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  • MAGboyswifT27
    Rookie
    • Sep 2012
    • 206

    #241
    Wow, seriously can't wait for the drop! Nice vid and music fellas!

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    • Da_Czar
      NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
      • Jul 2002
      • 5408

      #242
      Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

      Originally posted by Cowboy008
      I don't know where to ask this so I'll ask it in here. Since we will be able to know our opponents strengths and weaknesses will the cpu know ours? and will they try to exploit it?
      Not like how your probably wanting it to work. As I mentioned this is something we need to deliberately deliver to get it where I think you guys would want it.

      Again, this year was about fixing the major basic systems as far as offense and AI and even defense are concerned. Once we feel good about where those are.. not that they are perfect but that they work well then we can ratchet up the more granular strategical stuff that will take the game to the next level.

      So for instance right now I keep hearing mismatches, attacking weaknesses etc. So that is continuing to move up that list and will be something I bring to the table as we discuss priorities for 16.
      Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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      • Da_Czar
        NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
        • Jul 2002
        • 5408

        #243
        Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

        Originally posted by PJBrownHeat
        Will you do a video about knicks offense or classic bulls?
        That clip @ .40 was put in just for you pjbrownheat I know how much you have been asking for that so I made sure it was in the game this year.

        I hope to do something on them prior to release but I can not promise.
        Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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        • Da_Czar
          NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
          • Jul 2002
          • 5408

          #244
          Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

          Originally posted by WISports
          I'm as giddy as a 9th grade school girl getting ready to go on her first date. This looks amazing.


          I just hope the momentum/change of direction delay isn't overdone. These guys are world class athletes, so many can switch directions on a dime.
          The primary goal was to get it in. We can refine as we move forward from here. There is bound to be a guy you think should recover faster but the OVERALL game balance was what we were going for.

          The offense has always had some form of foot planting on shifts but the defense has been free to change directions without consequence. So please give it some time before you decide whether you like it or not.

          Previous games you could hold left stick full at all times and still be in two places at once. This year that won't always give you the control that you may want.

          After years of being able to exactly mirror the defense's movement even when your face guarding them. It will be an adjustment to have to step back and concede a possible jumper because it is too difficult to keep some guys in front when face guarding.

          For instance you now have to decide when guarding off ball and your the help defender. Do I attack the penetrator and lower his shot % or do I stay home to protect the rebound in case he misses ?

          In 2k14 you could literally do both. Not so in 2k15. So it will be an adjustment that may not "feel" right when you first start playing.

          Give it some time, and if after that, it still is not playing right for you, let us know.
          Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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          • Bearsfan1
            Rookie
            • Jun 2008
            • 172

            #245
            Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

            Looks great, but that passing, man... It's gotta be fixed. It doesn't look any better than last year's game with the same floaty passes. It's the most frustrating part about the game to me. I really hope it feels differently when I play it for myself, but I am having reservations about it already.

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            • Da_Czar
              NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
              • Jul 2002
              • 5408

              #246
              Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

              Originally posted by Rob. D
              Video was tough ... nice work Czar
              Naw man thank you for that HEAT that Sage beasted on. Good peoples right here men When I need these dudes it is never a problem.
              Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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              • Rockie_Fresh88
                Lockdown Defender
                • Oct 2011
                • 9621

                #247
                Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                Originally posted by Da_Czar
                The primary goal was to get it in. We can refine as we move forward from here. There is bound to be a guy you think should recover faster but the OVERALL game balance was what we were going for.

                The offense has always had some form of foot planting on shifts but the defense has been free to change directions without consequence. So please give it some time before you decide whether you like it or not.

                Previous games you could hold left stick full at all times and still be in two places at once. This year that won't always give you the control that you may want.

                After years of being able to exactly mirror the defense's movement even when your face guarding them. It will be an adjustment to have to step back and concede a possible jumper because it is too difficult to keep some guys in front when face guarding.

                For instance you now have to decide when guarding off ball and your the help defender. Do I attack the penetrator and lower his shot % or do I stay home to protect the rebound in case he misses ?

                In 2k14 you could literally do both. Not so in 2k15. So it will be an adjustment that may not "feel" right when you first start playing.

                Give it some time, and if after that, it still is not playing right for you, let us know.
                This changes 10 man team up so much
                #1 Laker fan
                First Team Defense !!!

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                • reptilexcq
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 950

                  #248
                  Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                  Does voice command work with calling plays?? I know 2k14 is limited and hope they expand on that. And does it work online?

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                  • Guapo516
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 190

                    #249
                    Anybody else read czar posts to them selves in his voice! !lol

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                    • AceDawg5
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 371

                      #250
                      Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                      Originally posted by Da_Czar
                      For the first time we actually scouted summer league. Initially as you said there were lots of thoughts on what he would run.

                      Obviously there will be some differences because of personnel differences and time he had to implement his stuff.

                      So we snatched as much as we could from there. We gave them some of the basic triangle stuff they actually ran during summer league which was basically some pinch post action.

                      Then I just kind of logically expanded out from what we captured to fill out the rest of the play book.

