NBA 2K15 Review: A Great Game on the Court Marred by Missteps Off Of It (PS4)

[TheLetterZ]

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Fair enough.

Thing is, a ton of people are going to see the score and nothing else. (I myself have fallen into this trap before.)

I'm starting to see why people like Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw refuse to give a numerical score to games. It's really, really hard to express a complex personal opinion through something as simple as a single number--which is one reason why sabermetric stats like Player Efficiency Rating still have their detractors.

I think it would've been best, in this case, to go the route others here have suggested: One score for offline, the other for online. But then again, I realize that's not how Operation Sports rolls.

If people won't read it, there's nothing I can do. As you pointed out, you can't express something with a single number. People have to read.

(I completely agree about PER by the way.)

I don't get why reviewers rag on the servers so much... like they're never going to be sorted? LOL, about a month from now you're all going to have to go back and re-write your reviews. Enjoy the extra work.

I fully intend to revisit the review in the future when the servers are hopefully good. But it's my job to write about the game as it is now — not to write about an imaginary future version of the game that may or may not happen.

[TheLetterZ]

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Ouch............Do I feel online shouldve took that much off the top of the score...Nope...but when you are touting online modes as your main selling point and the servers are poo...its warranted ..

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I can understand why it seems like my thought process was, "This game would be a 9 but the servers are bad so I'm going to dock 2 points," but that wasn't actually how I went about it.

I considered how my overall experience of the game was right now and compared it to Operation Sports's scoring scale.

When I did, I found that a 7 nailed it. "A game that is pretty good because it plays well, but that has notable flaws that keep it from being great."

It felt like the perfect summary of the game.

[zrtelford]

agree completely. Maybe after a patch or two It would raise (if reviews did that) to an 8-8.5. the presentation glitches are an egregious oversight. How missing overlays and player of the game highlights show up 1 out of three times got through testing baffles me.

[amedawg00]

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Thank you for acknowledging the gimped online leagues in 2k15. This review is spot on. For years, reviewers swept 2k's abysmal servers under the rug. This is the price you pay when you want to make your game modes online dependent without the proper infrastructure.

[TheLetterZ]

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Thank you for acknowledging the gimped online leagues in 2k15. This review is spot on. For years, reviewers swept 2k's abysmal servers under the rug. This is the price you pay when you want to make your game modes online dependent without the proper infrastructure.

Thanks.

By the way, I find it enjoyably ironic that your avatar is of NBA League Pass Broadband, another service notorious for shoddy network infrastructure.

[Bornindamecca]

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Great write up. The developers and designers earned an 8.5 or a 9, but the technical staff and the executives who pay for them deserve a 1 for launch week.

[JohnDoe8865]

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Excellent review of the game as it currently stands.

[swac07]

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I can understand why it seems like my thought process was, "This game would be a 9 but the servers are bad so I'm going to dock 2 points," but that wasn't actually how I went about it.

I considered how my overall experience of the game was right now and compared it to Operation Sports's scoring scale.

When I did, I found that a 7 nailed it. "A game that is pretty good because it plays well, but that has notable flaws that keep it from being great."

It felt like the perfect summary of the game.

Oh yeah I understand...im. not mad at the review at all ...hopefully 2k will use this as a wakeup call

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[The 24th Letter]

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Respect this review....I'm not a online player but it's unacceptable that online is in the condition its in....

Stop connecting modes to servers if the servers aren't up to par...this has been a horrible experience two years in a row for online guys...

[loso_34]

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input lag and billions of missed layups and overpowered offensive rebounds... this is the 1st time i have truly complained about 2k but dammit all i get is headaches from it. cant take it

Take smart shots. I can still finish layups with small guards....but if ur going into heavy traffic what do u expect?

[amedawg00]

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Thanks.

By the way, I find it enjoyably ironic that your avatar is of NBA League Pass Broadband, another service notorious for shoddy network infrastructure.

LOL...touche...I guess I am a glutton for punishment. League pass has greatly improved with the gametime app on xbox 360. Atleast the NBA has been responsive about improving league pass. 2k on the other hand serves online league heads platitudes of "we are providing feedback to the devs." When you do ask the devs direct questions about how gimped the OLs are this year...crickets.

[TheLetterZ]

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Respect this review....I'm not a online player but it's unacceptable that online is in the condition its in....

Stop connecting modes to servers if the servers aren't up to par...this has been a horrible experience two years in a row for online guys...

Right on. And that's the thing — I'm not much of an online player either.

But especially when large parts of the supposed "offline" experience rely on server connectivity ... this experience isn't okay.

[TheLetterZ]

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LOL...touche...I guess I am a glutton for punishment. League pass has greatly improved with the gametime app on xbox 360. Atleast the NBA has been responsive about improving league pass. 2k on the other hand serves online league heads platitudes of "we are providing feedback to the devs." When you do ask the devs direct questions about how gimped the OLs are this year...crickets.

You're right. League Pass is improving. But I couldn't resist pointing it out.

[Mauer4MVP]

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I guess in a way I may be lucky that they don't have Online MyLeague. As a strictly offline player, this is the greatest basketball game ever.

It's too bad that people are having such problems online and with the servers. They are really missing out.

[supermanemblem]

I'm not buying this game until I play it at my boy's house this weekend. I mainly play the CPU and the game would drive me crazy with the CPU shooting. They hardly ever miss, and I'm done with spending weeks moving sliders to get what I think is a good shooting percentage from the CPU. I see he commented on passing being better, but that's not saying much when the passing was garbage. My biggest beef is with my CPU controlled players playing like brain dead zombies. They display none of the skills that the CPU guys show. I know the game will never be like a real game, but it shouldn't feel like the winner was predetermined the minute I hit start. We shall see. I'm hoping I can go to best buy and get some rewards for this game.