Check out Pharrell Williams in NBA 2K15

[The 24th Letter]

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MyPlayer never really entered fictional narrative until MyCareer. MyPlayer let you tell/enact most of your own story. It gave you the NBA experience without making you not you except where necessary for interview dialogue. But you had enough control that it was just an unfortunate limitation of the technology that you couldn't have your own voice in the game. But when they take over your personality and your thoughts... The "My" story becomes a lot less interesting and compelling (in addition to questionable dialogue quality itself).

To you it isn't. Just like older iteration wasn't compelling to me. As, I mentioned before, I couldn't make it 10 games w\o getting bored with the repetitive nature. We should stop speaking in these absolutes like one represents all of our experiences. As far as the narrative, It was always fiction to me...Having a billboard with my name and face on them, my own custom shoe, endorsements etc. That's about as fiction as it gets for me. This is just another part of that for me.

[Sundown]

Check out Pharrell Williams in NBA 2K15

To you it isn't. Just like older iteration wasn't compelling to me. As, I mentioned before, I couldn't make it 10 games w\o getting bored with the repetitive nature. We should stop speaking in these absolutes like one represents all of our experiences. As far as the narrative, It was always fiction to me...Having a billboard with my name and face on them, my own custom shoe, endorsements etc. That's about as fiction as it gets for me. This is just another part of that for me.

Point is the past games had elements and a structure that could have been enhanced by the narrative elements, rather than completely co-opted by them (and sometimes badly).

And yes, billboards of ourselves is fiction-- but it's wish fullfilment fantasy. Versus a fiction where you are simply not you and your decisions and NBA elements are taken away to serve that not-you narrative. There's a huge distinction there. You're totally cool with less NBA authenticity and your personality co-opted by a questionable actor because you're not an NBA player anyway?

I mean if we follow the logical end of your argument, and any divergence from reality is equal, then we might as well have The 24th Letter be represented by a mushroom that talks like a 60's robot.

The point some of us are making aren't just to crap on the mode for its own sake. It's to hopefully offer thoughts on how to execute what should obviously be the goal-- the ultimate wish fullfilment of us as NBA players, where we retain as much or as little of ourselves as we want, because the latter is key to making the illusion work. I don't see how anyone can not want that.

And these are obviously our thoughts and opinions. Ones we feel strong enough and have thought about long enough to feel confident expressing and debating about. Feel free to disagree, but I don't think we need to postfix IMO after everything.

[NxckBrxdlvy]

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anyone up for starting a thread about mycareer suggestions for 2K16? I think the main issue is people like myself want a career that we actually control and represents us. While others get so tired of the repetitive nature of the old myplayer mode.

[da ThRONe]

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To you it isn't. Just like older iteration wasn't compelling to me. As, I mentioned before, I couldn't make it 10 games w\o getting bored with the repetitive nature. We should stop speaking in these absolutes like one represents all of our experiences. As far as the narrative, It was always fiction to me...Having a billboard with my name and face on them, my own custom shoe, endorsements etc. That's about as fiction as it gets for me. This is just another part of that for me.

I think the problem with getting bored was the repetitive limitation the mode had back then. I don't think they did a good job in capturing the "fun" in building your athlete or the importance of fitting into a system while playing.


As far as having a billboard, shoe endorsements, etc. How is that any different from what the vast number of highly rated rookies experience? Sure some of the accolades came far too easily and quickly, but the concept is right on par with being a high draft pick.

[SteboSSK]

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Why is he getting a pass for pretty much ripping Jay Kay from Jamiroquai's style? Like Jamiroquai hasn't sold 30M records. FOH Pharrell

[jadert]

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The problem with all of these "MyPlayer experts" is that awful acting or bad scripting are opinions. 2K always adds a little extra to everything, like perfect hair weaves for cheerleaders lol. That's what they do. Everyone has a different experience with Myplayer. Some don't want cut scenes, they just want to play the season, get their grades and move on. Most love cut scenes. A friend of mine was really upset that the ps3 didn't get them in 2K14. He bought a PS4 just to have the cutscenes and MyGm etc.

Can you imagine that on the OS board? Someone bought a PS4 just for the MyPlayer cutscenes. I'm not kidding either. If you looked at the last gen board upon release, you would find some of the same sentiments.

Don't take 2K too seriously. Its just a video game mode. I know we all want the most realistic experience possible, but that varies from person to person. At the end of the day, we are all playing a video game. If you want a barebones NBA game, there is one coming out of 10/28.

[The 24th Letter]

Check out Pharrell Williams in NBA 2K15

That is likely the crux of the issue. How divorced from reality is too divorced from reality? If talking to LeBron James and absorbing his signature dunk by osmosis on an empty court prior to a game is too divorced from reality for some, is that okay? And do gamers really want no other choice than to partake in those exchanges in this mode? Just because we establish a mode as a work of fiction, is there no line? Is it all fair game?

Before, MyPlayer seemed to be the short name for, "What if you tried to make it to the NBA and you did? And it was about you in an authentic NBA world just trying to succeed and clear your own path as you saw fit?" Now, MyCareer feels like, "What if you were in this wacky alternate NBA universe where you spoke only in awful cliches and stunted dialogue that you had no control over, and a lot of the real things of the NBA didn't even exist anymore, and stuff just kind of happened because, you know, fiction?".

Well yeah, when you only use a hyperbole for one side it sounds crazy...

