The NBA 2K15 Online Experience Has Been An Avoidable Mess

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  • mike24forever
    Old Guy
    • Sep 2003
    • 3168

    #31
    Re: The NBA 2K15 Online Experience Has Been An Avoidable Mess

    Originally posted by yungmeaks
    The game is fine. Either you need to spend more time learning it, or you're really just a terrible casual player. By the looks of your crying, it's probably the latter. Step your game up and stop being a little baby.
    I love that "casual gamer" is considered an insult. Why does this posters impressions of the game upset you? Does he/she not have the right to post their own opinion? You "hardcore" gamers are very intimidating, I better go practice.
    Last edited by mike24forever; 10-20-2014, 11:02 AM.
    I am the lesson after the fall.

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    • WaddupCouzin
      MVP
      • Jul 2002
      • 2366

      #32
      Re: The NBA 2K15 Online Experience Has Been An Avoidable Mess

      I'm not understanding the point on his thread, Online doesn't work, 2K submitted a patch, patch is being approved, and an article was written saying online doesn't work? Am I missing something? Would it work without the patch?
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      • RipCityAndy
        Rookie
        • Nov 2012
        • 249

        #33
        Originally posted by yungmeaks
        The game is fine. Either you need to spend more time learning it, or you're really just a terrible casual player. By the looks of your crying, it's probably the latter. Step your game up and stop being a little baby.
        Hey, they guy is just voicing his frustration. The personal attack isn't necessary. The game isn't terrible, but the gameplay does leave a LOT to be desired (in my opinion). I think it's far from deserving the praise it has received. I actually agree with most of his listed issues.

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        • ManiacMatt1782
          Who? Giroux!
          • Jul 2006
          • 3982

          #34
          Re: The NBA 2K15 Online Experience Has Been An Avoidable Mess

          Originally posted by hawksandrew
          So here is my list of game play issues i have come across:

          - CPU always steals passes that are going to an open user teammame, even when that teammate is wide open.

          - Jumping to block a shot for users is a slow response and at times lags or doesnt jump at all.

          - During a fast break with a user defender back on defense, when CPU is driving to the basket,
          user controlled players will always move out of the way instead of contesting the lay up/shot, giving
          CPU a clear lane to basket.

          - Almost impossible for a user to steal a pass. You can be be playing tight defense and go for a steal
          and just swing and miss even with ball directly next to you.

          - When user jumps for a rebound at the first attempt and the ball is still up for grabs,
          user can never re-jump again straight away. controlled player will always just stand in the paint and
          do nothing.

          - 99% of user lay ups are missed. Even after grabbing the rebound from a missed first attempt, the lay up,
          regardless of contested or uncontested, will miss again.

          - During a fast break, CPU will block 99% of the dunks, Will always have 2 on 1 and is always faster then
          user.

          - Too many illegal screens called from both CPU and user plays. Players get knocked to the ground and
          no calls but non contact fouls are called.

          - When user is bumped while dribbling, the ball handler will always pick up the ball and stop dribbling,
          most real NBA players will actually keep the dribble alive.

          - 2 time outs in a row called without fail in every game even if its a 20 point blow out.

          - When ball is inbounded after CPU score, User point guard will sprint up the court (even if sprint button not touched), unlike NBA2K14 where it
          was more controlled.

          - When CPU is inbounding the ball just over half court, user is at times unable to move closer to player
          inbounding as if he was being blocked by an invisable wall.

          - Crowd cheers loud but remain seated and unresponsive.

          - Too many player celebrations after every shot is made, even when the first basket is made. This should
          happen only during closer games, showing the player getting hyped to hit the lead or continue momentum run.

          - Players getting knocked over, never seen a charge called.

          - Commentators make stupid calls and wrong calls. Player takes a wide open shot, commentator says that "a rugged screen was set" .... ummm no.
          On a fast break (mostly for the CPU) the player hits a shot and the commentator says "how in the world did
          they leave him that wide open" ..... ummm it was a fast break, thats why.

          And steve Kerr, coaching and commentating??? fail.

