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  • Jakeness23
    Pro
    • Aug 2009
    • 872

    #16
    MKG should be up there. But I love how this game looks up close, I just wish it looked good from a broadcast angle. I also wish they didn't rate a bunch of people so high with their overalls. Seems like they just want to make the players happy with their ratings instead of making them more realistic. But if they play like their real-life counterpart, I guess that doesn't really matter so much. If they continue to build from this, then Live has a bright future, but for the love of everything, don't scrap it all and start from scratch AGAIN, whatever you do.
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    • _Fernando
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      • Mar 2014
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      #17
      Re: NBA Live 15 Player Ratings Revealed - Top 5 Defenders

      Originally posted by Jakeness23
      MKG should be up there. But I love how this game looks up close, I just wish it looked good from a broadcast angle. I also wish they didn't rate a bunch of people so high with their overalls. Seems like they just want to make the players happy with their ratings instead of making them more realistic. But if they play like their real-life counterpart, I guess that doesn't really matter so much. If they continue to build from this, then Live has a bright future, but for the love of everything, don't scrap it all and start from scratch AGAIN, whatever you do.
      I could see why you would think players are high but, we're only showing the best players.

      Looking forward to your feedback when the season starts up.
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      • snocone
        Rookie
        • Jul 2014
        • 468

        #18
        Re: NBA Live 15 Player Ratings Revealed - Top 5 Defenders

        Originally posted by NBALIVE_Fernando
        We have a 'Help Defense' rating.

        Which could be viewed as a team defense rating.

        And the top 5 looks different for that list.
        Thats good to hear, the attribute just being called "Defense" made me wonder

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        • @marcusjiles
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          • Nov 2013
          • 92

          #19
          I hope to whatever almighty power that they used this extra time to implement roster editing. Please oh please. The things I could do with this. WEW! lol

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          • thedream2k13
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            • Jan 2013
            • 1507

            #20
            Re: NBA Live 15 Player Ratings Revealed - Top 5 Defenders

            Originally posted by NoTiCe_O
            LeBron's Body on Point.
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            • Playmakers
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              • Sep 2004
              • 15419

              #21
              Re: NBA Live 15 Player Ratings Revealed - Top 5 Defenders

              So since everything is being handled by Synergy I wonder if EA is taking this kind of data and utilizing it to rank the defenders

              This was in reference to Chandler Parsons

              "According to Synergy Sports, Parsons ranked 190th as an overall defender last season, allowing 0.88 points per possession. He ranked 219th in isolation (0.93) and 204th in post-up situations (0.94). Parsons was well above average guarding pick-and-roll ballhandlers, ranking 70th and allowing 0.74 points per possession."


              This probably won't get a feedback but I'd love to know if Synergy will handle some of the defensive data in Live 15 (like it will for the offense)
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              • DBMcGee3
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                • Oct 2011
                • 1166

                #22
                Iggy is a better defender than LeBriggy? Na brah.

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                • kwebbvols4423
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                  • Jul 2011
                  • 2627

                  #23
                  Re: NBA Live 15 Player Ratings Revealed - Top 5 Defenders

                  Glad to see TA as a 95 on defense. I am guessing they screwed up his face pretty bad if they put a back shot up of him.
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                  • Jakeness23
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 872

                    #24
                    Re: NBA Live 15 Player Ratings Revealed - Top 5 Defenders

                    Originally posted by NBALIVE_Fernando
                    I could see why you would think players are high but, we're only showing the best players.

                    Looking forward to your feedback when the season starts up.
                    Hey thanks for the response. But I will say that for next year, from what I've seen so far, the 2 things that need the most work is how the players look from the broadcast camera (they look REALLY good up close, but backed away they look plasticy again) and smoothening out the animations, still tends to look a little jerky. If association and rising star get some upgrades it'll be a huge year for Live 16. But I like the direction that 15 is going in.
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                    • _Fernando
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                      • Mar 2014
                      • 235

                      #25
                      Re: NBA Live 15 Player Ratings Revealed - Top 5 Defenders

                      Originally posted by Playmakers
                      So since everything is being handled by Synergy I wonder if EA is taking this kind of data and utilizing it to rank the defenders

                      This was in reference to Chandler Parsons

                      "According to Synergy Sports, Parsons ranked 190th as an overall defender last season, allowing 0.88 points per possession. He ranked 219th in isolation (0.93) and 204th in post-up situations (0.94). Parsons was well above average guarding pick-and-roll ballhandlers, ranking 70th and allowing 0.74 points per possession."