I definitely don't want to spend time in HS, AAU, multiple years of college, and hours playing virtual training mini games because you know- realism lol

[Clappington]

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The problem with all of these "MyPlayer experts" is that awful acting or bad scripting are opinions. 2K always adds a little extra to everything, like perfect hair weaves for cheerleaders lol. That's what they do. Everyone has a different experience with Myplayer. Some don't want cut scenes, they just want to play the season, get their grades and move on. Most love cut scenes. A friend of mine was really upset that the ps3 didn't get them in 2K14. He bought a PS4 just to have the cutscenes and MyGm etc.

Can you imagine that on the OS board? Someone bought a PS4 just for the MyPlayer cutscenes. I'm not kidding either. If you looked at the last gen board upon release, you would find some of the same sentiments.

Don't take 2K too seriously. Its just a video game mode. I know we all want the most realistic experience possible, but that varies from person to person. At the end of the day, we are all playing a video game. If you want a barebones NBA game, there is one coming out of 10/28.

I got the Xbox One Mainly for the Graphics and saw that 2k had a story mode and when they showed the opening scene of 2k14 mycareer I was hype and wanted a X1 right then. that sold me for next gen. and I know lots of people like this also, I agree with everything you've stated.

[ImaFreeThinker]

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Don't take 2K too seriously. Its just a video game mode... At the end of the day, we are all playing a video game

The 1982 mentality towards video games still persists I see. LoL...You and my Grandpa should hang out.

[SPRINGS03]

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Well yeah, when you only use a hyperbole for one side it sounds crazy...

I definitely don't want to spend time in HS, AAU, multiple years of college, and hours playing virtual training mini games because you know- realism lol

Come on, you know he didn't mean that, now you're using hyperbole for the other side lol. And the way it was before the story seemed fine,you know,where you just played through a draft combine,or rookie showcase and had to build up your skills and earn playing time. I like that too, and i would like it if they would stop forcing players to have to become the next Michael jordan to be successful in the mode.

There's nothing wrong with adding touches like celebrities talking about you, or getting mentions, billboards, endorsements. All that is fine. But the way it is now feels heavy handed and cringe worthy, it feels like 2k is trying too hard to be cool and "hip" in this mode sometimes. I mean some people like cheesy stuff, that's ok(hell i love the old mortal kombat movies as bad as those are). But i think it's pretty easy to see why some people could find this gimmicky. There needs to be more subtlety.

[VDusen04]

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Well yeah, when you only use a hyperbole for one side it sounds crazy...

I definitely don't want to spend time in HS, AAU, multiple years of college, and hours playing virtual training mini games because you know- realism lol

I am uncertain as to how this response adequately addresses my previous post.

[jadert]

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The 1982 mentality towards video games still persists I see. LoL...You and my Grandpa should hang out.

Yes, being an adult does give you that mentality. I live in the real world with real issues, not MYplayer ones.

[The 24th Letter]

Check out Pharrell Williams in NBA 2K15

Point is the past games had elements and a structure that could have been enhanced by the narrative elements, rather than completely co-opted by them (and sometimes badly).

And yes, billboards of ourselves is fiction-- but it's wish fullfilment fantasy. Versus a fiction where you are simply not you and your decisions and NBA elements are taken away to serve that not-you narrative. There's a huge distinction there. You're totally cool with less NBA authenticity and your personality co-opted by a questionable actor because you're not an NBA player anyway?

I mean if we follow the logical end of your argument, and any divergence from reality is equal, then we might as well have The 24th Letter be represented by a mushroom that talks like a 60's robot.

The point some of us are making aren't just to crap on the mode for its own sake. It's to hopefully offer thoughts on how to execute what should obviously be the goal-- the ultimate wish fullfilment of us as NBA players, where we retain as much or as little of ourselves as we want, because the latter is key to making the illusion work. I don't see how anyone can not want that.

And these are obviously our thoughts and opinions. Ones we feel strong enough and have thought about long enough to feel confident expressing and debating about. Feel free to disagree, but I don't think we need to postfix IMO after everything.

What if some players 'wish fulfillment' is the fame aspect of being an NBA superstar? What if chopping it up with stars before games, having interations with stars etc is an important part of the experience for them?

As far as your question...the main focus of the mode for me will be doing well on the court and building my character...not if his mannerisms or attitude sync up with mine....if I took thay attitude with video games I wouldnt play half the video games ive played....not every game is mass effect where I can control every aspect of my characters personality...and with the main focus being the basketball court, it'll bother me even less...

Come on, you know he didn't mean that, now you're using hyperbole for the other side lol..

Well....yeah that was the point.

[ccoaxum]

This is really cool. It would be awesome to see other celebrities even if you can't talk to them (Spike Lee at Knick games, Nicholson At Lakers games, Billy Crystal at Clippers games, Mark Cuban at Mave games)


My thoughts exactly. I hope they have different sets of voices, because this one is honestly more annoying than last years.. And he said two sentences.

Reminds me of kids who try to act like they're "down". I hope we have different voice choices this year, because I'm not going to be happy with this one. It's not the voice per say, it's just his manner of speaking.

Anyway, enough of that, I don't want to sound like a complainer.

Cool vid. Nice surprise

they said it was only two choices for the voice, the new one and old one from last year!

[King_B_Mack]

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I still can't see how we're making a bad thing out of a quick scene where you meet a celebrity sitting courtside in the game. The only legit issue to take with this scene is that the voice acting is terrible. But I don't expect great voice over work in an NBA basketball game. It's amazing that we're even getting this considering every other career mode ever in sports gaming outside of The Life consists of the same home screen over and over with nothing but games and a practice mode.


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