Madden NFL 15 Title Update #2 Available Now, Details Included

[4thQtrStre5S]

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Ha, ha....I don't know what bearing a "former offensive lineman" has on the argument. He is "currently" under the employ of EA, from whence he draws his paycheck.

Jus' sayin'.......

***I acknowledge the fact that one does not even have to play the game of football to have a full and very acute understanding of how the game is played and all it's intricacies and fundamentals, etc etc.

So Clint Oldenburg still, in his years in the NFL and CFL, only played in 2 games. Maybe that means he had a lot of time learning the game from the sidelines; but if it does, I am not seeing it in OL and DL interactions; I am still seeing OL players going away from the nearest threat, double teaming while letting another defender rush in untouched; now this could be the result of bad AI programming, a collection of poorly made plays that should be removed, poorly balanced ratings between players and positions, or any combination of the above potential issues..

I have literally watched offensive linemen move out of the way of a blitzing player, as if in fear; I have watched a Safety, Roman Harper, stand over Pittsburgh's Center Pouncey and just push him to one side and sack the QB within 1 - 1.4 seconds after the snap. SMH... And sliders do not seem to fix anything, but make issues more muddied...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_Oldenburg

[StefJoeHalt]

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This line right here made me laugh and sad at the same time cause it's true..."Why yet again I'm playing another Madden that I both love and hate. It's like an abusive relationship."

Just to make clear..clint said there now is a sack issue..but the fix was to "big"..however could not give us any tips for a possible work around


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[wordtobigbird]

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Back to the patch discussion..

I think think the gameplay is balanced very very nicely. Just held a packer user to 10 points with the Cheifs. The lone touchdown a blown coverage where I spotlighted Nelson and Smith was caught peeking at him and like Boykin get deep. My fault not prodiving over the top adjustment to protect that. Rest of game we shut him down. Many clutch stops. Got an INT, dropped at LEAST 3 or 4 more. Berry snagged a great one and dropped another so thats okay. Good to see a great player standout on defense. Thankfully he refused to bring an extra man into the box to defend the run so that's how I was able to move offensively. I play the take what they give you game and it worked out for me to a 14-10 win with a 2 4th down stops before he quit. Don't remember ever being able to play these kind of games online.

Hopefully I can learn how to rush the passer because I enjoy trying and if I can get good at it man will it open up my defense. Only thing that kills me is I don't like to blitz too much due to the easy throws behind it if the person your playing can read it. I really never blitz against shotgun either because I always am a second too late. A lot of people use shotgun only so I go with a 4 man rush and mix up coverages and alignment behind it to try and confuse my opponent. Working while I'm at this skill level at least.

I know they won't but I wish they'd patch the hit stick. They make it so easy for players to use it with any defender. Should be much more of a risk reward system.

[azdawgpound]

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This line right here made me laugh and sad at the same time cause it's true..."Why yet again I'm playing another Madden that I both love and hate. It's like an abusive relationship."

Just to make clear..clint said there now is a sack issue..but the fix was to "big"..however could not give us any tips for a possible work around


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that's because I don't think there is a fix u can max out pass protect and still get 5-6 sacks a game even changing the qb's traits which some did to try get the qb get rid ball faster didn't work.


I've even edited de's, dt's traits etc and nothing.

[wordtobigbird]

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This line right here made me laugh and sad at the same time cause it's true..."Why yet again I'm playing another Madden that I both love and hate. It's like an abusive relationship."

Just to make clear..clint said there now is a sack issue..but the fix was to "big"..however could not give us any tips for a possible work around


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Hopefully they realize they need to fix the QB AI.

[Flamehead]

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Actually, my qualifications as a site admin give me access to the user base numbers, which is what I was commenting on. I have tried explaining that there are millions of people with the game outside of OS. Hell, if anything I'm taking a shot at the site I help run to explain that we aren't the end all be all of sports gaming.

You need to focus on that point. If there are users here not seeing the sack issue, it's entirely possible that there are more users not seeing the problem than the group here that have a tendency to be more meticulous in regarding to specific gameplay aspects. And when you start tweaking something for a minority, you risk screwing it up for the majority.

Just an example: Let's say the CPU starts throwing the ball before the sack. There is no 'throw the ball at the feet of the receiver' mechanism in Madden. He can't throw the ball away unless he scrambles (the majority of the held balls that I have experienced have been between the tackles) because it would be Intentional Grounding. So you now have CPU QB throwing the ball under pressure to receivers who may be covered. Now you have more interceptions, something that has been an issue with the game in the past. It's give and take, and I can't even begin to imagine how hard it is to find that line with the different talent levels of the current userbase.