          While the game is an improvement in parts from NBA2K14, the game play makes it frustrating to play. This is just a short list that i have come across, i am sure there is A LOT more others have found wrong.
          Hyperbole makes real issues not seem that important because of how greatly exaggerated it is. No or minimal contact layup misses are a real issue especially from good post players. you do not miss 99% of them. Other things in your post happen too frequently as well, but no where near the frequency you claim. when you use these hyperboles to describe your problem, your problem doesn't get taken seriously.

          The Kerr thing doesn't even matter because him and Kenny Smith have been playing and commentating for years with the classic teams.

          Illegal screens get called from leaving too soon with the pg. Although the defense can kind of cheese it and draw calls by running into the screener before he sets. But it doesnt seem like an can be consistently abused.

          This game has it's share of issues but a lot of this stuff is just ludicrous.
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          • MarkcusD
            Rookie
            • Jul 2014
            • 10

            #35
            I rented this and it was completely unplayable. I couldn't edit rosters without getting sent to the main menu where they show that stupid movie over and over again. This game is a piece of crap.

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            • MarkcusD
              Rookie
              • Jul 2014
              • 10

              #36
              Video of me trying to edit char/roster http://youtu.be/7i-FB6Wi9hA

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              • RipCityAndy
                Rookie
                • Nov 2012
                • 249

                #37
                Originally posted by ManiacMatt1782
                Hyperbole makes real issues not seem that important because of how greatly exaggerated it is. No or minimal contact layup misses are a real issue especially from good post players. you do not miss 99% of them. Other things in your post happen too frequently as well, but no where near the frequency you claim. when you use these hyperboles to describe your problem, your problem doesn't get taken seriously.

                The Kerr thing doesn't even matter because him and Kenny Smith have been playing and commentating for years with the classic teams.

                Illegal screens get called from leaving too soon with the pg. Although the defense can kind of cheese it and draw calls by running into the screener before he sets. But it doesnt seem like an can be consistently abused.

                This game has it's share of issues but a lot of this stuff is just ludicrous.
                Which of these is ludicrous? I've personally run into most of these issues. Some of these (claims of 99% occurrence or something always happening) might be exaggerated, but they are all valid. If you haven't seen it, you likely haven't played the game long enough.

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                • nuckles2k2
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 1922

                  #38
                  Re: The NBA 2K15 Online Experience Has Been An Avoidable Mess

                  Originally posted by WaddupCouzin
                  I'm not understanding the point on his thread, Online doesn't work, 2K submitted a patch, patch is being approved, and an article was written saying online doesn't work? Am I missing something? Would it work without the patch?
                  Not trying to start an argument, but 2K also said they have their "top engineers" working on this issue the entire dev cycle (which is easily 6+ months) and the situation is no different.

                  I think that's the cause of a lot of the fervor and venom. The promise that they put skilled experts on the case months ago...and it's pretty much the same.

                  Now, if you want to ask ppl like myself "why the hell did you take their word for it when you know that their servers have been subpar since 2001?!?!"....then you got me.

                  That freelance offense vid got me.

                  I had originally planned to not buy the game after I got a refund from Sony last year for my files being deleted, VC lost, and connectivity issues offering me a portion of the entire package, thru no fault of my own, for weeks at a time.

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                  • WaddupCouzin
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 2366

                    #39
                    Re: The NBA 2K15 Online Experience Has Been An Avoidable Mess

                    Originally posted by nuckles2k2
                    Not trying to start an argument, but 2K also said they have their "top engineers" working on this issue the entire dev cycle (which is easily 6+ months) and the situation is no different.

                    I think that's the cause of a lot of the fervor and venom. The promise that they put skilled experts on the case months ago...and it's pretty much the same.

                    Now, if you want to ask ppl like myself "why the hell did you take their word for it when you know that their servers have been subpar since 2001?!?!"....then you got me.

                    That freelance offense vid got me.

                    I had originally planned to not buy the game after I got a refund from Sony last year for my files being deleted, VC lost, and connectivity issues offering me a portion of the entire package, thru no fault of my own, for weeks at a time.
                    Nuckles:

                    There's already a thread addressing lack of connectivity issues. Chronologically speaking, there hasn't been a patch addressing the issues (yet) so I would think this thread would come post patch saying something like, "we've had a patch and it's still not working!"

