NBA Live 15 Player Ratings Revealed - Top 5 Point Guards

[gamingsinceatari]

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Well statistically speaking steph curry was probably one of the best pgs in the league last year... So i agree with the ratings. John wall took his team to the second round and statistically was better than kyrie, so to say that kyrie should be rated above him is foolery. Damien Lillard is super clutch, so I agree with him being an 89. Tony Parker I like his rating as well because he isnt great in any one aspect but instead decent in everything

We are talking OVERALL not statistically. Listen I know what Curry excels at and and what he doesn't (and i never said kyrie should be rated above him). If he was rated correctly he would be rated high in scoring and passing and rated low on defense. Which would not result in such a high OVERALL rating. Which makes me think he is overrated in some areas. Many of you think playoff and team success automatically should raise a player's OVERALL rating, but that's not the case. Makes me further appreciate the fact that I can edit the 2k rosters whenever I want.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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It's a new rating formula . We don't know how or what the individual numbers are and how they affect the overall

[King_B_Mack]

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Let's just hope they actually stick to their schedule this year and not try to convince us that we haven't seen their release schedule already.

[arkhamRejek]

woah no kyrie Irving

[P-Dub]

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woah no kyrie Irving

Especially since he was on the cover last year.

[SaintBrees]

Exact my point about parker. Don't understand why ppl tend to throw in rings when the discussion is about ratings.

Obviously Parker would be ranked the highest if we we're talking about it all time



Laughing at all the ppl on twitter talkingaabout they won't buy live because of ratings loo

Ok one thing you're not taking into account is stats don't tell the whole story. Of course Parker isn't going to average 20 & 10 in pops system. First off he doesn't play enough minutes and second the ball gets pass around so much Parker isn't needed to put up those kind of numbers. But, he can on any given night he needs to. And I didn't say I'm not buying live just on one rating, I said it was one reason of many. Live has been irrelevant since the ps2 days.

[whoahello]

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This is nba live ppl , not 2k they rate players differently

lol yep and it shows how little they know about basketball.

[Sundown]

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I have to say Curry looks really good from that angle. Even better than 2K Curry.

Damn.

[Sundown]

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We are talking OVERALL not statistically. Listen I know what Curry excels at and and what he doesn't (and i never said kyrie should be rated above him). If he was rated correctly he would be rated high in scoring and passing and rated low on defense. Which would not result in such a high OVERALL rating. Which makes me think he is overrated in some areas. Many of you think playoff and team success automatically should raise a player's OVERALL rating, but that's not the case. Makes me further appreciate the fact that I can edit the 2k rosters whenever I want.

Curry's the second best PG in the league. His defensive woes are exaggerated for a position where poor defense hurts you the least. He's average to below average but he at least tries, unlike Harden.

And no, Westbrook and Parker are not much better as defenders, and certainly not Kyrie. Westbrook looks better because of his athleticism and gambles, but advanced stats don't bear out that he's very good at defense at all.

[thesniper321]

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I'm a blazers fan but come on dame shouldn't be 5 points ahead of wall, both should be like a 86.

. Ok

[gamingsinceatari]

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Curry's the second best PG in the league. His defensive woes are exaggerated for a position where poor defense hurts you the least. He's average to below average but he at least tries, unlike Harden.

And no, Westbrook and Parker are not much better as defenders, and certainly not Kyrie. Westbrook looks better because of his athleticism and gambles, but advanced stats don't bear out that he's very good at defense at all.

Westbrook isnt a better defender than Curry? Wow... IM DONE!

[seanhazz1]

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If the ratings ARE coming from Synergy, there should be no debate. The stats DO tell the whole story when you analyze all of the stats, no just shooting and defense. Tendencies, efficiency, plus/minus, WARP, PER, where they shoot from, where they are successful shooting from, when they drive, and a bunch of other statistically driven ratings will be (hopefully) provided by Synergy Sports Technology to be used in LIVE 15.

WARP by definition accounts for wins the player adds to his team, PER is the efficiency rating, the other stats are the in-game production numbers that drive these ratings which have proven to be very accurate. If a guy is a clutch player his clutch stats are recorded and reflected via Synergy. After comparing the top 6 NBA PG side by side, I'd say EA has the order right, even if we don't all agree on the overall rating.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=curryst01&y1=2014&p2=westbru01&y2=2014&p3=irvinky01&y3=2014&p4=walljo01&y4=2014&p5=parketo01&y5=2014&p6=paulch01&y6=2014#per_game::none

Any source of LIVE player rating not taking real efficiency numbers into account are not accurate for sim purposes. Live is attempting to produce a SIM product based on real numbers no some anointed roster guru, that should not require roster skills edits at all from the player fanbase. Isn't that what we want?, a SIM product?

The accuracy of the data that drives the in game rating for the players this year, and how they are reflected by in game ratings has yet to be seen or explained in depth, which would help establish fact over opinion concerning the released ratings.

[bigeastbumrush]

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If the ratings ARE coming from Synergy, there should be no debate. The stats DO tell the whole story when you analyze all of the stats, no just shooting and defense. Tendencies, efficiency, plus/minus, WARP, PER, where they shoot from, where they are successful shooting from, when they drive, and a bunch of other statistically driven ratings will be (hopefully) provided by Synergy Sports Technology to be used in LIVE 15.

WARP by definition accounts for wins the player adds to his team, PER is the efficiency rating, the other stats are the in-game production numbers that drive these ratings which have proven to be very accurate. If a guy is a clutch player his clutch stats are recorded and reflected via Synergy. After comparing the top 6 NBA PG side by side, I'd say EA has the order right, even if we don't all agree on the overall rating.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=curryst01&y1=2014&p2=westbru01&y2=2014&p3=irvinky01&y3=2014&p4=walljo01&y4=2014&p5=parketo01&y5=2014&p6=paulch01&y6=2014#per_game::none

Any source of LIVE player rating not taking real efficiency numbers into account are not accurate for sim purposes. Live is attempting to produce a SIM product based on real numbers no some anointed roster guru, that should not require roster skills edits at all from the player fanbase. Isn't that what we want?, a SIM product?

The accuracy of the data that drives the in game rating for the players this year, and how they are reflected by in game ratings has yet to be seen or explained in depth, which would help establish fact over opinion concerning the released ratings.

You're trying to simplify something in some sort of perfect world scenario.

Synergy is not some end-all, be-all.

It should be a foundation, yes. But just pumping Synergy data into their software and thinking that means it's "SIM" is just not realistic.

Just like computer BCS college football rankings don't tell you the whole story, neither do Synergy statistics.

Roster editing just like slider tweaking are Options that customize the user's experience.

If they want to handcuff the consumer, then they should exit producing sports games to go make scripted RPGs.

[23]

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If you've ever edited this game before then you would never make that statement.

This games ratings have been jacked up since live 06 on the 360.

[GudStuffzz]

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Chris Paul - 91
Stephen Curry - 88
Russell Westbrook - 88
John Wall - 85
Damian Lillard - 84