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  • JBulls
    Rookie
    • Sep 2013
    • 495

    #241
    Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Oklahoma City Thunder

    Originally posted by CBfromCU32
    They need more running animations
    Agreed, but they also need to get rid of some of them, some of them are just bad.

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    • Da_Czar
      NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
      • Jul 2002
      • 5408

      #242
      Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Oklahoma City Thunder

      Still nothing on gameplay officially announced so there still isn't anything I can really talk about on here.

      One question for the really experienced 2k ballers out there. Has CPU vs CPU footage ever really been a good indicator of how well a game plays ? What I mean to say is that I don't ever recall a game where out of the box the AI did a magnificent job of playing vs itself.

      Obviously that is going to take some work but the vast majority of people either play someone else or vs the AI. So just something to think about. And I am not saying there hasn't been a dope AI vs AI game out the box I just can't think of one so I am thinking it is pretty rare.

      There are a LOT of subtle things we have done on the game-play side that guys who like 2k basketball are going to enjoy. As always, and were all adults here, some stuff is not going to be fantastic in every frame of video you watch or play. It just isn't.

      I'll just say that I am very excited about some of the things we got to this year. If your looking for perfection then apologies all around as the game-play team as dope as we are ( JOKE) did not accomplish that this year.

      If your looking for improved game-play with a focus on simulation then we got a few Noice things in store.

      I am not a fan of not telling you anything and just releasing game-play from folks who don't know the nuances. But... I don't get to make that call. I realize that only really allows you to focus on what has not yet been perfected. That is natural and understandable.

      2k14 gave us a really strong base that we built upon. Iteration is the key to getting the depth I believe you guys want from your games. The down side is that all the improvements won't pop out at you immediately, some of them, like the old 2k's just kind of keep coming at you the more you play.

      Hopefully the things that bother you won't keep you from appreciating the progress we made in other area's. Again, think improved,not perfected and IF you like 2k basketball I think game-play wise this game will challenge 2k11 for the best playing hoop game around.

      Just keep in mind a lot of you couldn't appreciate how dope 2k11 was ... until 2k12 came out. LOL.

      I am hoping they let me loose soon.
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      • Goffs
        New Ork Giants
        • Feb 2003
        • 12279

        #243
        Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Oklahoma City Thunder

        Da_Czar keepin it real! I look forward to hearing the details and it sucks that the info train trickles down reaaallly sloooowly.

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        • stillfeelme
          MVP
          • Aug 2010
          • 2407

          #244
          Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Oklahoma City Thunder

          Czar,

          Man tell them to let you Mike and the gameplay team start talking the gameplay dev diaries with actual improvements. Then follow that up with 10 teams in 10 days. I seen enough at Gamescom videos to see the gameplay improvements personally. So if it plays anything similar to that with further improvements I will be fine.

          • Help defense with contesting
          • Contextual contest with animations
          • Rotation improvement
          • Pick and roll defense

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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #245
            Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Oklahoma City Thunder

            Originally posted by Goffs
            Da_Czar keepin it real! I look forward to hearing the details and it sucks that the info train trickles down reaaallly sloooowly.
            It's going to come Goffs but we'll be talking about that in other threads later. You WILL love it!

            #YourTimeHasCome

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            • ojandpizza
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2011
              • 29807

              #246
              NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Oklahoma City Thunder

              Originally posted by pdx_24
              It astonishes me that 2K still hasn't fixed the skinny arms and the coat-hanger shoulders (Phil Jackson-like). It sticks out like a sore thumb when even big muscular guys like Perkins and Ibaka have toothpicks for arms. It makes the otherwise great looking graphics look terrible.

              Come on, 2K. This is supposed to be "next gen" and we can't even get body models to look like real athletes? We need a more diverse body models, not just basically three types: super skinny, medium size (although the arms are skinny relative to the rest of the body), and super bulky (arms are skinny relative to the rest of the body).

              These "muscle guys" are still very slim/skinny compared to the average person.. Sure they are cut up like crazy and in amazing shape, but they aren't like body builder big.. Idk if you've ever been to a live NBA game to see it in person, but even LeBron looks pretty slim. They say the camera adds 10 pounds, it definitely does, and the wide screen TVs make it even worse..

              I get what you're arguing, it could be better.. But just a couple years ago everyone was bitching they were too big, this "too skinny" looks much more realistic IMO, and we won't see "perfection" until we can literally change arm size, chest size, waist size, shoulder size, etc all independently on our own.

              Just check the alternative from the EA sports videos they've released.. Everyone one has David Robinson shoulders and giant muscles emerging from their jersey when they lift their arms, it's the same complaint everyone had about 2K a couple years ago.

              For example, someone everyone complains about is Noah, but when you aren't looking at him from the side (where everyone's arm looks biggest) his arm really isn't that big.


              And for comparisons here, not on the basketball court, his forearm isn't any bigger than this girls.


              These guys in general just aren't near as big as what everyone thinks they are from watching TV. There are a certain few who are, but 90% of the league is not.. We don't need a game where everyone looks like Karl Malone, far more inaccurate than a select few players looking "too skinny".