                      He had a lot of thru and zipper action stuff so If he ran a thru to a fist I also gave him a thru to a post up etc.

                      The plan was to have an interface to allow me to add new plays post ship but there was a glitch and that didn't make it in.

                      Had that been the case we would have scouted preseason games to get an even more informed view of what new coaches are running.

                      There are teams who's freelance will switch between 3-2 and 4-1 in depending on personnel.

                      So the freelance can be either 3-2, 4-1, or it can be set to default which automatically switches depending on if the 4 man is a perimeter threat or not.

                      The Warriors are set to default.
                      This is possibly the best post of all time, cpu will recognize whether u have in a stretch 4 man or not and automatically change the freelance accordingly? That is basketball

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                      • Sundown
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 3270

                        #251
                        Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                        Originally posted by Da_Czar
                        For the first time we actually scouted summer league. Initially as you said there were lots of thoughts on what he would run.

                        Obviously there will be some differences because of personnel differences and time he had to implement his stuff.

                        So we snatched as much as we could from there. We gave them some of the basic triangle stuff they actually ran during summer league which was basically some pinch post action.

                        Then I just kind of logically expanded out from what we captured to fill out the rest of the play book.

                        He had a lot of thru and zipper action stuff so If he ran a thru to a fist I also gave him a thru to a post up etc.

                        The plan was to have an interface to allow me to add new plays post ship but there was a glitch and that didn't make it in.

                        Had that been the case we would have scouted preseason games to get an even more informed view of what new coaches are running.

                        There are teams who's freelance will switch between 3-2 and 4-1 in depending on personnel.

                        So the freelance can be either 3-2, 4-1, or it can be set to default which automatically switches depending on if the 4 man is a perimeter threat or not.

                        The Warriors are set to default.
                        This is as great an effort as could be reasonably expected given the transition. Yes, I'd forgotten that many of the potential plays were on display in summer league. Totally awesome that you pretty much did what was possible and a bit more.

                        And bummer about the glitch but really impressed that was even in consideration. Post release play adjustments would be phenomenal, and it's amazing that was even on the books.

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                        • Cowboy008
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 4574

                          #252
                          Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                          I have a question but it's not about gameplay. Have they added more halftime/end of the game interviews or has that not been touched?

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                          • El_Poopador
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 2624

                            #253
                            Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                            Originally posted by Da_Czar
                            The primary goal was to get it in. We can refine as we move forward from here. There is bound to be a guy you think should recover faster but the OVERALL game balance was what we were going for.

                            The offense has always had some form of foot planting on shifts but the defense has been free to change directions without consequence. So please give it some time before you decide whether you like it or not.

                            Previous games you could hold left stick full at all times and still be in two places at once. This year that won't always give you the control that you may want.

                            After years of being able to exactly mirror the defense's movement even when your face guarding them. It will be an adjustment to have to step back and concede a possible jumper because it is too difficult to keep some guys in front when face guarding.

                            For instance you now have to decide when guarding off ball and your the help defender. Do I attack the penetrator and lower his shot % or do I stay home to protect the rebound in case he misses ?

                            In 2k14 you could literally do both. Not so in 2k15. So it will be an adjustment that may not "feel" right when you first start playing.

                            Give it some time, and if after that, it still is not playing right for you, let us know.
                            This makes me very happy. It always drove me nuts how quickly the defense could cover ground, so hearing that closeout speeds and recovery times are toned down are huge for me.

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                            • WISports
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 2058

                              #254
                              Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                              Originally posted by Da_Czar
                              The primary goal was to get it in. We can refine as we move forward from here. There is bound to be a guy you think should recover faster but the OVERALL game balance was what we were going for.

                              The offense has always had some form of foot planting on shifts but the defense has been free to change directions without consequence. So please give it some time before you decide whether you like it or not.

                              Previous games you could hold left stick full at all times and still be in two places at once. This year that won't always give you the control that you may want.

                              After years of being able to exactly mirror the defense's movement even when your face guarding them. It will be an adjustment to have to step back and concede a possible jumper because it is too difficult to keep some guys in front when face guarding.

                              For instance you now have to decide when guarding off ball and your the help defender. Do I attack the penetrator and lower his shot % or do I stay home to protect the rebound in case he misses ?

                              In 2k14 you could literally do both. Not so in 2k15. So it will be an adjustment that may not "feel" right when you first start playing.

                              Give it some time, and if after that, it still is not playing right for you, let us know.
                              Thanks for the reply, much appreciated.


                              So, will quicker, smaller guys be able to change direction faster and quicker than bigger, slower guys?

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                              • dpower15
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 1029

                                #255
                                Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                                I hope everyone realizes that regardless of how smooth this is in year one (which it seems to be pretty dang smooth from the video and the descriptions we are getting) that the biggest thing is this is a HUGE step in the right direction for future games. This added with all the features they have worked on and brought back really do show that 2K listens to its customers, and the OS community in particular.

                                As a former collegiate player myself, it's nice to see that they have a guy like Czar around who really seems to understand the game on a deeper level.


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