                    The lack of connectivity is a bummer. I think Spank or Boiler pointed out sports games need Betas to address these online issues before the game is released.

                    Nuckles, you're not starting an argument, we're just conversing
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                    • nuckles2k2
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 1922

                      #40
                      Re: The NBA 2K15 Online Experience Has Been An Avoidable Mess

                      Originally posted by WaddupCouzin
                      Nuckles:

                      There's already a thread addressing lack of connectivity issues. Chronologically speaking, there hasn't been a patch addressing the issues (yet) so I would think this thread would come post patch saying something like, "we've had a patch and it's still not working!"

                      The lack of connectivity is a bummer. I think Spank or Boiler pointed out sports games need Betas to address these online issues before the game is released.

                      Nuckles, you're not starting an argument, we're just conversing
                      Nah no argument, just pointing out that these aren't exactly new issues, so maybe that's why cooler heads aren't waiting until after a patch to say "hey a patch didn't fix it, what gives?"

                      We're kind of mired in a situation where people are wondering why we even need a patch for a legacy issue after 2K said this: Top Engineers Spent the Entire NBA 2K15 Dev Cycle Working on Network Infrastructure

                      Then we get this 10 days ago: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...s-working.html

                      ...and now we're waiting on a patch.

                      Chronologically speaking, this miracle patch was needed years ago. Lol.

                      Just offering a different viewpoint on why things might be heading down the path they are. No muss no fuss.

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                      • WaddupCouzin
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 2366

                        #41
                        Re: The NBA 2K15 Online Experience Has Been An Avoidable Mess

                        Indeed Nuckles, it was needed years ago! Lol!
                        "I've Altered The Deal..."

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                        • nuckles2k2
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 1922

                          #42
                          Re: The NBA 2K15 Online Experience Has Been An Avoidable Mess

                          Originally posted by WaddupCouzin
                          Indeed Nuckles, it was needed years ago! Lol!
                          I remember 2K back on the Sega Dreamcast in '01. Their servers were understandably bad back then...and subpar in comparison to the industry standard every single year since.

                          So if this patch is gonna finally fix what's plagued them for over a decade...it's welcomed.

                          Dunno why they can't get these servers right, but they need to stop promising things with them, and just fix it. It's getting annoying, lol.
                          Last edited by nuckles2k2; 10-20-2014, 05:27 PM.

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                          • ManiacMatt1782
                            Who? Giroux!
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 3982

                            #43
                            Re: The NBA 2K15 Online Experience Has Been An Avoidable Mess

                            Originally posted by RipCityAndy
                            Which of these is ludicrous? I've personally run into most of these issues. Some of these (claims of 99% occurrence or something always happening) might be exaggerated, but they are all valid. If you haven't seen it, you likely haven't played the game long enough.
                            The extreme hyperbole of it is what is ludicrous. The things he see's 99% of the time, I see more like 10% of the time, which yes, is still too frequent, but his hyperbole makes valid points look laughable because of how greatly exaggerated they are. Changing "99% of the time" to, "far too frequently" gives much more credibility to those issues. If I am a developer, and I am skimming over his post, and see that, I like many others would write it off as he doesn't know what he's doing if he is screwing up 99% of the time. Exaggerating the issue takes away credibility of the complaint.
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                            • TheRealMrRager_
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 32

                              #44
                              Originally posted by yungmeaks
                              The game is fine. Either you need to spend more time learning it, or you're really just a terrible casual player. By the looks of your crying, it's probably the latter. Step your game up and stop being a little baby.
                              You're the only numb skull who is saying it's fine. I'm no casual player so don't compare me to one, I've played high school and college ball. Been playing 2K since NBA 2K. I'm neither crying nor bitching. I play competitively so I am not a causal player. Take your game off pro and you'll find out.

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                              • Dr. Banner
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 150

                                #45
                                2k maybe will fix the servers for next year, here's why! Cause were FINALLY holding them accountable for the trash servers, it's very sad we've let a great game blind us from seeing and mentioning more how crappy these servers been for 7 years.

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