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  • Gosens6
    All Star
    • Oct 2007
    • 6102

    #1

    You Knew It Was Coming... Points In The Paint.

    Seems like a yearly tradition here on OS and the NBA 2K forums, a points in the paint discussion.

    Once again, I'm seeing more than half of a teams points coming from in
    side the paint on a consistent basis. Lets take a look at all the issues I'm seeing.

    - Yes, guys are taking more jumpshots, but the majority of the pull up jumpers are from inside the paint, close to the basket, where the CPU seems to make almost everything

    - CPU offensive rebounding and their automatic putbacks. After nearly every missed CPU shot, someone from their team, could be a big, could be their PG, but if one of them comes down with the OREB, you can count on them going strait back up and making the layup, whether it be contested, or uncontested, it's going in. This leads to a ton of PIP that can be prevented if these shots weren't automatic for the CPU.

    - Still not enough contact in the paint in regards to USER defending a CPU drive or lay in. It seems like no matter what, the CPU has some invisible shield around itself that just prevents my big from sliding into position to block or disrupt the shot, and, when someone is in position, the CPU layup animation just seems to push my defender backwards so they can get an easy lay in. I had one instance today which made me shut my game off. CPU controlled Deron Williams drove to the hoop, as he went up for the layup, I had Larry Sanders in absolute PERFECT position to block the shot. I met him in the air, but instead of Sanders arm going forward to try and swat the shot, the game literally glitched and made his arm twitch BACKWARDS so he couldn't challenge the layup. I absolutely couldn't believe it.

    These issues are just killing me. For the very few guys saying they're holding CPU teams to 20-30 PIP each game, please let me know your secret, because no matter how good of defense I play, the CPU goes into unstoppable spin, crossover, spin robo mode until it throws up a wild shot that just swishes the majority of the time.

    So vote and weigh in on your experience with CPU PIP.

    Edit: Playing on AS sim, 11 minute quarters.
    106
    Just right, getting very realistic numbers.
    0%
    16
    In between, could definitely be improved on.
    0%
    33
    The CPU AI bullies it's way into the paint, and I can't stop them at all.
    0%
    57
  • Vni
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2011
    • 14833

    #2
    Re: You Knew It Was Coming... Points In The Paint.

    To me the only issue with the points in the paint is the offensive rebounds and putback by the CPU. Other than that I never feel helpless on defense.

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    • El_Poopador
      MVP
      • Oct 2013
      • 2624

      #3
      Re: You Knew It Was Coming... Points In The Paint.

      I haven't played a lot, but I haven't seen the CPU force their way into the paint like last year. I haven't seen the zig zag cheese that they do until your player slides out of the way. For the most part, the layups/dunks I've seen are more due to me overplaying on-ball defense and them taking advantage.

      Granted, I am still seeing a little too much offensive rebounding from the CPU. And rotations could be a little quicker from my CPU teammates if I do get blown by.

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      • The 24th Letter
        ERA
        • Oct 2007
        • 39373

        #4
        You Knew It Was Coming... Points In The Paint.

        Would be best if you post a video of you playing...seems like your literally seeing something crazy every possession by your posts...and it's getting more and more extreme..

        Not sure if your actually looking for some tips or if this this more of a "vent" post, but seeing what your experiencing first hand would yield be best results...

        EDIT: and yeah...the CPU putbacks aren't going to get any better until a patch...hopefully soon..

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        • Gosens6
          All Star
          • Oct 2007
          • 6102

          #5
          Re: You Knew It Was Coming... Points In The Paint.

          Originally posted by The 24th Letter
          Would be best if you post a video of you playing...seems like your literally seeing something crazy every possession by your posts...and it's getting more and more extreme..

          Not sure if your actually looking for some tips or if this this more of a "vent" post, but seeing what your experiencing first hand would yield be best results...
          It's a bit of both, venting because it's frustrating, definitely looking to see what other guys are doing to prevent this from happening.

          I know I'm not bad at the game, I still win a decent amount of time. I have a fairly respectable knowledge about the game of basketball and how to defend, it just feels literally impossible to defend in the paint sometimes. Particularly when the AI gets an offensive board, or anywhere close to where they can just throw up a shot.

          I have a video of the game literally glitching my block attempt, I'll upload it later when I get home to show you guys what I'm talking about.

