If your definition of gameplay is "the tactical aspects of a computer game, such as its plot and the way it is played, as distinct from the graphics and sound effects"(right from the net), I have already acknowledged that offline is as you described, and is as most have already expressed here, well played, beautiful, and beautiful in to watch motion, but it’s not a flawless product as some have chosen to state in their opinion here, and is why I piggybacked RIP’s opinion. When I want to do “A” by button/joystick manipulation, it should do “A”, and if I want my OFFLINE GAMEPLAY experience to mimic my ONLINE GAMEPLAY experience, it should, and since it does not, I call FICTION.
If they only wanted offline only gameplay impressions, the thread should be appropriately titled for offline impressions only, not ambiguously titled with a superlative (BEST in Class?) to feature focus only its strong traits, just to sell the hype, and knowing it will bring out the eventual flame posts to follow. This poll could have simply included a vote with the other games comparisons included if the intention was to minimize negative opinions of 2K15. IMO, looking through the sleaze, that BEST word in the title is to help ensure that our opinions are already biased before we have even seen the LIVE 15 gameplay via EA Access (also sleazy) demo to compare it to, and to that point this topic is premature and I refuse to be a lemming, because I truly want the best and complete sports games to be offered to us, so sorry, still FICTION. OS is natively 2K biased because they have been the only real basketball game around for a number of years worth touting, and rightfully so.
To the "Best in class" comparison, IMO, Madden 15, Forza 5, FIFA 15, The Show, Golf Club to name a few deserve mention and eclipse 2K15 in specific gameplay aspects such as controls(FIFA 15, Forza 5) , dynasty/franchise mode (Madden 15), ball physics (FIFA 15, The Show), player control (FIFA 15), graphics (FIFA 15, Forza 5), customization options (Madden 15, Forza 5, Golf Club), presentation (FIFA 15, The Show) etc. (a lot of FIFA eh?) they all have their issues but IMO they do those things I mentioned better than 2K15 at the moment, and are sports games.
Prior to your quote post of me, I never referenced LIVE anything in this discussion, because IMO there is no direct comparison to be noted that is even worthy at this point, other than servers and possibly halftime shows, because we haven't seen LIVE 15 in action, to the dismay of many, and besides, the bar is not set nearly as high by the LIVE fans, so the fall is from hype short, unlike 2K.
To mention my opinion of a playable live 14, to an unplayable 2k14 (for the time I played it, before I traded it in for LIVE 14 due to its well documented and lingering online issues) is a troll-ish move. That forum and those opinions are sure to heat up soon on their own, since both of us acknowledged that LIVE 15 will have to step it up significantly, period. That’s the reason in all seriousness why I asked in that forum if we are allowed to openly compare them, because I planned to, as many other will as well, to help make each better. The truth and the facts are one and the same. The other games get raked over the coals in their respective forums for not meeting expectations and this is no different, no matter where the bar is set. To compare the two in series history, for me, Live controls and gameplay has always felt,”light, twitchy and precise” while 2K has always felt “heavy, deliberate ,and powerful”. Some might redefine is as Arcade vs. Sim, but a marriage of the two concepts is probably the right answer, which both companies are attempting to do.
If they only wanted offline only gameplay impressions, the thread should be appropriately titled for offline impressions only, not ambiguously titled with a superlative (BEST in Class?) to feature focus only its strong traits, just to sell the hype, and knowing it will bring out the eventual flame posts to follow. This poll could have simply included a vote with the other games comparisons included if the intention was to minimize negative opinions of 2K15. IMO, looking through the sleaze, that BEST word in the title is to help ensure that our opinions are already biased before we have even seen the LIVE 15 gameplay via EA Access (also sleazy) demo to compare it to, and to that point this topic is premature and I refuse to be a lemming, because I truly want the best and complete sports games to be offered to us, so sorry, still FICTION. OS is natively 2K biased because they have been the only real basketball game around for a number of years worth touting, and rightfully so.
To the "Best in class" comparison, IMO, Madden 15, Forza 5, FIFA 15, The Show, Golf Club to name a few deserve mention and eclipse 2K15 in specific gameplay aspects such as controls(FIFA 15, Forza 5) , dynasty/franchise mode (Madden 15), ball physics (FIFA 15, The Show), player control (FIFA 15), graphics (FIFA 15, Forza 5), customization options (Madden 15, Forza 5, Golf Club), presentation (FIFA 15, The Show) etc. (a lot of FIFA eh?) they all have their issues but IMO they do those things I mentioned better than 2K15 at the moment, and are sports games.
Prior to your quote post of me, I never referenced LIVE anything in this discussion, because IMO there is no direct comparison to be noted that is even worthy at this point, other than servers and possibly halftime shows, because we haven't seen LIVE 15 in action, to the dismay of many, and besides, the bar is not set nearly as high by the LIVE fans, so the fall is from hype short, unlike 2K.
To mention my opinion of a playable live 14, to an unplayable 2k14 (for the time I played it, before I traded it in for LIVE 14 due to its well documented and lingering online issues) is a troll-ish move. That forum and those opinions are sure to heat up soon on their own, since both of us acknowledged that LIVE 15 will have to step it up significantly, period. That’s the reason in all seriousness why I asked in that forum if we are allowed to openly compare them, because I planned to, as many other will as well, to help make each better. The truth and the facts are one and the same. The other games get raked over the coals in their respective forums for not meeting expectations and this is no different, no matter where the bar is set. To compare the two in series history, for me, Live controls and gameplay has always felt,”light, twitchy and precise” while 2K has always felt “heavy, deliberate ,and powerful”. Some might redefine is as Arcade vs. Sim, but a marriage of the two concepts is probably the right answer, which both companies are attempting to do.
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