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  • Rockie_Fresh88
    Lockdown Defender
    • Oct 2011
    • 9621

    #301
    Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

    So don't expect to see Any spacing improvements or any freelance actions by the off ball A.I if the game is played by casuals ? That's what you guys are telling me? That those improvements are only limited to sim style ?

    I feel like if that area is improved , which I know it is don't get me wrong , we should see a change whether you , me , Ronnie , or anybody plays the game especially if it's a full game vs a 4 minute bootleg video.

    Not basing a decision already got it pre-ordered just want to see it in action more.
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    • lakers24
      MVP
      • Jun 2008
      • 2013

      #302
      Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

      I thought the A.I. that Czar showed was tuned for Superstar-Sim settings? Wouldn't that mean it wouldn't really show itself in those demos which are on pro-default?
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      • The 24th Letter
        ERA
        • Oct 2007
        • 39373

        #303
        NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

        Yeah I would definitely expect to see some of the improvements from the video...why wouldn't we?

        Ronnie/LD aren't hardcore 'sim' guys running plays every time down court, but they definitely aren't straight arcade players that play a in a way that makes the game look bad IMO.
        Last edited by The 24th Letter; 09-28-2014, 09:25 AM.

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        • 23
          yellow
          • Sep 2002
          • 66469

          #304
          Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

          Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
          So don't expect to see Any spacing improvements or any freelance actions by the off ball A.I if the game is played by casuals ? That's what you guys are telling me? That those improvements are only limited to sim style ?

          I feel like if that area is improved , which I know it is don't get me wrong , we should see a change whether you , me , Ronnie , or anybody plays the game especially if it's a full game vs a 4 minute bootleg video.

          Not basing a decision already got it pre-ordered just want to see it in action more.
          I'm telling you you've seen footage played by casuals.

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          • Rockie_Fresh88
            Lockdown Defender
            • Oct 2011
            • 9621

            #305
            Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

            Originally posted by 23
            I'm telling you you've seen footage played by casuals.
            man Ronnie and LD2k can't be that bad lol
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            • godylla
              Rookie
              • Jan 2009
              • 305

              #306
              Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

              Originally posted by 23
              I'm telling you you've seen footage played by casuals.
              Could be a newer/fresher build Ronnie and LD2K are playing as well compared to the videos from conferences and camera footage.
              "Do or do not, there is no try."
              - Yoda

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              • 23
                yellow
                • Sep 2002
                • 66469

                #307
                Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                man Ronnie and LD2k can't be that bad lol
                Let's hope not lolol

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                • 23
                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #308
                  Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                  Originally posted by godylla
                  Could be a newer/fresher build Ronnie and LD2K are playing as well compared to the videos from conferences and camera footage.
                  They're probably going to use the 2k camera ugh

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                  • godylla
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 305

                    #309
                    Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                    Originally posted by 23
                    They're probably going to use the 2k camera ugh
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                    • Vni
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 14833

                      #310
                      Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                      Czar, can you still have a game of 2K and genuinly enjoy it now that you're developping the game ? Do you find yourself abusing the AI now that you know it's limitations really well ?

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                      • Goffs
                        New Ork Giants
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 12279

                        #311
                        Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                        Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                        Anyone see that Ronnie and LD2k will play a full game of 2k15 this Tuesday ? We should get a good look at freelance then
                        Don't you mean Thursda....I mean Friday?

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                        • RainZ
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 260

                          #312
                          *** **** this looks amaaaazing. Ever since i heard of the move to 2k by CZar this is the stuff I've been waiting for! Great to finally see some concrete things put in place already this year! Keep up the sim work man
                          Sim. Ball. Only.

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                          • stlpimpmonsta
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 1545

                            #313
                            Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                            Czar as a spurs fan I loved that vid but I have one question. Will every team be able to do this? Just asking cause I would hate to see the thunder have good off ball movement after a play breaks down. Wouldn't be realistic.


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                            • El_Poopador
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 2624

                              #314
                              Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                              Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                              So don't expect to see Any spacing improvements or any freelance actions by the off ball A.I if the game is played by casuals ? That's what you guys are telling me? That those improvements are only limited to sim style ?

                              I feel like if that area is improved , which I know it is don't get me wrong , we should see a change whether you , me , Ronnie , or anybody plays the game especially if it's a full game vs a 4 minute bootleg video.

                              Not basing a decision already got it pre-ordered just want to see it in action more.
                              I think he was saying that it's not going to be noticeable if you're not playing a realistic style. If you're running around with your head cut off and charging the paint every time your team gets the ball, I wouldn't expect to see the spacing and AI do anything we saw from Czar's video.

                              He even mentioned at one point in the video that if you just want to play iso all game, don't expect to see a lot outside of your teammates trying to stay out of the way.

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                              • City_foxx
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 330

                                #315
                                Re: NBA 2K15 Video - Evolution of Freelance Offense with Da_Czar

                                That could be a problem. An issue i had playing on line was the usser spamming double teams. If i was trying to run a set the ai would react to the "bad defense" poorly. This year if they are hard wired to stay out of your way what about double teams and zones? Does free lance behave differently vs. A zone? Will they be able to see the double teams? And react properly. I dont want rodo to pass to the wing have his man double so he spots up for 3. Ik you can manualy tell the player to cut, but its quit difficult while being doubled would be nice if theres ai logic thelling them to react to doubles and zones bassed on thier strengths and weaknesses.
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