Madden NFL 15 Title Update #2 Available Now, Details Included

**Gorilla Glass** · 10-09-2014, 10:05 AM

Re: Madden NFL 15 Title Update #2 Available Now, Details Included

Originally posted by wordtobigbird

Wait.. what..? Could you explain that please?

How would they have to restrict the user in order to make a sim game? How would improving the CPU AI so we get less sacks be restricting the user? It would actually get the user more involved as it would be harder to stop the CPU. But that's just one small example. If they had better WR/DB interaction how would that restrict the user?

I'm confused.

So you would want it realistic as in false starts and holding calls? You want all the realism that exists in a real NFL game to slow it down?

The interactions between CB and WR is wanted, but not game changing. I'm enjoying the game in its current state.

I'm not looking to breakdown the game every time I fire it up. I enjoy it for what it is.

**wordtobigbird** · 10-09-2014, 10:11 AM

Re: Madden NFL 15 Title Update #2 Available Now, Details Included

Originally posted by Gorilla Glass

So you would want it realistic as in false starts and holding calls? You want all the realism that exists in a real NFL game to slow it down?

The interactions between CB and WR is wanted, but not game changing. I'm enjoying the game in its current state.

I'm not looking to breakdown the game every time I fire it up. I enjoy it for what it is.

LOL I like how you completely dodged that question. I repeat, how does making the game more sim RESTRICT the user and make it any less of a videogame?

First of all, false starts and holding have been in previous Madden's and have been the only penalties in Madden for most of its lifetime. So yes I want all the realism that exist in the NFL. Which includes penalties. How much will it slow the game down? Um maybe 5 seconds? Have you ever got a penalty in Madden. Did you take a 5 minute TV timeout or something? You get a penalty. Accept it. Back to the game. Hardly slows down anything, not that it ever happens.

You don't have to breakdown the game everytime you play it. But if you can't see the problem with the AI you are just ignorantly bliss. I don't have to breakdown anything when I watch the QB consistently run into my left end. I understand you don't get why people are complaining because YOU enjoy the product. Hell I enjoy i too, but I can't turn a blind eye to obvious flaws.

Either way, you are trying to make it seem like they CANT make the game more realistic because it would hurt the user. Please explain how...

**dkp23** · 10-09-2014, 10:15 AM

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So the slim playcallscreen is optional right? it is on by default now or can you switch back to the bigger and laggier one?

**Gorilla Glass** · 10-09-2014, 10:22 AM

Re: Madden NFL 15 Title Update #2 Available Now, Details Included

Originally posted by wordtobigbird

LOL I like how you completely dodged that question. I repeat, how does making the game more sim RESTRICT the user and make it any less of a videogame?

First of all, false starts and holding have been in previous Madden's and have been the only penalties in Madden for most of its lifetime. So yes I want all the realism that exist in the NFL. Which includes penalties. How much will it slow the game down? Um maybe 5 seconds? Have you ever got a penalty in Madden. Did you take a 5 minute TV timeout or something? You get a penalty. Accept it. Back to the game. Hardly slows down anything, not that it ever happens.

You don't have to breakdown the game everytime you play it. But if you can't see the problem with the AI you are just ignorantly bliss. I don't have to breakdown anything when I watch the QB consistently run into my left end. I understand you don't get why people are complaining because YOU enjoy the product. Hell I enjoy i too, but I can't turn a blind eye to obvious flaws.

Either way, you are trying to make it seem like they CANT make the game more realistic because it would hurt the user. Please explain how...

Yeah everything has flaws, that's why God created message boards.lol

No matter how 'realistic' or arcade they make the game, it will.still be nit picked about something or another.

I look forward to Madden every year because I love football and it does a good job representing every major aspect of the game. Yeah it has flaws and no it's not perfect, but it's to my liking and that's what it's all about.

Sorry but I can't bring myself to complaining every year about minute stuff.

Madden is what it is, slow down, realise that and enjoy...

**rudyjuly2** · 10-09-2014, 10:25 AM

Re: Madden NFL 15 Title Update #2 Available Now, Details Included

Originally posted by dkp23

So the slim playcallscreen is optional right? it is on by default now or can you switch back to the bigger and laggier one?

For me it wasn't on by default. I had to turn it on. There isn't much difference. I like it on since I can see more of the screen on replays and that every time I cycle through the formations I don't get the extra info that pops up. But you can't cycle through the different sub-formations at the main screen either which I'm personally fine with.

**Sturzinator** · 10-09-2014, 10:31 AM

Re: Madden NFL 15 Title Update #2 Available Now, Details Included

Originally posted by wordtobigbird

LOL I like how you completely dodged that question. I repeat, how does making the game more sim RESTRICT the user and make it any less of a videogame?

First of all, false starts and holding have been in previous Madden's and have been the only penalties in Madden for most of its lifetime. So yes I want all the realism that exist in the NFL. Which includes penalties. How much will it slow the game down? Um maybe 5 seconds? Have you ever got a penalty in Madden. Did you take a 5 minute TV timeout or something? You get a penalty. Accept it. Back to the game. Hardly slows down anything, not that it ever happens.

You don't have to breakdown the game everytime you play it. But if you can't see the problem with the AI you are just ignorantly bliss. I don't have to breakdown anything when I watch the QB consistently run into my left end. I understand you don't get why people are complaining because YOU enjoy the product. Hell I enjoy i too, but I can't turn a blind eye to obvious flaws.