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          • speed33556
            Banned
            • Oct 2014
            • 1

            #6
            Re: You Knew It Was Coming... Points In The Paint.

            My post defense couldn't stop a determined 3 year old from getting to the hoop.

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            • gremdog8
              Rookie
              • Jun 2011
              • 272

              #7
              Re: You Knew It Was Coming... Points In The Paint.

              Even with slider modifications , CPU still is attacking the basket majority of the time, cannot get it to balance out to get them to shoot more mid range and 3's... sliders seem broken.

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              • RumbleCard
                MVP
                • Aug 2007
                • 1230

                #8
                Re: You Knew It Was Coming... Points In The Paint.

                I do agree that its slightly better than last year but even with the "attack the basket" and "post up" sliders dropped way down there's still way too much scoring in the paint.

                This used to be solved by adjusting the coach profiles to "run plays" but I believe that's been taken out of the game.
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                • DonWuan
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 1756

                  #9
                  Re: You Knew It Was Coming... Points In The Paint.

                  Yeah only if my teammates would run to the side of the basket and grab rebounds.

                  Just watch the cpu when a shot goes up. They don't box out. Just slide into position under/side of basket. Easy buckets.

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                  • The 24th Letter
                    ERA
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 39373

                    #10
                    Re: You Knew It Was Coming... Points In The Paint.

                    Just played Hornets vs. OKC

                    Here's the first quarter. Think I did a pretty good job protecting the paint. All Star\Sim

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                    OKC ended up with 64 points, 25 in the paint.

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                    • Vni
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 14833

                      #11
                      Re: You Knew It Was Coming... Points In The Paint.

                      Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                      Just played Hornets vs. OKC

                      Here's the first quarter. Think I did a pretty good job protecting the paint. All Star\Sim

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                      OKC ended up with 64 points, 25 in the paint.
                      Really sound like you're bragging about only allowing 64 points and 25 points in the first quarter to OKC LOL.

                      #simnation

                      edit : link doesn't work here

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                      • The 24th Letter
                        ERA
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 39373

                        #12
                        You Knew It Was Coming... Points In The Paint.

                        Originally posted by Vni
                        Really sound like you're bragging about only allowing 64 points and 25 points in the first quarter to OKC LOL.

                        #simnation

                        edit : link doesn't work here

                        Bragging? Psh....not at all...just don't like making a point over and over when I have a video to show, lol...

                        No reason to have a PS4 and XBO and not show a vid. I set it to public, should be viewable now...

                        Reread my post btw

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                        • Vni
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 14833

                          #13
                          Re: You Knew It Was Coming... Points In The Paint.

                          Was just kidding man. I just laughed out loud when I read the post.

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                          • darkknightrises
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 1468

                            #14
                            Re: You Knew It Was Coming... Points In The Paint.

                            Originally posted by Gosens6
                            It's a bit of both, venting because it's frustrating, definitely looking to see what other guys are doing to prevent this from happening.

                            I know I'm not bad at the game, I still win a decent amount of time. I have a fairly respectable knowledge about the game of basketball and how to defend, it just feels literally impossible to defend in the paint sometimes. Particularly when the AI gets an offensive board, or anywhere close to where they can just throw up a shot.

                            I have a video of the game literally glitching my block attempt, I'll upload it later when I get home to show you guys what I'm talking about.


                            Yeah I agree with you. I know more about basketball then most people and last year on just pro default I would give up like 90 pip a game no joke. Even after I changed sliders a lot of games the CPU would get like 70 PIP a game but really I think d was broken last year has no matter what I did with sliders or with trying different thing on d like full court press, man to man, 2-3-2 zone ect. I couldn't stop the CPU form getting into the paint and ever game was like 120-110. Now this year it is not has bad but and I havnt played has much has some people been besy with work and stuff but in the 4 games on pro simulation I have given up 66, 62, 58, 70 PIP in those 4 games that is a average of about 64 PIP a game.

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                            • Pizarro24
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 272

                              #15
                              Re: You Knew It Was Coming... Points In The Paint.

                              I don´t think sliders are broken, but that´s just my two cents.
                              I don´t have problems with PiP, stats are very realistic most of time and gameplay feels realistic most of the time too.

                              Gameplay-wise, this is the best and most realistic 2K-Basketball ever and it´s not even close.
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