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  • fistofrage
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2002
    • 13682

    #1

    Lack/Absence of holding penalties really is a huge issue

    It really causes issues for those who want a sim game. Penalties are a huge drive killer in real life. Getting set back to 1st and 20 totally changes everything. Unless there is a sack, which there should only be a couple a game, there really are no 2nd or 3rd and long plays. This makes its easier for the AI and Human to just dink and dunk 4 to 6 yards a pop and keep the chains moving. If the AI and Human had to attempt longer throws to convert, the pass % would be more in line with where they should be. Zone coverages would be more useful, etc.

    Please give us holding penalties and for those who don't want penalties just give them an option to turn them off.
    Chalepa Ta Kala.....
  • KingFry
    Pro
    • May 2013
    • 704

    #2
    Re: Lack/Absence of holding penalties really is a huge issue

    If you want more just move the holding slider up... that should help.
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    • carlito1171
      Rookie
      • Oct 2014
      • 73

      #3
      Re: Lack/Absence of holding penalties really is a huge issue

      Add Pass interference to the list as well, esp as we see this become more and more part of real games. QBs throw the ball down the field just for the flag now. Make the awareness attribute lead to more or less PI, or you could make it a trait(because there are some good CBs that are still susceptible to PI in real life)

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      • Kodii Rockets
        I smell sulfur...
        • Sep 2007
        • 2670

        #4
        Re: Lack/Absence of holding penalties really is a huge issue

        Originally posted by KingFry
        If you want more just move the holding slider up... that should help.
        Huh? Have you played this game? Have you attempted to 'move the holding slider up'?
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        • fistofrage
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2002
          • 13682

          #5
          Re: Lack/Absence of holding penalties really is a huge issue

          Originally posted by KingFry
          If you want more just move the holding slider up... that should help.
          Sliders are broken and don't work. Do you even have this game?
          Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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          • NimitsTexan
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 806

            #6
            Re: Lack/Absence of holding penalties really is a huge issue

            With the setting 95-99, I have been averaging about 1.5 holding penalites per game. Not where it should be, but not disasterous.'

            Also, turning FS up (60-75) can simulate near the correct amount of pre-snap offensive penalties.

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            • DoubleZ_3
              Pro
              • Sep 2013
              • 555

              #7
              Re: Lack/Absence of holding penalties really is a huge issue

              My slider for holding is at 98. I Get At Least 5 A Game.

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              • aholbert32
                (aka Alberto)
                • Jul 2002
                • 33106

                #8
                Re: Lack/Absence of holding penalties really is a huge issue

                Originally posted by DoubleZ_3
                My slider for holding is at 98. I Get At Least 5 A Game.
                No ****ing way. 5? I have mine at 95 and see 1 every 3-4 games.

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                • fistofrage
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 13682

                  #9
                  Re: Lack/Absence of holding penalties really is a huge issue

                  Originally posted by aholbert32
                  No ****ing way. 5? I have mine at 95 and see 1 every 3-4 games.
                  I really hate it when people lie about stuff like this. Then the developers come in and read this and claim that they won't do anything about it because not everyone is experiencing the problem.

                  What agenda do these people have?

                  If I had a tin foil hat, I'd claim they were in here as representatives of EA, nothing else would make sense behind the motivation to lie about things like this.
                  Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                  • aholbert32
                    (aka Alberto)
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 33106

                    #10
                    Re: Lack/Absence of holding penalties really is a huge issue

                    Originally posted by fistofrage
                    I really hate it when people lie about stuff like this. Then the developers come in and read this and claim that they won't do anything about it because not everyone is experiencing the problem.

                    What agenda do these people have?

                    If I had a tin foil hat, I'd claim they were in here as representatives of EA, nothing else would make sense behind the motivation to lie about things like this.
                    EA knows its an issue..they just dont care about fixing it this year. I asked Clint about this issue earlier this year and he didnt seem concerned about fixing it for 15. Whats funny is I think its all ratings related.

                    For example, I rarely see holding penalties with starters but anytime there are injuries and a back up is playing, I see holding calls. I played with a backup RT with the Colts last week and he was called for holding 3 times.

                    Also, has anyone seen a holding call on a pass play? I only see them on runs in 15.

                    We will probably see PI penalties next year because they are working on WR/DB interactions for 16 but I'm not sure holding will return.

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                    • fistofrage
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 13682

                      #11
                      Re: Lack/Absence of holding penalties really is a huge issue

                      Originally posted by aholbert32
                      EA knows its an issue..they just dont care about fixing it this year. I asked Clint about this issue earlier this year and he didnt seem concerned about fixing it for 15. Whats funny is I think its all ratings related.

                      For example, I rarely see holding penalties with starters but anytime there are injuries and a back up is playing, I see holding calls. I played with a backup RT with the Colts last week and he was called for holding 3 times.

                      Also, has anyone seen a holding call on a pass play? I only see them on runs in 15.

                      We will probably see PI penalties next year because they are working on WR/DB interactions for 16 but I'm not sure holding will return.
                      Well I'll send you a PM next year before buying and have you give me the straight dope on penalties and a few other things before I purchase.

                      Too hard to filter through this stuff and find out honest answers.
                      Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                      • DoubleZ_3
                        Pro
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 555

                        #12
                        Re: Lack/Absence of holding penalties really is a huge issue

                        Originally posted by fistofrage
                        I really hate it when people lie about stuff like this. Then the developers come in and read this and claim that they won't do anything about it because not everyone is experiencing the problem.

                        What agenda do these people have?

                        If I had a tin foil hat, I'd claim they were in here as representatives of EA, nothing else would make sense behind the motivation to lie about things like this.
                        Lol. I'm not. I get 5 a game. And you believe in me or not doesn't matter one bit to me

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                        • aholbert32
                          (aka Alberto)
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 33106

                          #13
                          Re: Lack/Absence of holding penalties really is a huge issue

                          Originally posted by DoubleZ_3
                          Lol. I'm not. I get 5 a game. And you believe in me or not doesn't matter one bit to me
                          LOL. Where did you get your magic copy of Madden? No one else here seems to have one that gives you 5 holding calls a game.

                          All jokes aside, the beauty of next gen is you can make videos as proof. I'd love to see you show me even 3 holding calls in the same game.

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                          • itsOTTOmatic
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 128

                            #14
                            Re: Lack/Absence of holding penalties really is a huge issue

                            I just started a CFM last night using Josh's settings/sliders and saw a good number of holding calls over the course of a couple games. So I'd recommend those settings if you aren't already using them

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                            • aholbert32
                              (aka Alberto)
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 33106

                              #15
                              Re: Lack/Absence of holding penalties really is a huge issue

                              Originally posted by itsOTTOmatic
                              I just started a CFM last night using Josh's settings/sliders and saw a good number of holding calls over the course of a couple games. So I'd recommend those settings if you aren't already using them
                              How many are you seeing on average? Are you seeing them during pass plays?

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