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  • StL_RamZ
    Pro
    • Mar 2011
    • 720

    #91
    Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

    they just finished a 2k stream on twitch. I caught it extremely late. they just said next week they will have live 5-on-5 gameplay on Tuesday and they will reveal something that no one has ever thought of

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    • Sinner
      All Star
      • Jun 2003
      • 5484

      #92
      Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

      Love the video, 2k, Da Czar, Sage damn nice work all the way around.
      -= Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.=- Edward Murphy

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      • justanotherguy
        Rookie
        • Jul 2014
        • 50

        #93
        Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar



        Dang, just won my pre-order. I was planning on holding out for a while to see what others had to say after the launch, but this just won me over.

        No one likes losing, but if the CPU is running a competent offense and working to get open shots, as opposed to what I've witnessed in 2k14, I can accept a loss to it. And now when I'm on offense I actually having some to fall back on that doesn't involve isolating. Man, you just made my day even better!

        Phenomenal work, ab-so-lutely crushed it.

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        • blues rocker
          MVP
          • Sep 2007
          • 1921

          #94
          Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

          nice. players seem to move with more speed and purpose rather than just lazily jogging around. passes seem zippier too.
          Last edited by blues rocker; 09-26-2014, 02:35 PM.

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          • BluFu
            MVP
            • May 2012
            • 3596

            #95
            Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

            Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
            That Manu pull up by the A.I sealed my pre order
            the TONY pull up at 4:56 sealed mine

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            • Blue12
              Rookie
              • Nov 2013
              • 178

              #96
              Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

              Originally posted by greenegt
              Wow. I picked a hell of a year to not buy 2K on day one. I'm trying to wait til Black Friday.
              You could always... you know... CHANGE YOUR PLANS!!!

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              • Da_Czar
                NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                • Jul 2002
                • 5408

                #97
                Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                Originally posted by alabamarob
                Smh. The czar does it again. Has messed up my weekend.

                Not only did he show thefreelance system, but then he flexin with the dribble hand off at the end. Ha ha. Czar is a funny dude. That ginobli pull up off the stop and go was nice. Floaters look one thousand times more realistic. Looks like 2k11 may finally get to rest in peace as opposed to being abused every summer by the console.
                I was hoping y'all would catch that. With the dribble hand-off's the system works best if you get to a spot and have the other guy run off of you. It's not ready for you both to be moving.

                It will play consistently if your follow the diagram. Still a tricky thing though but the AI can run those much better than it could previously but you will still see some wonky stuff from time to time. As with everything else this will be something we try to improve on each year.

                If you follow your diagrams and timing though they really run nicely even with the applying pressure as they were in that vid.

                EDIT: Also for almost every instance except for those where it just didn't make sense we have a branch if you decide not to hand it off. This makes teams like Portland difficult to guard when you get the timing down.
                Last edited by Da_Czar; 09-26-2014, 03:35 PM.
                Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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                • Da_Czar
                  NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 5408

                  #98
                  Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                  Originally posted by godylla
                  Is that offense tied to the Spurs no matter what, or is it tied to Pop? Just curious for years down the road in MyGM and what not.
                  Good ? For the AI we assign the coach's default freelance in the roster on our end. Unfortunately this year it is not something you guys can edit for the AI.

                  As a user you can select it like you select any other freelance offense. You have to call it before you cross half court for it to take effect that possession though.
                  Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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                  • Da_Czar
                    NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 5408

                    #99
                    Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                    Originally posted by godylla
                    Great job. As a guy who doesn't like to call plays every possession, as I don't know the best time/circumstances to call the correct play, I clearly had an issue generating offense in last years game. This should help greatly.
                    There is a secondary part to it that will really help guys in this situation and frankly I have started using it a lot vs calling a set play when using the spurs. I think it's pretty dope. Hope to show it in a vid soon.
                    Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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                    • Da_Czar
                      NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 5408

                      #100
                      Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                      Originally posted by RumbleCard
                      Just for clarity is this a default offense based on the coach's gameplan or an offense set/play that you select in the same way you select a play during a game?

                      Basically how is this offense "style" chosen? Is it determined by who is coaching the team? An offense scheme page? Selected during gameplay?

                      How can it be changed? Obviously you would to run something different as your team evolves.

                      But yeah...this is a huge improvement. Looks like the days of redundant, predictable and lazy offball movement are gone. Excellent work and excellent presentation.
                      As I mentioned for the AI we set this in the roster on the back end but for a user you are free to select any freelance offense available to run for your team.

                      you can change it in game similar to how you change a POE. It is not a POE but the process is similar.
                      Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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                      • 23
                        yellow
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 66469

                        #101
                        Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                        I thought I saw a semblance of triangle in the with a pass by D Rose...

                        Am I trippin?

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                        • Da_Czar
                          NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 5408

                          #102
                          Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                          Originally posted by ffaacc03
                          This is great, not only what was shown but that we can expect more to come from Mr. Simnation President ! Cant wait for more ...


                          I loved the offball movement, how smooth it looked, the evident improvement over the past freelance motion, how lifelike it looked the Spurs defense vs D_C (the one that caused them to counter attack) almost everything (yes, not all, there are still some issues evidenced).


                          Then again, this does seems a per team feature, doesnt it ? Is it editable ?


                          For the Spurs swing motion O to design implement and test your talking 1.5 months of 80 hour weeks fam. Every team is just not possible in the time I had. LOL. Yall trying to kill a Czar round here.
                          Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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                          • ffaacc03
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 3487

                            #103
                            Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                            Originally posted by Da_Czar
                            Good ? For the AI we assign the coach's default freelance in the roster on our end. Unfortunately this year it is not something you guys can edit for the AI.

                            As a user you can select it like you select any other freelance offense. You have to call it before you cross half court for it to take effect that possession though.
                            Am very grateful that it is finally implemented ... and it looks great.

                            No problem about not been editable this year, hopefully we can do it next year, keep it comming.
                            Last edited by ffaacc03; 09-26-2014, 03:33 PM. Reason: Didnt see previous post, will make another rephrasing it ...

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                            • zrtelford
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 253

                              #104
                              Two thumbs WAY up.

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                              • silverskier
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 285

                                #105
                                Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                                Originally posted by Da_Czar
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                                For the Spurs swing motion O to design implement and test your talking 1.5 months of 80 hour weeks fam. Every team is just not possible in the time I had. LOL. Yall trying to kill a Czar round here.


                                So re we going to have the swing motion from spurs for other teams? How many plays are in this swing motions? I saw 2 minimum. Great work

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