                      This probably won't get a feedback but I'd love to know if Synergy will handle some of the defensive data in Live 15 (like it will for the offense)

                      Could you rephrase your question? I'd love to answer it.
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                      • Playmakers
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 15419

                        #26
                        Re: NBA Live 15 Player Ratings Revealed - Top 5 Defenders

                        Originally posted by NBALIVE_Fernando
                        Could you rephrase your question? I'd love to answer it.
                        I was giving you an example of how Chandler Parsons graded out last year based on synergy data for him defensively and was wondering if EA uses this data......

                        So my question would be are you guys using the synergy data to dictate individual defense and team defense in the game(s) or is that end of the floor purely controlledby EA ratings own assigned ratings each player?
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                        • _Fernando
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                          • Mar 2014
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                          #27
                          Re: NBA Live 15 Player Ratings Revealed - Top 5 Defenders

                          Originally posted by Playmakers
                          I was giving you an example of how Chandler Parsons graded out last year based on synergy data for him defensively and was wondering if EA uses this data......

                          So my question would be are you guys using the synergy data to dictate individual defense and team defense in the game(s) or is that end of the floor purely controlledby EA ratings own assigned ratings each player?
                          Gotcha.

                          Synergy has lots of good information. The tricky part is "translating" it.

                          If we decided to say, the #1 person in Isolation defense is our best on ball defender, we would end up with Brook Lopez as our best defender.

                          I don't think any of us would be happy with that result.

                          So, I've been setting the ratings and using a few synergy categories, weighing each of them differently. I feel like it gets about 80% of it lining up correctly and then we adjust where the numbers don't line up with the guys expectations of where they should be in the scheme of things. It's not where I want to end up but, we'll be tweaking it.

                          For help defense, I use some synergy and mesh it with some APM and DRTG.
                          Within synergy, I look at how players do against the PnR and Cut situations.

                          As the season progresses, the new numbers will get thrown in the mix and we should see defensive changes throughout the season.

                          Does that answer your question?
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                          • Playmakers
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 15419

                            #28
                            Re: NBA Live 15 Player Ratings Revealed - Top 5 Defenders

                            Originally posted by NBALIVE_Fernando
                            Gotcha.

                            Synergy has lots of good information. The tricky part is "translating" it.

                            If we decided to say, the #1 person in Isolation defense is our best on ball defender, we would end up with Brook Lopez as our best defender.

                            I don't think any of us would be happy with that result.

                            So, I've been setting the ratings and using a few synergy categories, weighing each of them differently. I feel like it gets about 80% of it lining up correctly and then we adjust where the numbers don't line up with the guys expectations of where they should be in the scheme of things. It's not where I want to end up but, we'll be tweaking it.

                            For help defense, I use some synergy and mesh it with some APM and DRTG.
                            Within synergy, I look at how players do against the PnR and Cut situations.

                            As the season progresses, the new numbers will get thrown in the mix and we should see defensive changes throughout the season.

                            Does that answer your question?
                            Yes Sir 100%

                            I've been following your work with the ratings and I will admit you do actively listen to the NBA Live fans.

                            I know it's possible to get every player rated right but I think you have done a great job with your research.
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                            • CliffPierre
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                              • Feb 2014
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                              #29
                              Re: NBA Live 15 Player Ratings Revealed - Top 5 Defenders

                              Going by stats from last season, last time I looked up Lebron's defensive stats, he was playing the worst defense he had in a while.

                              Melo and Durant beat him out in a few categories. Of course, Lebron had a larger sample because he played more games. But Lebron wasn't all-world.

                              Maybe I interpreted the stats wrong, but even my eye test showed me that Lebron's active defense has been overhyped for a while, most notably last season.

                              He's still quick and can "guard" a PG like Tony Parker for a few possessions but that just tires him out and it was only effective because the Heat doubled the PG at the perimeter and Lebron and Bosh were too tall for most guards to see over well.

                              But I guess it all comes down to context in that case.

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