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  • tessl
    All Star
    • Apr 2007
    • 5651

    #1

    It's a shame the lawyers can't get this figured out

    I'm playing Madden but I much preferred NCAA with recruiting and teambuilder. The game ended just prior to the next gen machines.

    I wonder if there is a chance this will end up in the supreme court and get overruled?
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  • cusefan74
    MVP
    • Jul 2010
    • 2416

    #2
    Re: It's a shame the lawyers can't get this figured out

    I don't think it will get overruled. I also don't think we will see another NCAA game. Now they are saying players in the NCAA can be compensated for their likeness, and they kills it right there. No way they can make money on that and in the end, that's what it's about.

    Maybe down the road in a few years, but don't hold your breath for anything in the near future.

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    • tessl
      All Star
      • Apr 2007
      • 5651

      #3
      Re: It's a shame the lawyers can't get this figured out

      Originally posted by cusefan74
      I don't think it will get overruled. I also don't think we will see another NCAA game. Now they are saying players in the NCAA can be compensated for their likeness, and they kills it right there. No way they can make money on that and in the end, that's what it's about.

      Maybe down the road in a few years, but don't hold your breath for anything in the near future.
      My brain knows you are right but my heart says there must be a way around this. Maybe completely generic rosters with no resemblance to actual players, but that probably would be met with lawsuits.

      I figure the only way is for the supreme court to get the case and overturn all of part of the lower court ruling.
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      • fballturkey
        MVP
        • Jul 2011
        • 2380

        #4
        Re: It's a shame the lawyers can't get this figured out

        Originally posted by cusefan74
        I don't think it will get overruled. I also don't think we will see another NCAA game. Now they are saying players in the NCAA can be compensated for their likeness, and they kills it right there. No way they can make money on that and in the end, that's what it's about.

        Maybe down the road in a few years, but don't hold your breath for anything in the near future.
        Some money is better than no money, so if it all shakes out that they can pay for players likeness they probably will come to some agreement with whoever the players license their image out to. It won't be a ton of money and might hardly be any, but like I said, some is better than none.
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        • mjavon
          MVP
          • Jul 2013
          • 1518

          #5
          Re: It's a shame the lawyers can't get this figured out

          Originally posted by fballturkey
          Some money is better than no money, so if it all shakes out that they can pay for players likeness they probably will come to some agreement with whoever the players license their image out to. It won't be a ton of money and might hardly be any, but like I said, some is better than none.

          True, but as I understand, only the "Power Five" conferences can decide to pay players. That leaves out half of the FBS schools.
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          • tessl
            All Star
            • Apr 2007
            • 5651

            #6
            Re: It's a shame the lawyers can't get this figured out

            Originally posted by mjavon
            True, but as I understand, only the "Power Five" conferences can decide to pay players. That leaves out half of the FBS schools.
            True, and unlike the pro sports there is no union to sign an agreement with.
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            • cusefan74
              MVP
              • Jul 2010
              • 2416

              #7
              Re: It's a shame the lawyers can't get this figured out

              Right now it's to much of a hassle, I would think, for them to try and make another game.

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              • WeWereGiants
                Rookie
                • May 2012
                • 297

                #8
                Re: It's a shame the lawyers can't get this figured out

                Originally posted by cusefan74
                I don't think it will get overruled. I also don't think we will see another NCAA game. Now they are saying players in the NCAA can be compensated for their likeness, and they kills it right there. No way they can make money on that and in the end, that's what it's about.

                Maybe down the road in a few years, but don't hold your breath for anything in the near future.
                I wonder if the cost of paying the players would be outweighed by any potential added profit from the fact that the game would ship with real rosters, faces, etc.
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                • cusefan74
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 2416

                  #9
                  Re: It's a shame the lawyers can't get this figured out

                  Originally posted by WeWereGiants
                  I wonder if the cost of paying the players would be outweighed by any potential added profit from the fact that the game would ship with real rosters, faces, etc.

                  I don't think real rosters would make a difference.

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                  • dxdude2004
                    Pro
                    • May 2010
                    • 864

                    #10
                    Re: It's a shame the lawyers can't get this figured out

                    I don't like this whole "Power 5" nonsense, especially with how teams in the Big Ten are performing (I should know, lol).

                    What if I'm a great player, highly recruited, but I want to go to Northern Illinois? Or what if I want to go to an FCS school, say, NORTH DAKOTA STATE (back-to-back-to-back(?) national champions)??? I just don't understand, lol.
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                    • blazer003
                      Uber Blazer/Beaver Fan
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 243

                      #11
                      Re: It's a shame the lawyers can't get this figured out

                      The NCAA decided not to re-up with EA, but if EA could broker a deal, there's no reason why they couldn't ship a game with completely generic players and numbers, that just have ratings that might approximate the general skills of the real player (or even not). They could keep in roster share, I believe legally they aren't responsible for what the end user does with the game, and we can download the rosters. The only downside is that playing online would be with generic rosters. But that's all just speculation on my part. It could be more complicated.

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                      • billysims
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 590

                        #12
                        Re: It's a shame the lawyers can't get this figured out

                        Originally posted by fballturkey
                        Some money is better than no money, so if it all shakes out that they can pay for players likeness they probably will come to some agreement with whoever the players license their image out to. It won't be a ton of money and might hardly be any, but like I said, some is better than none.
                        Unfortunately for us, it doesn't really work that way though. EA is a publicly held company, and stockholders buy invest based on a number of factors, chief among them profitability. If they sell alot of products (and this game probably represents a significant % of their previous sales) at a lower margin, it inevitably eats into their profitability and affects shareholder value, stock price, etc. As much as we don't want to hear it as consumers, any public company ultimately is driven to deliver shareholder value first and foremost.

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