Either way, you are trying to make it seem like they CANT make the game more realistic because it would hurt the user. Please explain how...

Looks like the Gorilla has dug himself a deep hole.......lol.

**JonPaste** · 10-09-2014, 10:38 AM

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Ok here's the real deal. Post patch I like it. Seems the cpu QB is still to good but I play on all madden and set that to 8 and it's real now. Everything seemss to be fine, I don't mind getting sacks and them getting sacks. My issue is every game I've played if I'm up my team will sack them every third down when they are trying to tie or win. Every time. Sometimes I don't mind cause it does happen in real life. But every damn game it does this.
It takes away the fun cause in the 4th the cpu plays great and you get to the edge of your seat and all the sudden. Sack, sack, sack, sack. Imo this kills the game for me, makes it boring. The only times this game works for me is when I'm losing and the one coming back.
So until the sacks are fixed this game ultimately sucks. I know people that want to win 100% of the time and will cry if they don't and they love it. They yell "Yes he sacked him again, my ball"
I like it when I beat them and I really beat them.

**fistofrage** · 10-09-2014, 11:05 AM

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For those who are seeing too many sacks, have you adjusted the holding slider at all?

The penalty sliders do two things and its an either/or:

1. They Trigger animations happening more often like the facemask animation.
2. They Prevent the AI players from doing things for fear of getting a penalty.

At default sliders and default penalties, I did not see a real sack problem. I also did not see any holding penalties.

My theory would be that people who see a ton of sacks may have moved the holding slider to try to get some calls and the AI players are releasing their blocks too soon to prevent the penalty being called.

I'm not in any way doubting that the sack issue exists. I just haven't seen it, and trying to figure out why.

**GMEN36** · 10-09-2014, 11:21 AM

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**Icelandair** · 10-09-2014, 11:28 AM

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There might be too many sacks but I see them as balancing out the absurd lack of penalties. Given the almost total absence of offensive penalties, it is the only way you will ever see 2 and 20 in the game. Since penalties in real life are also drive killers, two or three drives killed by sacks in the game seem to equal the drives killed by a penalty in real life. Without sacks or penalties the offenses might be too potent.

**Davon_A_Brown** · 10-09-2014, 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by Icelandair

There might be too many sacks but I see them as balancing out the absurd lack of penalties. Given the almost total absence of offensive penalties, it is the only way you will ever see 2 and 20 in the game. Since penalties in real life are also drive killers, two or three drives killed by sacks in the game seem to equal the drives killed by a penalty in real life. Without sacks or penalties the offenses might be too potent.

That's one way to look at it...

Th3 Chos3n On3

**kehlis** · 10-09-2014, 12:38 PM

Re: Madden NFL 15 Title Update #2 Available Now, Details Included

Originally posted by Gorilla Glass

I'm not talking to anyone like their idiots, but it's not up to me how you interpret posts.

I think EA should leave the game alone and that's just my opinion.

And that's fine, I agree 100%

I struggle with the accusation that some of us are nitpicking the game. I am not a nitpicker of games at all, I very much enjoy this game with this one issue which is drastically affecting the game as it's played on the field which should be our first concern.

Like I said, I'm glad it's not affecting you and if that were the case for me I wouldn't campaign for change either.

Just not sure why you decided to get on a pedestal and tell those of us that see this issue that we are wrong for pointing this out since it plays fine for you.

**NicVirtue** · 10-09-2014, 12:45 PM

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It's not really nitpicking if it's being held to a standard that the developer set themselves. Seems fair to me. But it's been made clear who wants and cares about sim football, and who doesn't. No point in beating that horse anymore.

**JonPaste** · 10-09-2014, 12:52 PM

Re: Madden NFL 15 Title Update #2 Available Now, Details Included

The loading screen happens all the time, when it gets stuck simply reset the game go back in and set auto delegate to the improvements then play. I figured the patch would fix this but nope.
Also I never touched the holding or any penalties. I don't need penalties. I need less sacks.

**kehlis** · 10-09-2014, 12:53 PM

Re: Madden NFL 15 Title Update #2 Available Now, Details Included

Originally posted by Icelandair

There might be too many sacks but I see them as balancing out the absurd lack of penalties. Given the almost total absence of offensive penalties, it is the only way you will ever see 2 and 20 in the game. Since penalties in real life are also drive killers, two or three drives killed by sacks in the game seem to equal the drives killed by a penalty in real life. Without sacks or penalties the offenses might be too potent.

Penalties aren't (usually) a loss of down so big difference there.

Originally posted by fistofrage

For those who are seeing too many sacks, have you adjusted the holding slider at all?

The penalty sliders do two things and its an either/or:

1. They Trigger animations happening more often like the facemask animation.

2. They Prevent the AI players from doing things for fear of getting a penalty.

At default sliders and default penalties, I did not see a real sack problem. I also did not see any holding penalties.

My theory would be that people who see a ton of sacks may have moved the holding slider to try to get some calls and the AI players are releasing their blocks too soon to prevent the penalty being called.

I'm not in any way doubting that the sack issue exists. I just haven't seen it, and trying to figure out why.

I saw something somewhere (twitter maybe) that turning up the intentional grounding slider has a positive effect. I'm going to check it out later.

Madden NFL 15 Title Update #2 Available Now, Details Included

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