo

Because 2K has a track record, Live does not. I think that's what you don't understand. I'm sure there are people who simply want to bash Live to bash Live. The rest of us, WANT the game to succeed and when these constant baffling moves happen, it frustrates us. Steve doesn't have to cover the game at all but he chooses to because I'm sure he wants another basketball game to succeed too. Same with people who post in this section. It could be a ghost town but we all care enough to talk about teh game, good or bad.

2K is not hopeless. 2K is flawed but they have people WORKING on those flaws that have let us know that those flaws are fixed. Instead of posting open letters that they don't respond to, 2K have posted on these very forums answering questions about gameplay from fans. Some of the Live team have done that too but while we have no gameplay from 2K, we were told that the 1 3 1 zone is gone, zig zagging is out and the charge cheese is dead. Release day will tell the tale if that's true or not but 2K are taking care of problems that have plagued the game. Like someone mentioned earlier that vented, Live isn't taking care of problems that have been in the game for not just a couple of years now but for more than half a decade. 2K for all their faults, at least comes out on time every year and have their system down to a tee. You know what you get every year and when you're getting the info. You don't know this with Live and without a track record, people are going to doubt.

Come on. 2K hasn't been any good since 2K11. 2K doesn't have a track record. They have a better one then EA but that doesnt mean they have a "good" one. The standards are simply too low.

2K has been saying for years the zone cheese is dead, the 3pt cheese is dead. Like I said i've been reading this forum for years and its the same thing every year for both games.

2K has the same problems its had since the 2K10/2K11 days. 2K is hopeless without competition and thats what EA brings. Has Live/EA been any better? No but 2K hasn't been any good either. Tired of buying the same game every year with roster updates.

[El_Poopador]

Re: NBA Live 15 Pulled From the Show Floor at the GameStop Expo

Come on. 2K hasn't been any good since 2K11. 2K doesn't have a track record. They have a better one then EA but that doesnt mean they have a "good" one. The standards are simply too low.

2K has been saying for years the zone cheese is dead, the 3pt cheese is dead. Like I said i've been reading this forum for years and its the same thing every year for both games.

2K has the same problems its had since the 2K10/2K11 days. 2K is hopeless without competition and thats what EA brings. Has Live/EA been any better? No but 2K hasn't been any good either. Tired of buying the same game every year with roster updates.

Not agreeing or disagreeing with either side, but can we keep on topic? No need turn it into a Live vs 2k thread.

[mbrancato157]

Re: NBA Live 15 Pulled From the Show Floor at the GameStop Expo

Come on. 2K hasn't been any good since 2K11. 2K doesn't have a track record. They have a better one then EA but that doesnt mean they have a "good" one. The standards are simply too low.

[23]

Re: NBA Live 15 Pulled From the Show Floor at the GameStop Expo

Come on. 2K hasn't been any good since 2K11. 2K doesn't have a track record. They have a better one then EA but that doesnt mean they have a "good" one. The standards are simply too low.

2K has been saying for years the zone cheese is dead, the 3pt cheese is dead. Like I said i've been reading this forum for years and its the same thing every year for both games.

2K has the same problems its had since the 2K10/2K11 days. 2K is hopeless without competition and thats what EA brings. Has Live/EA been any better? No but 2K hasn't been any good either. Tired of buying the same game every year with roster updates.

First im going to address you

This is the NBA Live forums, and I've simply warned enough people to keep 2k out of here to talk about NBA Live, and you've done too much of it already.

That on top of going after the owner of the site....

Lets keep the topic on NBA LIVE and off of 2k...specifically you yourself.

Post as much as you want but you're derailing topics and it has to stop.

[jadert]

Re: NBA Live 15 Pulled From the Show Floor at the GameStop Expo

First im going to address you

This is the NBA Live forums, and I've simply warned enough people to keep 2k out of here to talk about NBA Live, and you've done too much of it already.

That on top of going after the owner of the site....

Lets keep the topic on NBA LIVE and off of 2k...specifically you yourself.

Post as much as you want but you're derailing topics and it has to stop.

Thank you! I was reading these posts like "Where in the hell is 23?" You usually stop all of the 2K talk in its tracks. You were a little late this time lol

Anyway, why does it seem like some posters have more confidence in NBA Live than the development team? If I spent a year on making something epic, I would want everybody and their mom to see it and give feedback! Whats the big secret?!!! Its just a Bball game, not area 51. If I ever made a product, I could only wish I had fans this loyal.

So Gamestop Managers say the game is good? LOL Isn't that the equivalent of AT&T employees telling me how great the Iphone is? Gotta Love It.

[alaska2k3]

NBA Live 15 Shown Last Night at GameSpot Expo, Not Shown Today at All

Edit: to stay on topic/avoid taking troll bait

The Instagram and YouTube videos do show improvement from Live 14, but IMHO,
this has yet to prove it self worthy of a $60 price tag.

Animations still look "wonky" to me, I see remnants of Live 14 still present. Arms look long, the "washed out" colors that I was in favor for from the reveal trailer and screenshots do not look visually appealing in action.

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[HoosierDaddy]

Re: NBA Live 15 Shown Last Night at GameSpot Expo, Not Shown Today at All

The court/players look pretty good in that photo..

