FIFA 15's Tactics Are a Disappointing Mystery

**zarzelius** · 10-06-2014, 04:01 PM

Hi there guys. I loved the analysis. This is why i was waiting this year to see if i bought it or not. Im starting to think ill go with PES this year.
If you dont know me, i made a mod, which was used in FIFA 14 with Matt10 sliders. (you can still find the mod on his thread for FIFA 14 sliders) which brought back to the game long shots, physical play , better AI and other stuff.
I have no idea if the commands and files we used to tweak in order to mod the old engine, will work on the new one. That is why , i still not sure if i should spend the 40 bucks just to, then, fail at doing anything like i did with the previous game.
And now i see even more people complaining about how tactics arent taken in account by the AI, which gives me even more doubts that , even with modding, anything can be done.
I guess ill wait a bit more time, see if others can check if the modding system is the same, and then maybe, go try with this one.
If any of you would like to take my mod from Matt sliders thread, and try to "port" it to fifa15, please do!. Just knowing that it CAN be done, is a huge plus for all of us here at OS.
Cya, and again, great post.

**Gosens6** · 10-06-2014, 04:57 PM

I noticed your comment about Madden. Funny thing is, the cpu ai rarely passes the ball more than 10 yards down the field. Disappointing to hear this about fifa as I was planning on picking it up

**xSubzer0x** · 10-06-2014, 05:39 PM

Re: FIFA 15's Tactics Are a Disappointing Mystery

It's still a VERY fun game guys.

**TheLetterZ** · 10-06-2014, 05:49 PM

Re: FIFA 15's Tactics Are a Disappointing Mystery

Originally posted by xSubzer0x

It's still a VERY fun game guys.

I'm happy for you that you're enjoying the game but please don't pretend like everyone who doesn't have the same preferences you do is misguided or confused.

**Krebstar** · 10-06-2014, 05:51 PM

Re: FIFA 15's Tactics Are a Disappointing Mystery

Originally posted by xSubzer0x

It's still a VERY fun game guys.

It's clear that some people don't realize how subjective "fun" is. We all want different things from the game, and above that, there are certain groups of us who want certain things from the game.

For some of us, fun means realism, and realism means a variety of play and attacks from the AI opposition.

Without that, the game isn't very fun to me. It just isn't. But I understand that to some people, that will not factor into how fun they think they game is.

Just throwing that out there, as it seems many people don't understand why some of us who are caught up on this don't see the game as fun. It's not that it can't be fun for us—it's just that the elements to provide the fun for us are missing or are currently not working.

In short, some of us are really nerdy, and really picky.

**gopher_guy** · 10-06-2014, 05:55 PM

Re: FIFA 15's Tactics Are a Disappointing Mystery

I just get confused by the hardcore sim people who are upset by these games every year.

You have to know what you're getting with this game, right? I mean, has FIFA ever been a wonderful sim game? It's just not going to change in a year.

**TheLetterZ** · 10-06-2014, 06:02 PM

Re: FIFA 15's Tactics Are a Disappointing Mystery

Originally posted by gopher_guy

I just get confused by the hardcore sim people who are upset by these games every year.

You have to know what you're getting with this game, right? I mean, has FIFA ever been a wonderful sim game? It's just not going to change in a year.

It's never been a wonderful sim game but it's been a passable sim game with a lot of other strong elements, thanks to the terrific work done by certain people, several of whom are in this thread.

FIFA 15 in its current state is not a passable sim game.

**Hitwise** · 10-06-2014, 06:09 PM

Re: FIFA 15's Tactics Are a Disappointing Mystery

How come editing team tactics is not working this year?

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**zarzelius** · 10-06-2014, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by gopher_guy

I just get confused by the hardcore sim people who are upset by these games every year.

You have to know what you're getting with this game, right? I mean, has FIFA ever been a wonderful sim game? It's just not going to change in a year.

The thing is, with sliders and the modding community, we have been able to enjoy the game. I've played fifa 14 for over 3000 hours after finally using Matt sliders and my gameplay mod. It took us both a couple of months but after that, it was a great game and as close as FIFa can get to sim. Now, the same happened with 13, and even when i didnt play 12, i know this community always worked towards getting the game to be what each finds fun. Be it sim, or arcade or whatever, we have been able to tweak it to our liking. The problem with ignite engine apparently , is that is so unfinished that even the sliders and the ingame tactics dont stick.Dont work, so i dont know how far we , the guys who love to tweak it to match our style, can do this year. :S
Sad face, sad face, looks to PES on november..... :P

**Hitwise** · 10-06-2014, 06:47 PM

Re: FIFA 15's Tactics Are a Disappointing Mystery

Has anyone tried playing a few games with CPU pass error close to default. I would not call it long ball, but I do see more variety and if you play good positional D with marking at 44 and adjust the lines it is not an "every team is Barca" nightmare.

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**orion523** · 10-06-2014, 07:01 PM

Re: FIFA 15's Tactics Are a Disappointing Mystery

I was a little frustrated earlier with some things so I may have been overly harsh, as I certainly don't want to be confused with one of those types who frequent the EA site if you know what I mean lol.
Overall taking the entire package into consideration, FIFA 15 is a really good game. The physics, player movement, ball physics, plus all of the bells and whistles are top notch and really well done. It's this fact that makes what the game doesn't do well, tactical diversity, seem magnified. IMO there is a bug in the code related to the introduction of the new tactics that is causing the CTT not to work as intended. Now maybe that's me being hopeful, but there's simply no reason to remove something so important as the CTT's for no good reason.
Time will tell if there actually is an issue or not, let's just hope that there is.

**mfp** · 10-06-2014, 07:21 PM

I agree with everything you said except in regards to defending. Yes, it's improved in some areas, but it's still pretty poor, and VERY inadequate relative the attacking prowess on offer.

**markus48** · 10-06-2014, 07:24 PM

With very minimal sliders changed so far, I have noticed an improvement in how the CPU teams play, but more based on how much time is left rather than what team they are. I was up 1-0 on world class against Borussia Monchengladladbach and they were sending long ball after long ball compared to the first 80 minutes where they were just doing tika-taka.

**bballshawn24** · 10-06-2014, 08:34 PM

not trolling at all but, thats why you need PES. once you get past playing FUT which i hate fifa is pretty dull

**DBMcGee3** · 10-07-2014, 08:34 AM

I would love to see more variety from the CPU, but it's far from a deal breaker for me. I still have lots of fun playing the game, and when you get the chance to play against a friend, I find it to be a truly great experience. I'm quite sure I'll still be picking up PES in November, but FIFA does enough things right that I'll keep playing it as well.

FIFA 15's Tactics Are a Disappointing Mystery

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