NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (Outconsumer)

[WTF]

Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (Outconsu

Very questionable how you're not critical of Live's shoddy animations but are so quick to point out something on 2Ks front. Your points of critique between the two are completely soaked in bias or you're just truly blind to Live's glaring flaws. And in that case I just feel sorry for you homie. How much do you get paid by EA to brainwash some of the other users on this site?

Great comeback man. Seriously, I applaud your efforts. I've been a 2k guy for many years, and bashed Live at release last year until the patches.

Animations aren't my concern. I can go back and play NBA Inside Drive 2004 to this day due to the AI in it. I could care less about animations. It could be why I could accept Live last year and some couldn't.

It's also why I don't like the animation heavy gameplay that Next Gen 2k14 presented. Once I start losing control of my player, and the game sends me into an animation that it thinks that I need to do, that's the point where I start to get frustrated. On defense especially.

And now I have magical power to brainwash people? I've been on OS for many years. I've given pages upon pages of suggestions and criticisms to the developers of the NBA 2k series, the NBA Live Series, the NBA Inside Drive series. The only one I never had an interest in was Sony's series. I bought it, played it, and it wasn't worth the time because it wasn't something that I enjoyed.

I've admitted several Live flaws. Luckily, I didn't have the issues that a lot of guys did thankfully.

I'm really not sure why you care if I post on an open forum about my thoughts on a videogame that you have ZERO involvement in.

When:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1391694084409621&l=2229379011921365904

This is fixed, I'll probably be a happy camper with 2k. Stuff like those canned animations that take me out of position as a defender so the offense can score, is ridiculous to ME. If you can live with that type of stuff, that's fine. But there's no issue with me posting to 2k, a company that I used to talk to quite frequently, and expressing my dissatisfaction.

I'd much rather have wonky animations as opposed to animations that take me out of playing the game, instead watching a scenario play out.

[SageInfinite]

Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (Outconsu

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1391694084409621&l=2229379011921365904

This is fixed, I'll probably be a happy camper with 2k. Stuff like those canned animations that take me out of position as a defender so the offense can score, is ridiculous to ME. If you can live with that type of stuff, that's fine. But there's no issue with me posting to 2k, a company that I used to talk to quite frequently, and expressing my dissatisfaction.

I'd much rather have wonky animations as opposed to animations that take me out of playing the game, instead watching a scenario play out.

That footage was just disgusting. Let me guess, you were on defense?

[WTF]

Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (Outconsu

This is why I made a previous post about the other game NEEDING to exist. They really cater to different audiences. 2K is mainstream and the other game is more niche oriented. I'm coming to that conclusion via Metacritic, sales, and reviews for both games. Basketball gamers overwhelmly choose 2K, but the other game has a cult following.

I love 2K's gameplay and I'm excited at what I've seen in the video. There are pros and cons as usual, but the pros outweigh the cons for me. I hope I didn't offend you with my last post it was sort of tongue in cheek, since I see the top 5 NBA Live posters on this board cosigning all of the negative aspects of 2K.

I am curious as to why you would buy both games with the same things each year driving you insane. Why not just stick to NBA Live? Do you even like 2K? Or is it an automatic purchase because its a basketball game? Not being an ***, just wondering

They do cater to different audiences I guess. Yet you can't enjoy both for some reason? I like some aspects of one, some aspects of another, but apparently that isn't allowed at OS anymore. Not to be old school, but I'm sure you remember a time where guys enjoyed both games for what they brought to the table since you were around in 2002 as well.

The things that have been driving me insane in 2k was amplified with 2k14 Next Gen last year. I recently played 2k14 last gen, and the controls seemed somewhat tighter, felt more of a 1:1 control, and I didn't get trapped in as many animations.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1391694084409621&l=2229379011921365904

This is the thing that killed my experience. It happens several time a game. Either that, or I'll block a guy and they'll get it back while I lose all control of my player. Even worse, I'll be guarding someone, and I'll lose control and slide out of bounds, into the mop boy, or the base of the basket only to lose control for 3-4 seconds while I stumble around.

