NBA Live 15 and Synergy Sports Promise To Deliver a Real-Time NBA Experience

[MielVB]

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Synergy is terrible for guys who like to play a season or franchise...


It basically means the AI is brain dead out of the box until syndergy kicks in. That can take a couple of months...and does NOT go into any existing season / franchise. You are stuck with the "out of the box AI".


This is purely something that suits guys who play exhibition games v the CPU.

This. Make it useful and logical across all game modes.

[tgiordano]

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This is nothing new they have had this updated seasons with synergy for years. They are just rehashing this mode and calling it new. If u play dynasty mode this stuff does not really matter.

[rtkiii]

I think companies should stop talking and start doing. Too many promises and missed marks.

[DBMcGee3]

This sounds fantastic, but it seems like both games have been promising frequent updates like this for years, and never seem to deliver as well as they claim. That being said, if they can get this right it's a huge plus for the game. 2k's server reliability has already proven to be in shambles yet again this year, and honestly they have never been remotely good about roster updates. We'll see about these "big moments" being available to play so quickly after a game ends. I find that very, very hard to believe.

Still though, while I'm enjoying 2k from a gameplay perspective, it's good to see EA striving for a better experience in the online areas. Sure would be nice to play a demo though, or even see a few minutes of gameplay, considering the game drops in 2 weeks. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't pretty skeptical regarding the lack of these things so far.

[Mintsa]

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Wasn't Live 14 suppose to update an hour after every game ?? I'm guessing that did not happen. How ofter did they actually update the rosters in Live 14 ?

[Guapo516]

This has been promised since live 10. I think the server stability is what will sell the game along with curiosity. I just kinda wish ea would show and not tell because they seem to be more tell and not show.

[Jano]

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Synergy is terrible for guys who like to play a season or franchise...


It basically means the AI is brain dead out of the box until syndergy kicks in. That can take a couple of months...and does NOT go into any existing season / franchise. You are stuck with the "out of the box AI".


This is purely something that suits guys who play exhibition games v the CPU.

Well that's one of the problems. The game should have great tendencies out the box due to Synergy.

It's not as if there is no Synergy data in the game when we first get it because there is. The issue has been the game hasn't implemented Synergy well in these last few years.

I remember the PG issue back in Live 10. And the "mindless dump it in the post" thing last year.

So I wouldn't say it WILL be useless because it should help create accurate plays types from the beginning. The question is will EA finally implement it well this year.

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[KG]

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Well that's one of the problems. The game should have great tendencies out the box due to Synergy.

It's not as if there is no Synergy data in the game when we first get it because there is. The issue has been the game hasn't implemented Synergy well in these last few years.

I remember the PG issue back in Live 10. And the "mindless dump it in the post" thing last year.

So I wouldn't say it WILL be useless because it should help create accurate plays types from the beginning. The question is will EA finally implement it well this year.

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Correct if I'm wrong but, what Synergy data would be loaded into the game when it ships? The season starts on the 28th, the same day as Live is released so there is no real data to use unless they use last year's which wouldn't be accurate since players/coaches have changed since then. Sorry for the questions, I'm just trying to understand this.

[23]

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Remember this thread
http://www.operationsports.com/forum...tweaks-27.html

Synergy never worked properly since implemented back in live 2009.

We went on a huge editing binge for Live 10 and even after adjusting some of the ratings helped, it still didn't stop bigs like Bynum and Shaq from taking elbow fadeaway jumpers.


It's just something that should've never been in the game in the first place.
All the data in the world isn't going to help if the game isn't programmed properly. Now that we've seen that real NBA offenses can be implemented in a game what does that say to this?

[Jano]

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Correct if I'm wrong but, what Synergy data would be loaded into the game when it ships? The season starts on the 28th, the same day as Live is released so there is no real data to use unless they use last year's which wouldn't be accurate since players/coaches have changed since then. Sorry for the questions, I'm just trying to understand this.

Yep it'll be using last years data for sure.. so teams like Cleveland or Miami might not be as accurate tendency wise as a San Antonio or Clippers would be.

But i would think both 2K and Live would suffer from that wouldn't it? Because the tendencies used for the initial rosters for both games are more speculation or prediction based off what could happen.

I would assume that both games will be better reflections of the NBA after the season is 20 games in. That way tendencies and lineups would be more accurate.

[The 24th Letter]

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I think both games are better off just hiring someone dedicated to perfecting tendencies rather than this "Synergy" or "STATS" implementation....

Didn't a Live dev last year say they have to manually change tendencies anyway? Makes hiring these stat tracking companies seem like a waste of $...

[snocone]

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While I'm quite weary to believe the impact or dialyness of the synergy changes, I will say that if there is one thing EA generally does well, its server stability. That said, the online impression thread from Live 14 makes it sound pretty unplayable, so we'll see

[WTF]

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I think that they have to manually change attributes/ratings, and tendencies are driven by Synergy.

[KG]

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Yep it'll be using last years data for sure.. so teams like Cleveland or Miami might not be as accurate tendency wise as a San Antonio or Clippers would be.

But i would think both 2K and Live would suffer from that wouldn't it? Because the tendencies used for the initial rosters for both games are more speculation or prediction based off what could happen.

I would assume that both games will be better reflections of the NBA after the season is 20 games in. That way tendencies and lineups would be more accurate.

Ahh...yeah, that makes sense.

[Playmakers]

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I think that they have to manually change attributes/ratings, and tendencies are driven by Synergy.

There needs to be a sticky thread for ratings changes or suggestions throughout the year...

Heck normally i would just do my own edits but we don't have the option this year so I think there should be a sticky thread in case we start seeing players doing stuff they shouldn't be doing or possibly use the ratings to make them do what they are suppose to be doing....

Ratings is still IMO the bread and butter behind the actual gameplay Live