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              • rbfn04
                Rookie
                • Sep 2012
                • 90

                #247
                I'll be honest, in context that Varejão satanding around thing doesn't bother me that much. Kyrie made a beeline straight to him. Seen guys give their PG room to go after a broken play. Not perfect, but not that crazy either,

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                • tsbmolina
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1291

                  #248
                  Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Oklahoma City Thunder

                  There is no such thing as Perfection in videogames! The NBA 2K team knows this and that's what keeps them focused and motivated on improving the game every year.This to me is why I think it's the best sports game in existence. They know there is always room for improvement and strive for it year after year. Also keep in mind guys they are working on a short dev cycle compared to games like GTA. What they manage to add in such a short time frame is remarkable to me.
                  Last edited by tsbmolina; 09-12-2014, 10:09 AM.

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                  • rbfn04
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 90

                    #249
                    @ojandpizza

                    maybe 2K can implement what PES used to(? no idea been a while since I bought a new soccer game) have where you can adjust chest, arms, legs thickness...

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                    • GisherJohn24
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 4596

                      #250
                      Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Oklahoma City Thunder

                      Originally posted by ojandpizza
                      These "muscle guys" are still very slim/skinny compared to the average person.. Sure they are cut up like crazy and in amazing shape, but they aren't like body builder big.. Idk if you've ever been to a live NBA game to see it in person, but even LeBron looks pretty slim. They say the camera adds 10 pounds, it definitely does, and the wide screen TVs make it even worse..

                      I get what you're arguing, it could be better.. But just a couple years ago everyone was bitching they were too big, this "too skinny" looks much more realistic IMO, and we won't see "perfection" until we can literally change arm size, chest size, waist size, shoulder size, etc all independently on our own.

                      Just check the alternative from the EA sports videos they've released.. Everyone one has David Robinson shoulders and giant muscles emerging from their jersey when they lift their arms, it's the same complaint everyone had about 2K a couple years ago.

                      For example, someone everyone complains about is Noah, but when you aren't looking at him from the side (where everyone's arm looks biggest) his arm really isn't that big.


                      And for comparisons here, not on the basketball court, his forearm isn't any bigger than this girls.


                      These guys in general just aren't near as big as what everyone thinks they are from watching TV. There are a certain few who are, but 90% of the league is not.. We don't need a game where everyone looks like Karl Malone, far more inaccurate than a select few players looking "too skinny".


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                      • SageInfinite
                        Stop The GOAT Talk
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 11896

                        #251
                        Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Oklahoma City Thunder

                        Originally posted by 24ct
                        Varejao hair wasn't moving...and I didn't see if he was scanned but I doubt it...
                        It wasn't close enough to tell.
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                        • GisherJohn24
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 4596

                          #252
                          Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Oklahoma City Thunder

                          Originally posted by tsbmolina
                          There is no such thing as Perfection in videogames! The NBA 2K team knows this and that's what keeps them focused and motivated on improving the game every year.This to me is why I think it's the best sports game in existence. They know there is always room for improvement and strive for it year after year. Also keep in mind guys they are working on a short dev cycle compared to games like GTA. What they manage to add in such a short time frame is remarkable to me.
                          The gameplay has always been 2ks saving grace imo. Best sports game ever made . 2k14 was buggy online to boot but the gameplay always made me come back no matter what. It mimics the real game as close as a fan could possibly want

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                          • J_Posse
                            Greatness Personified
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 11255

                            #253
                            Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Oklahoma City Thunder

                            I thought the video was solid and the game looks extremely promising. Won't over analyze such a short video, but I believe people's expectations are just way too high.

                            Year - to - year the NBA 2K series won't drastically change (much like other annual releases like Assassin's Creed or Call or Duty), but over time will make steady improvements and expand the game in different ways. Just the way it is going to be with an annual sports title, fellas. Especially one that is so unique and difficult to recreate like NBA basketball.

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                            Last edited by J_Posse; 09-12-2014, 11:13 AM.
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                            • ojandpizza
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 29807

                              #254
                              NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Oklahoma City Thunder

                              Originally posted by J_Posse
                              I thought the video was solid and the game looks extremely promising. Won't over analyze such a short video, but I believe people's expectations are just way too high.

                              Year - to - year the NBA 2K series won't drastically change (much like other annual releases like Assassin's Creed or Call or Duty), but over time will make steady improvements and expand the game in different ways. Just the way it is going to be with annual sport titles, fellas. Especially one that is so unique and difficult to recreate like NBA basketball.

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                              Exactly.. It's not like they take 4 years off like GTA to make such large leaps and bounds. IMO they do a pretty damn good job.


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                              • J_Posse
                                Greatness Personified
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 11255

                                #255
                                Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Oklahoma City Thunder

                                Originally posted by ojandpizza
                                Exactly.. It's not like they take 4 years off like GTA to make such large leaps and bounds. IMO they do a pretty damn good job.


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                                Yet, even the core gameplay in GTA has remained the same over the last decade and a half. The technology and graphical fidelity have just improved in leaps and bounds around it, IMO. I still love the hell out of both (GTA & NBA 2K) titles, though.

                                The many places the series can still make huge improvements (IMO) is in artificial intelligence, play calling, individual team offensive/defensive systems, collision detection/player interactions/physics, more expansive player moves/animations, re-introducing the D - League and bringing back the Summer (League) Circuit into MyCareer/MyGM/MyLeague.

                                Pretty big list and I think most will be addressed or improved throughout this console cycle. Even still, the game will never be perfect or please everyone but I'll be happy with no missteps like NBA 2K4.

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                                Last edited by J_Posse; 09-12-2014, 11:27 AM.
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