The spacing felt worse because of the lack of tightness in the controls.

Now, because I get to work alongside with EA developers, I'm no longer allowed to give my insight for 2k at the risk of being burnt at the stake by guys in this forum?

Live 08, 09 and 10 were good games to me. As were 2k9, 2k10 and 2k11 especially. I want 2k go back to a tighter level of control, and less of a overwhelming amount of animations. I think that'll help with spacing, as well as a lot of other issues that I have with the game.

Based on my discussions, I feel like a lot of it will be toned down in 2k this year, which is music to my ears. If I can enjoy 2 games this year, that's awesome. To ME, that's all I can ask for.

[WTF]

Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (Outconsu

That footage was just disgusting. Let me guess, you were on defense?

Yep. Sure was. No matter what way I went, he pushes me into a different canimation that takes me away. I recover just in time to do it again.

For whatever reason, I saw a TON of those types of plays. It could've been sliders, could have been something else, but it ruined it for me.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (Outconsu

As long as Live fans can acknowledge this:

http://youtu.be/wDQ2h8P6-Cg

http://youtu.be/vr3R3JxCqBo

while typing up their posts about how bad morphing, shifting etc. in 2k is...it's all good...it just hurts your credibility when you turn a blind eye to this stuff in one game but it makes you want to throw your controller in the other..

and this is just speaking in general...nor directed or disrespect to WTF or anyone else...

[WTF]

Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (Outconsu

As long as Live fans can acknowledge this:

http://youtu.be/wDQ2h8P6-Cg

http://youtu.be/vr3R3JxCqBo

while typing up their posts about how bad morphing, shifting etc. in 2k is...it's all good...it just hurts your credibility when you turn a blind eye to this stuff in one game but it makes you want to throw your controller in the other..

and this is just speaking in general...nor directed or disrespect to WTF or anyone else...

I'd acknowledge that a fair amount of that happens in Live 14. No disrespect at all 24th.

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (Outconsu

I'd acknowledge that a fair amount of that happens in Live 14. No disrespect at all 24th.

But I doubt you acknowledge it enough to post it like you did the 2K video above. Pretty much the same kind of issue, but it's OK in one game, but not the other. Not surprising.

[WTF]

Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (Outconsu

But I doubt you acknowledge it enough to post like did the video above.

Do I think what 24th posted is anywhere near the issue in comparison to the clip I posted? Nope.

Do I acknowledge that what 24th posted exists, yep.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (Outconsu

I'd acknowledge that a fair amount of that happens in Live 14. No disrespect at all 24th.

No doubt man...

Doesnt matter to me what anyones preference is....tbh

I just try to call it like I see it. Hey, I made more Live mixes than 2k last year because I was intrigued by the game...lol



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[Boilerbuzz]

Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (Outconsu

Do I think what 24th posted is anywhere near the issue in comparison to the clip I posted? Nope.

Do I acknowledge that what 24th posted exists, yep.

OK then. There's nothing more that needs to be said. But I think we all know that if a video campaign against Live 14 were to be waged, it'd be pretty easy to find quite a bit of ammo.

[El_Poopador]

Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (Outconsu

OK then. There's nothing more that needs to be said. But I think we all know that if a video campaign against Live 14 were to be waged, it'd be pretty easy to find quite a bit of ammo.

I think the same can be said for just about any game lol.

[DikembeShikembe]

Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (Outconsu

[quote=WTF;2046591008]
Animations aren't my concern. I can go back and play NBA Inside Drive 2004 to this day due to the AI in it. I could care less about animations.[quote]
I'm actually crying laughing bruh. I'M DEAD:

INSIDE DRIVE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deAEGv_HECg

Like you think A.I. logic hasn't improved since 2003 and is present in current-gen 2K?

