NBA Live 15 Video and Blog - Offensive Improvements

[El_Poopador]

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This is not even close to the comparison you're trying to make. First of all, did they get to all the improvements they wanted to? No of course not it is a one year cycle. But they still got to a gigantic heaping of issues that people had with last years game. Nearly every single issue that was brought up with 2K14 was addressed this year in some fashion. As developers, sure they didn't get to everything they WANTED to get to, but as far as we can see thus far, they got to everything they NEEDED to get to.

I don't want to turn this into a Live vs 2k argument, because that's not what I was trying to do. My point was that even though 2k was already pretty much a complete game that many people thought was great on the court, they still couldn't address a lot of things they wanted to get to. Just looking through the conversations with Da_Czar, you can see there was a lot he wanted to do, but didn't have the time. Then, on Live's side, you had a game from last year that the majority felt was lacking in almost every aspect. So I wouldn't expect the same level of polish, when they needed to work on a lot of bigger issues first.

As usual with this series though, things that are sitting front and center on the need to get done list didn't because we focus on things that isn't already broken. Fix what's broken or non-existent first and then get to that other stuff.

I think that's up for debate. Visuals were a huge area of complaint from last year's game, starting with the very first trailer they released. Non-responsive controls were another. The lack of contact in the paint was probably the single biggest issue that most people had, including myself. Yes, animation quality can certainly use work, but it's not a gamebreaker as it stands now.

[GisherJohn24]

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Good input here. I think what it will come down to as long as the gameplay is smooth and feels like basketball again, the deciding factor if Live is viable again is AI. Needs to be somewhat competent and must feel like real basketball again. LIVE 14 I felt at times players were dumber than a box of bricks. If players aren't moving, aren't trying to get open or what have you, on top of moving organically that is, then I'll be sorely disappointed. But again , my optimism is somewhat high for 15 but I know those trailers I saw for 14 did the same thing in making me think it's gonna be special. But.... the difference this year is that we've seen a lot more teasing and it's still 26 days away and I expect more gameplay videos before launch.

Being generous, if Live 14 was getting around 6.0 ratings we should expect 8.0 for 15. Anything less imo is a big downer

[Junior Moe]

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Man, I just can't get behind "it being better than last year" as a form of praise.

Guess I just expected nothing less than faces being scanned, animations being improved...they were near the bottom of the barrel last year. That's not to say I don't appreciate the additions of things like "rag doll physics" or some of the other improvements in this video...

Exactly! All of that stuff is nice and dandy but it doesn't entice me to purchase the game this year. It's progress and it may lead to a purchase next year if the rest of the game is up to snuff. But I cant get onboard with an "improvement" or "best Live yet". Having NBA videogame competition is not my cross to bear. Live is competing with Madden, Destiny, Shadow of Mordor, NBA 2K, GTA V and probably WWE2K. I don't have any coin to waste. I want the best product, or a fundamentally different product that is produced well. I don't usually purchase two videogames from the same sport. If NBA Live excelled at user control and physics, for instance, and did those things really well then I would pick the game up even with a few hiccups and the lack of modes because that's a "new" experience for me. That's what I am looking for.

[loosey101]

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Live 14 failed miserably, let's not try and act like it was even a good game. However, I played the crap out of it and enjoyed certain aspects. Now, after seeing these trailers and short clips of gameplay, I can tell this will be light years better. Do I think it's going to be a game changer hell no, but to me personally, I think it will extremely enjoyable. I just don't get why people are getting attacked on the Live forum when they say "good job EA" or "man this is a day one buy." If you dislike Live and you aren't interested in playing, that's fine but don't attack others when they say they want to and vice versa. I'm just ready for the game to release already because some of you guys are driving me to look at the forums less and less.

[Cabish]

I am like you moe,I don't hVe money,time and energy to baby no damn million dollar company,I want the best and Realest simulation for my money and I'm not buying two games just because one game does shoes and headbands and cross over moves better than a game that is a better total package,doesnt give a sht about me as a customer and IF (like the rock ) lol if they cared about me as a customer they wouldn't have bought excluive to the NFL ,college footballlicense ,shape the hell up and make a good game in nba live,stop feeding us crap on bull

[The 24th Letter]

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Live 14 failed miserably, let's not try and act like it was even a good game. However, I played the crap out of it and enjoyed certain aspects. Now, after seeing these trailers and short clips of gameplay, I can tell this will be light years better. Do I think it's going to be a game changer hell no, but to me personally, I think it will extremely enjoyable. I just don't get why people are getting attacked on the Live forum when they say "good job EA" or "man this is a day one buy." If you dislike Live and you aren't interested in playing, that's fine but don't attack others when they say they want to and vice versa. I'm just ready for the game to release already because some of you guys are driving me to look at the forums less and less.