Also, let me remind you that attacking/insulting users of this site, including staff, is an offense that you can be banned for. So please try to continue this conversation in a manner that focuses more on the game and not on your opinions of my bias (which I have proven multiple times over on this site is not with any developer).

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And let me remind you Millennium, that this conversation was focused on the game, and that there were no “attacks” or “insults” to anyone here, least of all from me to you. Were you not just as adamant that “we guys” (pejorative) were arguing from a “bias”? Was that an attack? Was that an insult? I would think certainly no more or less than wondering what your motives might be in responding to the criticisms of the patch in the condescending manner in which you did.

Contrast that with the other posts here agreeing with your position on the patch and who articulated as such to me in a cordial manner. It’s as if (notice I said “as if”) you believe everyone here are idiots and you post responses as such (notice I didn’t say you called anyone idiots…I really shouldn’t have to qualify this). Moreover, if you want to start lobbing the “…and there it is” grenades, I could say the same about the ban talk. Respect is a two way street.

To the topic at hand, please don’t tell me what I “need to focus on” (again condescending). I perfectly understand your point and I vehemently disagree with it, and do so for reasons opposite of yours, which I’ve stated repeatedly in my previous posts. I know you can handle that.

[Flamehead]

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as I tell my 8 year old....you are certainly entitled to your opinion...

;o)

Take care!

Haha, as are you. You take care as well.

[KingV2k3]

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Agree / disagree / agree to disagree / or not, it's obvious that's there's a MAJOR issue with this title and I'm not surprised folks are disappointed / angry that the patch didn't even remotely address it...

Even more disappointing is the fact that the developers now acknowledge the issue, but still won't be able to correct it...

Like any middle aged man, I take "my golf" (gaming) addiction kinda seriously and I'm not happy to have to play the course in the condition it's in this year...

[Millennium]

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As stated before, let's all get back on to talk about the patch. Martyrs swing conversation so aptly to their side these days.

[kidanything2]

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1, the people complaining about too many sacks must be trying their damndest to get them. I had 3 people with double digit sacks, and 4 people with over 5. Yes that's high, but my highest also only had 15 or so, I'd have to go back and look to be exact. 15 is nowhere near the record, but in two seasons I broke, then re-broke the rushing record (with ease.) Yes, there are a lot of sacks, but it's not astronomical unless you really try.

Which leads to 2. The game the way it is requires all the sacks. Sacks are the ABSOLUTE ONLY way I stop the CPU. The average number of times I see incomplete passes in game, as in a QB throws a normal route and it high low, left, or right and lands near the receiver is probably under 1. I see incomplete passes from disruptive hits, throwing bombs on 4th and 20 something, the receiver being out of bounds, or dropped interceptions. But rarely from the QB just missing. Why? Because the coverage is abysmal (THE REAL PROBLEM FOR 10 YEARS). That's what I see as the real problem. People rarely stay in their zones, and man coverage is non-existant. Everyone is just open on almost every play.

All that said, if the sacks weren't there, IDK how I'd ever stop the CPU. I play on All-Pro with no sliders and I think there are so many things wrong with this game, fixing the sacks would just make it worse.

[kehlis]

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1, the people complaining about too many sacks must be trying their damndest to get them.

I'm not trying at all, I control a safety every play.

Why would people who are trying to get as many sacks as possible complain about too many sacks? It's important to understand that while there are some people who just complain to complain there are also an equal (if not more) amount of people who want to enjoy the game and are expressing their frustration with a certain aspect.

I really like this game, but there are certain times that the defense takes over for me with sacks and it feels like I'm getting artificial stops.

[l8knight1]

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QB stances/styles are still broke even though EA said they fixed them there's few post where ppl took pics in game and in player edit under styles and neither matched up

They are not 'broke' or broken if that's what you were trying to say. QB styles are the same as Madden 25 post patch, where they were not functioning as they did in 25 pre-patch. There's nothing in your post that suggests you even tested them. You just made your own conclusions from posts. I'm surprised how I unconstructive this thread has gotten. I'm enjoying the game and will try to post anything I can find relative to this topic if I can.

[kingsofthevalley]

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As far as simulation stats and keeping it as authentic to real life...it's an issue. Not going to sugar coat that.