Sorry, I tried.

[poloelite]

One of the best moves David Stern ever made was not selling exclusive rights to NBA video games. I can't imagine what we would've been playing the last 4 years if EA's deep pockets had that opportunity. Less than 2 months from release and you don't want the public to play the game at a major industry event is a bad sign.

[scottyp180]

I also wanna add another thing. I've been reading this forum for years and every year its the same thing. Excited for Live and EA to make a game, get let down, 2K comes out, gets great reviews, a month later 2K doesn't even work properly and people on this site are ready to boycott it.

Neither company seems competent enough to actually make a proper game that's fresh every year. It's the only reason why im being patient with Live 15, it's because I have no choice. I'll probably get burned again but basketball games desperately need competition.

Ok there is a vast difference in terms of functionality and quality when comparing 2k and Live. I've been playing 2k since 2k2 and there are only 2 years I can recall where the game "did not work properly". One being last year on next gen consoles where certain modes had extremely problematic bugs and a severe loading issue (which I am still unsure if it was the game itself or do to the game, more or less, requiring online access and me having a bad connection); however when it came to on court gameplay I thought it was the best nba 2k to date. The other year was 2k10 (perhaps 2k9) where the game released with a frame rate issue that made the game unplayable, however the game was fine post patch.

Live, on the other hand, hasn't had a competent release since Live 10 dropped in 2009, with 2 cancelations since. 2K isn't perfect, we will never see a perfect game of any genre, and it might not be a brand new game every year, which no sports game is, but it is a quality product year in and year out and is well worth the price of admission each year. And typically the issues with 2k are smaller in comparison to the problems Live has.

Point being, Live receives critism and skeptism for good reason. The series hasn't proven that it's worth the benefit of the doubt where as 2k has a track record of delivering. I want Live to succeed and have a quality release this year. In fact, from what has been shown, the game doesn't look as bad as some are making it seem (honestly don't know how anyone can garner an opinion from about a total of 1 gameplay minute) however EA and the Live team haven't exactly helped there cause to give us a reason to believe in them. Time will tell and if the game is good you will see people flock to Live but at this point people have good reason to be hesitant.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

Re: NBA Live 15 Shown Last Night at GameSpot Expo, Not Shown Today at All

I'm just going to stop getting over worked by anything else by EA lol. Ima pick up you know what on the 7th. And just play that and not even think about live 15 til the demo/trial drops. If it's good I'll pick it up.

[scottyp180]

First im going to address you

This is the NBA Live forums, and I've simply warned enough people to keep 2k out of here to talk about NBA Live, and you've done too much of it already.

That on top of going after the owner of the site....

Lets keep the topic on NBA LIVE and off of 2k...specifically you yourself.

Post as much as you want but you're derailing topics and it has to stop.

Sorry 23 didn't make it far enough in the thread to see your post.

[hesko]

Re: NBA Live 15 Shown Last Night at GameSpot Expo, Not Shown Today at All

Live fans, lol. Crappy as it may seem for ya'll, at least ya'll still have a game...sort of.

[Guapo516]

First im going to address you

This is the NBA Live forums, and I've simply warned enough people to keep 2k out of here to talk about NBA Live, and you've done too much of it already.

That on top of going after the owner of the site....

Lets keep the topic on NBA LIVE and off of 2k...specifically you yourself.

Post as much as you want but you're derailing topics and it has to stop.

I'm not trying to be the rick James of operation sports aka the habitual line crosser lol but what's the big deal with saying the "other games" name aka 2k. Why is it made to be taboo? Aren't we all old enough to handle that it exists?

But to his original point why is live being crucified like this? Especially by the owner of the site? It really comes off biased especially since facts are "the other game" hasn't really released much directly themselves, and what else could he compare it to?? Btw the track record does matter, it's like you know what your getting when you buy double stuff Oreos.. Mmm.. Double stuffed Oreos... Any who I'm just saying I get his point though.

Bash live for the false promises, be my guess, it'll be well deserved I'm still waiting on some blogs, but to bash live for something that was announced already? Something's fishy there.

Everybody wants information yesterday, it's the world we live in, I get it, but unless ea is somehow making this website or the owner personally look bad then he shouldn't be doing blogs bashing live. I just saw ign, another game site, get strung along by wwe 2k and promo'd it as their game of the month, and wasn't able to deliver to the fans what they promised the fans because of the games developer, and guess how much bad things ign posted about the game developer??? None! They handled it like they were supposed to.

I'm some what happy to see that the site owner is human and a fan like me, but there's a difference in our influence on people and our stature. This is similar to hip hop gamer blowing up on live last year, regardless if he was right or not it was inappropriate. Long story short it comes off a bit unprofessional, just remember you guys working on this site ain't the average fan anymore.

[MarvellousOne]

Re: NBA Live 15 Shown Last Night at GameSpot Expo, Not Shown Today at All

It's funny that the year EA heavily marketed nba live and was making regular interactions with the community was with NBA Live 10...which happened to be the highest and best rated Live since it's debut on ps3/xbox 360 systems and to no surprise we all know who was lead producer for that game. Funny how since he left to go back to EA's rival Live has never been the same again. There whole marketing culture changed. It's very sad