FIFA 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS4, XB1)

[Krebstar]

Re: FIFA 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS4, XB1)

Matt I have just found something that imo is crucial. I took a look to the parameters in cl.ini and I decided to see more closely this global cpu pass error slider. The pass error slider is not an actual pass error slider for the cpu. It's a slider that affects cpu build up. In general it's a direct pass/pass variation slider which works backwards. I've set it to 07 (yes 7) and the cpu build up suddenly got more direct and varied with crosses, 1-2's etc. This means that if we set this one to higher values than default 50 the cpu gets more cautious and dribbles much more because it looks for that easy short pass. Now with the slider at 7 I've seen many more errors from cpu because they're confident they can pass without error which leads to more errors in their passes! I know it sounds weird but it's exactly like this. Crossings in the box although are more dangerous but this is not a problem because head scoring is actually very balanced this year.
I'm yet to test if leaving from default 50 breaks individual cpu teams build up. As it is though the only options are setting this either on 50 or way below to get more variation in the cpu build up.

This is amazing to hear, and now I can't wait to get home and see what happens when I drop that damn thing to 0, haha.

[gottaplaysome]

Re: FIFA 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS4, XB1)

This is amazing to hear, and now I can't wait to get home and see what happens when I drop that damn thing to 0, haha.

I tried setting this to zero and Chelsea dribbled incessantly all over the field, hardly passing at all. This seems an unwelcome change in behavior at least based on what I saw over three games.

[Krebstar]

Re: FIFA 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS4, XB1)

I tried setting this to zero and Chelsea dribbled incessantly all over the field, hardly passing at all. This seems an unwelcome change in behavior at least based on what I saw over three games.

Well, I'd take dribbling if it means teams will also then hit it long and over the top. Not sure if the slider will fix that, though.

[japsubie]

Re: FIFA 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS4, XB1)

I tried setting this to zero and Chelsea dribbled incessantly all over the field, hardly passing at all. This seems an unwelcome change in behavior at least based on what I saw over three games.

interesting because i thought fearwhatnow said the opposite for that slider being a lower number... "This means that if we set this one to higher values than default 50 the cpu gets more cautious and dribbles much more because it looks for that easy short pass. Now with the slider at 7 I've seen many more errors from cpu because they're confident they can pass without error which leads to more errors in their passes!"

can anyone else confirm if computer continues dribbling more and more with a lower number on the slider?

[cadalyst17]

Re: FIFA 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS4, XB1)

This is amazing to hear, and now I can't wait to get home and see what happens when I drop that damn thing to 0, haha.

I raised my CPU passing to 60 and for me, it is much more tolerable. I have also dropped CPU runs at 40. I am seeing more of a slower buildup :-)

[Hutton]

Re: FIFA 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS4, XB1)

This is amazing to hear, and now I can't wait to get home and see what happens when I drop that damn thing to 0, haha.

I just tried it with CPU Pass Error=8 (seemed like a good number to try).

Played WBA vs Spurs (me) I have to say I haven't seen the CPU cross the ball in my last 20 matches combined as much as they already have done in the 1st half alone.

Their pass% was still 77%. They haven't been playing the type of long balls I'd like to see (I'm not sure how much of a 'long ball' type of team WBA is honestly) but they did pass it around the back a couple times, and made a few passes from the top of the attacking box back to a central MF player.

Keep in mind that I have heavily modified line settings (63/45/40) and reduced CPU Runs (35ish) in an effort to slow the game down & create more MF congestion/MF buildup play. I would say that I'm seeing more buildup play with the CPU Pass error=8

[gopher_guy]

Re: FIFA 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS4, XB1)

I just tried lowering CPU Pass Error. I'm managing Sweden's national team in my CM, and I'm playing Northern Ireland.

I like the way lowering the slider makes them behave, but they are pinging passes all over the place like they are Barcelona. Backheels, perfectly placed passes between defenders.

Just for the hell of it I raised the slider up to 90 about halfway through the game, and it does make them just dribble around a hell of a lot more, but there was obviously a lot more variety in their passing. It wasn't all perfect. I wish there was a way to make the CPU play like the Pass Error slider is at 8, which is what I had it at initially, but then still have their passing be not so pinpoint.

edit: Might try raising their first touch error a little. Maybe they'd at least receive the passes a little sloppier. Kind of a band-aid fix, but it might be worth a try.

Northern Ireland finished that game with 90% pass accuracy. Even when they played for 15-20 minutes with the pass error slider up at 90.

[Krebstar]

Re: FIFA 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS4, XB1)

I just tried lowering CPU Pass Error. I'm managing Sweden's national team in my CM, and I'm playing Northern Ireland.

I like the way lowering the slider makes them behave, but they are pinging passes all over the place like they are Barcelona. Backheels, perfectly placed passes between defenders.

Just for the hell of it I raised the slider up to 90 about halfway through the game, and it does make them just dribble around a hell of a lot more, but there was obviously a lot more variety in their passing. It wasn't all perfect. I wish there was a way to make the CPU play like the Pass Error slider is at 8, which is what I had it at initially, but then still have their passing be not so pinpoint.

edit: Might try raising their first touch error a little. Maybe they'd at least receive the passes a little sloppier. Kind of a band-aid fix, but it might be worth a try.