But....all that being said things IMO get way too blown out of proportion. My advice is always play the game....play it a lot before passing judgement. And if after multiple games you still don't like it....no worries...trade it in. But there are those that are loving Madden 15 (cough me cough) and are dealing with the sack issue just fine. I would say there are games it can rear it's ugly head...and it is usually against pocket QB's with poor pocket presence (lower tier guys) and every now and then I have had some big sack games vs elite like guys in the pocket (Peyton and Tom) but they still went up top on me and nailed some big long TD passes. I have had so many games elite QB's have killed me deep. So this talk of they never go deep......not seeing it. I have played 45-50 games now between testing and CFM.....QB play is solid. And lower tier QB's really do suck when i get pressure on them. They make errant throws...and now with the patch it will be more evident.

Play the game a lot...then make your judgement. Everyone plays the game differently, everyone has different skill levels, stick skills, house rules.....whatever. There is no right or wrong opinion.......they are just that opinions. Some players are too good to play the CPU...and I see this in all sports game sub forums here. So take impressions with a grain of salt until you really cut your teeth in the game yourself.

So the sack issue can be really magnified...or minor...all depends on how you want to look at it. I think the game is way too much fun for me to harp and worry about getting 4-5 sack games with Cam Wake sometimes.....oh well. Guess I will get the sack record every year.

In year one I got the sack record with Wake.....I went 5-11. And had one of the worst defenses against the run.

In week 12 of year two...I am on another torrid pace with Wake again (as well as Jordan and Starks) but now my pass defense is down and my run defense has improved....I drafted a stud MLB but am starting a rookie CB and have an aging CB in Grimes. I won my first 7 games...now I have dropped 3 straight. For me the game has been a joy. The patch is exactly what I expected. Fix offline CFM, fix stability bugs (I can now start a 32 team offline CFM without the game screen hangup as I tested that first this morning before heading to the office), commentary bugs, defensive play clock being to quick to make your play selection and tune the AI (adaptive AI on defense tuned according to the notes). My opinion of course.....but I don't understand if your a Madden fan how you can't be superbly impressed with this game. It's easily the best one yet.

So take that for what it's worth.

On a side note I had the intro bug hit me once.....and I thought I had read that you just need to make sure you close the application when you exit out of the game and not to ever exit out and then go to shut down. it will corrupt your profile file if you do that. As long as you close the game application first then shut down your PS4 you should be fine. I have been doing that....and it has not ever happened since.



I would love to see any impressions of improved commentary and stat swipes of previous week stats not showing all zeros anymore.

I won't be able to dig into any game playing till 10PM EST

Appreciate the feedback man. I think that you and I see the game through the same lens, thats just a conclusion I've come to after reading all of your posts when you respond. I'm not dragging anyone else under the bus, but I really don't trust many of the posts I see here saying the game is worthless, broken, etc, and THATS a conclusion I've come to after being on OS for MULTIPLE Madden releases. One question for you, are you changing your sliders up for this second title update?

If you're changing your sliders, probably means I'll be changing my own. I usually take the top three slider posts, (ex. yours, SEC, etc) get the average of the numbers, and tweak a bit left or right based on my own needs which usually gets my play time damn near perfect.

[ballgameronny]

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So is offline owners mode still broken?

[Kramer5150]

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1, the people complaining about too many sacks must be trying their damndest to get them.Yes, there are a lot of sacks, but it's not astronomical unless you really try.

Are you serious with this?? you better believe if my LB is blitzing I'm gonna do everything I can to get to the QB. But as Kehlis mentioned...it's just not about user controlled players it's the cpu controlled players as well...the whole point of a Dlineman is to get pressure in a passing situation,as well as sending either a LB,corner or safety blitz...so according to your logic,we should all just sit back and not attempt to get any pressure?...it's due to bad cpu A.I dude...it's not about "trying to hard"

Which leads to 2. The game the way it is requires all the sacks. Sacks are the ABSOLUTE ONLY way I stop the CPU.
All that said, if the sacks weren't there, IDK how I'd ever stop the CPU. I play on All-Pro with no sliders and I think there are so many things wrong with this game, fixing the sacks would just make it worse.

So wait a minute....because YOU can't stop the cpu,5-7 sacks a game is your answer for everybody? I'm just totally confused by all of this.

This last part I quoted seems to be more of a user issue than anything else...myself and I'm sure other folks can stop the cpu,can we stop them all the time? nope...but I don't want the game to be decided on the cpu QB taking 3 sacks to kill a drive....especially a potential game winning drive...which is what happened to me earlier.