It's also why I don't like the animation heavy gameplay that Next Gen 2k14 presented. Once I start losing control of my player, and the game sends me into an animation that it thinks that I need to do, that's the point where I start to get frustrated. On defense especially.

Stop it. You act like with one flick of the right stick you lose all control and all hell breaks lose and drives you insane. Way to completely sice things up. The defender clipping issues are a rare occurrence. Plus, I actually think you're lying and you're controlling Nate in that clip because I've never seen the CPU just continually press forward. It looks like it was your fault that you didn't step back to size up correctly and make a isomotion move. Sus. But everything you say is sus so I guess we'll never know.

I've admitted several Live flaws. Luckily, I didn't have the issues that a lot of guys did thankfully.

Nope.. haven't seen it. This is just too weird. So you have problems with the 2K series that a lot of people don't have and when almost everyone has a problem w something from Live you defend it.. hmmmmm.

I'm really not sure why you care if I post on an open forum about my thoughts on a videogame that you have ZERO involvement in.

I don't care if you buy Live. It just gets annoying when you see blatant homerism towards a franchise ON A REPEATED BASIS. This isn't a one time thing. It's an ALWAYS THING. Stop frequenting the 2K boards if you're just gonna add on to the negativity. It's ridiculous dude. Seriously.

Anything negative about 2K that someone brings up, "WTF likes this"

Someone says something good about Live; "WTF likes this"

[WTF]

Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (Outconsu

Apparently anyone who disagrees with the norm are ridiculed around OS now, and it's looked over without issue.

Ah well, thus is life. I guess I'll go back to my life as normal. You all got me good,

[Hooe]

Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (Outconsu

One-time warning:

A difference in opinion does not warrant a personal attack. Personal attacks are not permitted on this forum and will be dealt with accordingly as per the Terms of Service.

Thanks for your future cooperation. Carry on.

[jadert]

Re: NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (Outconsu

They do cater to different audiences I guess. Yet you can't enjoy both for some reason? I like some aspects of one, some aspects of another, but apparently that isn't allowed at OS anymore. Not to be old school, but I'm sure you remember a time where guys enjoyed both games for what they brought to the table since you were around in 2002 as well.

The things that have been driving me insane in 2k was amplified with 2k14 Next Gen last year. I recently played 2k14 last gen, and the controls seemed somewhat tighter, felt more of a 1:1 control, and I didn't get trapped in as many animations.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1391694084409621&l=2229379011921365904

This is the thing that killed my experience. It happens several time a game. Either that, or I'll block a guy and they'll get it back while I lose all control of my player. Even worse, I'll be guarding someone, and I'll lose control and slide out of bounds, into the mop boy, or the base of the basket only to lose control for 3-4 seconds while I stumble around.

The spacing felt worse because of the lack of tightness in the controls.

Now, because I get to work alongside with EA developers, I'm no longer allowed to give my insight for 2k at the risk of being burnt at the stake by guys in this forum?

Live 08, 09 and 10 were good games to me. As were 2k9, 2k10 and 2k11 especially. I want 2k go back to a tighter level of control, and less of a overwhelming amount of animations. I think that'll help with spacing, as well as a lot of other issues that I have with the game.

Based on my discussions, I feel like a lot of it will be toned down in 2k this year, which is music to my ears. If I can enjoy 2 games this year, that's awesome. To ME, that's all I can ask for.

Thanks for replying, I wasn't trying to be an internet tough guy, I was just wondering about your interest in 2K. I was around when people routinely bought both games. 2k4/Live04 up to 2k8/Live08 people pretty much bought both games. The '09 series of games shifted OS seriously with a big divide. I stopped posting because everything was an attack on people, developers or games. Now I see the moderators are really cracking down and it makes for more civil discussion.

I'm buying both games. I will get live later on (discounted) to play online since I don't believe that 2K will fix their frequent server issues. 2K is a day 1 purchase since I don't believe that EA will fix their animation issues. I 've been around a while lol