Northern Ireland finished that game with 90% pass accuracy. Even when they played for 15-20 minutes with the pass error slider up at 90.

In a way, this is still good news, hopefully. Maybe this means teams that do play more like Barcelona can do short passes (even if it's a high %), but other teams will now respond to their custom tactics and pass it long, and cross it more often.

How low did you have it when they were completing all of their passes? Maybe we just need to find the butter zone, and maybe that's closer to default?

Very interesting indeed!

[jonapaloma]

Re: FIFA 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS4, XB1)

Matt I have just found something that imo is crucial. I took a look to the parameters in cl.ini and I decided to see more closely this global cpu pass error slider. The pass error slider is not an actual pass error slider for the cpu. It's a slider that affects cpu build up. In general it's a direct pass/pass variation slider which works backwards. I've set it to 07 (yes 7) and the cpu build up suddenly got more direct and varied with crosses, 1-2's etc. This means that if we set this one to higher values than default 50 the cpu gets more cautious and dribbles much more because it looks for that easy short pass. Now with the slider at 7 I've seen many more errors from cpu because they're confident they can pass without error which leads to more errors in their passes! I know it sounds weird but it's exactly like this. Crossings in the box although are more dangerous but this is not a problem because head scoring is actually very balanced this year.
I'm yet to test if leaving from default 50 breaks individual cpu teams build up. As it is though the only options are setting this either on 50 or way below to get more variation in the cpu build up.

So these findings wasnt so good as you first thought?

[gopher_guy]

Re: FIFA 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS4, XB1)

In a way, this is still good news, hopefully. Maybe this means teams that do play more like Barcelona can do short passes (even if it's a high %), but other teams will now respond to their custom tactics and pass it long, and cross it more often.

How low did you have it when they were completing all of their passes? Maybe we just need to find the butter zone, and maybe that's closer to default?

Very interesting indeed!

I had it set at 8.

I was thinking about trying another game (outside of my career mode this time, haha) where it is set at 25 or 30.

[KG]

Re: FIFA 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS4, XB1)

Hopefully one problem won't beget another, lol.

[Hutton]

Re: FIFA 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS4, XB1)

I just tried lowering CPU Pass Error. I'm managing Sweden's national team in my CM, and I'm playing Northern Ireland.

I like the way lowering the slider makes them behave, but they are pinging passes all over the place like they are Barcelona. Backheels, perfectly placed passes between defenders.

Just for the hell of it I raised the slider up to 90 about halfway through the game, and it does make them just dribble around a hell of a lot more, but there was obviously a lot more variety in their passing. It wasn't all perfect. I wish there was a way to make the CPU play like the Pass Error slider is at 8, which is what I had it at initially, but then still have their passing be not so pinpoint.

edit: Might try raising their first touch error a little. Maybe they'd at least receive the passes a little sloppier. Kind of a band-aid fix, but it might be worth a try.

Northern Ireland finished that game with 90% pass accuracy. Even when they played for 15-20 minutes with the pass error slider up at 90.

The only success I've had reducing the CPU pass%, no matter what the pass error slider is set at is to play conservative, well positioned defense. Keep your shape, don't drag players out of position via ball chasing, lot's of player switching, manual control and move a central mid player back to protect the back line and cut off passing lanes. You have to concede possession to the CPU, but I've found that if I'm patient eventually you will force the CPU into making a bad pass. And at the end of a match even when I feel like the CPU was "overly" accurate, lot's of times their comp% will be <80%.

Line sliders help a lot also IMO, as you can create more congestion in the MF area, meaning less space to make perfect passes to wide open teammates. Increasing the 1st touch error slider helps, as they will often mishandle a pass and not be able to play that immediate ping pong game, and you'll create more changes in possession. HUM Marking also helps, but I haven't found the sweet spot yet. HUM/CPU pass speed=40 also feels pretty natural, and the slower passes allows for you to cut the lanes more easily.

[jonapaloma]

Re: FIFA 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS4, XB1)

Are we all talking about the PC version?

[gopher_guy]

Re: FIFA 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS4, XB1)

Thanks for the tips, Hutton.

I suppose I will have to train myself to stay in position and concede possession instead of trying to win the ball back immediately, haha

Are we all talking about the PC version?

No, I'm on XB1.

[Hutton]

Re: FIFA 15 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (PS4, XB1)

Thanks for the tips, Hutton.

I suppose I will have to train myself to stay in position and concede.

This is a massive problem for me as well. I'm so used to old FIFA's where you could just spam RB and chase/pressure the heck out of the ball, and lunge in with tackle attempts all day long to great effect.

That doesn't work for me in '15. Patience is key. I'm still struggling with it. Old habits die hard. I'll play a solid 20 minutes, then start to ball chase & it all goes downhill fast.

You are rewarded far more in '15 for playing conservative defense. Instead of actively trying to win the ball the game rewards you for sitting back and forcing an error from the CPU attack. The problem lies in the fact that poor teams still make great decisions with the ball, making it extra difficult to patiently wait for Accrington Stanley to make a mistake when playing as Spurs. It should be far easier to cut the passing lanes and regain possession against a lower league side, instead they also have the skill to attack deep into the final third (too much of the game in FIFA is played in the final 2/3rds).