Who's being attacked though?....I don't know if you took my comment in particular that way, but if you did that's not how it was meant. In general, it should be understood that not every non positive post is an attack on on the game or fans of the game.

[Dr. Banner]

It's a step in the right direction.

[Da-Man]

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As long as it's playable this year I'm in.

[loosey101]

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Who's being attacked though?....I don't know if you took my comment in particular that way, but if you did that's not how it was meant. In general, it should be understood that not every non positive post is an attack on on the game or fans of the game.

Naw not you 24th I def know you post positive and negative things on live. I agree though EA needs to be criticized on certain aspects by I think it goes overboard when people constantly get attacked for saying good things.

[swac07]

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Playmakers, 24, King B, 23 , and Sage are in here really shedding some light on things!!!! Respect!!

I think the game visually looks great (90 percent of players' likenesses,shoes, and arenas) but it just seems like everything else they are displaying gameplay wise they arent confident in.

I will say I did dislike that an action cutaway camera was used to show off the passing/fastbreak instead of maybe a broadcast camera so you could actually see the speed and trajectory of each pass from one player to another in real time.That has questionable written all over it not necessarily the game but the tactics used to show off alot of those features. I just feel the whole trailer was rushed from the gameplay improvements(use of action cams) to even the narrator of the trailer. Thats just odd to me.

Ps.
Whats up with that celtics green on their jerseys? It needs fixing it looks like a shiny emerald green.

[whoahello]

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Yea I'm going to pass on this. There's just too many impressive features and modes on 2K.

[Playmakers]

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As long as it's playable this year I'm in.

This comment is why EA keeps taking the easy way out....

I could care less about who buys the game and who doesn't but to me it just seems as if this company gets a free pass time after time with Live.

How many times have they decided to pull the plug and start from scratch on us only to havus wait 2-3 years just for a game that we can call playable?

Live 10 was playable....

Heck even the train wrecks from Live 07-09 could be edited to a certain extent to make just playable.

It's been long overdue for us to have a NBA Live Game that is beyond just playable IMO.

The things some of you guys are willing to settle for now days in this day and age of video sports gaming is unreal.

We spend $400-500 bucks on a next gen system and anther $60 bucks on the games just to say "as long as it's playable I'm in"

[GisherJohn24]

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This comment is why EA keeps taking the easy way out....

I could care less about who buys the game and who doesn't but to me it just seems as if this company gets a free pass time after time with Live.

How many times have they decided to pull the plug and start from scratch on us only to havus wait 2-3 years just for a game that we can call playable?

Live 10 was playable....

Heck even the train wrecks from Live 07-09 could be edited to a certain extent to make just playable.

It's been long overdue for us to have a NBA Live Game that is beyond just playable IMO.

The things some of you guys are willing to settle for now days in this day and age of video sports gaming is unreal.

We spend $400-500 bucks on a next gen system and anther $60 bucks on the games just to say "as long as it's playable I'm in"

People rip on 08 and 09 Live, but ya know what? While they were unrealisitc and tons of cheese, they were FUN. I still have more fun playing Live 09 than I did with 14 and certainly Elite that never was. It proves you don't need to have a so called "sim" game to be fun. Live was still making decent cash with 09 and 08, and even the joke of Live 07 and even 06. But those games at least had the mechanics working well enough to have some fun to be had. That's all I want with 15. Fun factor. IF I got Chris Paul dunking on Dwight Howard on a fast break, guess what? Count me in as long as I'm having fun doing it.

[King_B_Mack]

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People rip on 08 and 09 Live, but ya know what? While they were unrealisitc and tons of cheese, they were FUN. I still have more fun playing Live 09 than I did with 14 and certainly Elite that never was. It proves you don't need to have a so called "sim" game to be fun. Live was still making decent cash with 09 and 08, and even the joke of Live 07 and even 06. But those games at least had the mechanics working well enough to have some fun to be had. That's all I want with 15. Fun factor. IF I got Chris Paul dunking on Dwight Howard on a fast break, guess what? Count me in as long as I'm having fun doing it.

Then you should be petitioning for the return of NBA Street sir. NBA Live and simulation basketball games isn't the place for you.


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[loosey101]

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You're telling him it's impossible to have fun playing Live? That's funny because I'm another person that wants a FUN game as well. I don't have time with a family and priorities to sit down and adjust sliders and get involved online so I enjoy a quick game that's easy to play and fun. That's exactly what I'm talking about, dude post about wanting to play a fun game and here you come with some GIF trying to make him look stupid.