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  • nry20
    Rookie
    • Nov 2010
    • 149

    #1

    MyPark/Stage is over-run with small forwards.

    Isn't it weird that 2 years in a row you can make absolutely godlike small forwards that would've averaged 75/20/20 in the real NBA if they had played?


    Looking at the stats that small forwards can have, even if you just straight up bought VC and played 0 games, you can have a 7 footer with top-tier defense, athleticism, shooting, and a decent inside game. Wtf? Wasn't fixing positions and position stats on their list of crap this year?


    I just left a stage that had 9 people in it that hadn't even chosen an affiliation yet, and all 9 of them were 88 overall small forwards. Coincidence? Probably not. I saw a court where one group of 3 was running a 14 game winstreak, rookie 1 status, just dominating people.

    Where are these real life 7 foot small forwards that are keeping pace with guards? Hell, where are these 7 foot small forwards at all? Why can you even make one that large?

    I'm so confused how fundamentally flawed online play is every year because of small forward caps. There's no point in playing anything beyond a small forward in career online, you have 3 inches less than a center so you can match up with them, and you're just as quick as a PG so you can easily match up with them as well.

    I'll go back as far as I can in online career in the 2k series on 2k11, me and my entire crew ended up making point forwards, 7 foot small forwards with great shooting, driving, defense, and passing. Last year, 7 footers had great shooting, driving, defense, and passing. This year, they have the same caps as SG and PG only they're 7 feet tall.

    Am I the only one that sees how stupid this is year after year? Blows my mind, no reason to make any other position besides small forward because you won't ever need anything besides what you can get out of the small forward position.
  • JspaceG
    Rookie
    • Oct 2014
    • 15

    #2
    Re: MyPark/Stage is over-run with small forwards.

    Would you say a max height PG at 6'7 with max wingspan can keep up with these guys?

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    • nry20
      Rookie
      • Nov 2010
      • 149

      #3
      Re: MyPark/Stage is over-run with small forwards.

      Originally posted by JspaceG
      Would you say a max height PG at 6'7 with max wingspan can keep up with these guys?
      Sure, but you'll get out-rebounded and they'll do everything else you can just as well as you.

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      • JspaceG
        Rookie
        • Oct 2014
        • 15

        #4
        Re: MyPark/Stage is over-run with small forwards.

        Originally posted by nry20
        Sure, but you'll get out-rebounded and they'll do everything else you can just as well as you.
        If their is no difference in the speed or no advantages over the SF then I might just remake to keep up with the cheese. I thought a 6'7 PG would be the only option to make other than a 7'0 SF which I don't want to do. I'd agree that its pretty crazy... I could have sworn though that pgs speed can go into the mid 90s (94ish) while small fowards are capped at around 85. That can't be the only stat like that.

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        • nry20
          Rookie
          • Nov 2010
          • 149

          #5
          Re: MyPark/Stage is over-run with small forwards.

          Originally posted by JspaceG
          If their is no difference in the speed or no advantages over the SF then I might just remake to keep up with the cheese. I thought a 6'7 PG would be the only option to make other than a 7'0 SF which I don't want to do. I'd agree that its pretty crazy... I could have sworn though that pgs speed can go into the mid 90s (94ish) while small fowards are capped at around 85. That can't be the only stat like that.
          My center has 85 speed and can't keep up at all with small forwards. I just cut the game off so I don't know for sure how much speed they get, but it can't be more than 2 or 3 lower than PGs if it's lower at all.

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          • JspaceG
            Rookie
            • Oct 2014
            • 15

            #6
            Re: MyPark/Stage is over-run with small forwards.

            Originally posted by nry20
            My center has 85 speed and can't keep up at all with small forwards. I just cut the game off so I don't know for sure how much speed they get, but it can't be more than 2 or 3 lower than PGs if it's lower at all.
            Pretty insane, I knew it was bad, but if their isn't any cap difference between PGs and SFs, then... wtf? I hate to be that guy with the 7'0 SF but if thats the only option then... I was really trying to make a Penny Hardaway inspired player this year with a 6'7 194 PG that actually passes too, but I guess not?

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            • NorthPhillyFis
              Rookie
              • Oct 2014
              • 78

              #7
              Re: MyPark/Stage is over-run with small forwards.

              If u nice none of this matters jus torch em im a 6'9 SF(Was tryna be the missin piece for the 76ers) and i wish a 7 footer would try to guard me lol PSN: FisMoney
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              • Lord Bonium
                Pro
                • Oct 2014
                • 682

                #8
                Re: MyPark/Stage is over-run with small forwards.

                Whenever you're guarding a 7' sf just get in front of them and spam the steal button. You'll either poke the ball loose or foul him, either way they're not going to score most of the time.

                I never thought i would tell people to do this cheese but as a normal 6'9 pf i've had it with them. The speed is what annoys me the most, there has never even been a 6-10 player that you could honestly give 90+ speed/quickness let alone a 7 footer.

                There's never even been a 7' sf in the league, ever.

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                • PaR@bLe
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 115

                  #9
                  Re: MyPark/Stage is over-run with small forwards.

                  Originally posted by Lord Bonium
                  Whenever you're guarding a 7' sf just get in front of them and spam the steal button. You'll either poke the ball loose or foul him, either way they're not going to score most of the time.

                  I never thought i would tell people to do this cheese but as a normal 6'9 pf i've had it with them. The speed is what annoys me the most, there has never even been a 6-10 player that you could honestly give 90+ speed/quickness let alone a 7 footer.

                  There's never even been a 7' sf in the league, ever.
                  Isn't KD in that range and Giannis
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                  • SuperQharisma
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 12

                    #10
                    Re: MyPark/Stage is over-run with small forwards.

                    Originally posted by PaR@bLe
                    Isn't KD in that range and Giannis
                    Correct ... and you can add Dirk to the list too .... 7 ft. SF's do exist .... 2k should really just do a better of job of limiting abilities ... no player regardless of position is amazing at everything .....

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                    • JspaceG
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 15

                      #11
                      Re: MyPark/Stage is over-run with small forwards.

                      So... do you guys think a 7 ft small forward is the best way to go? Because I really want to make a 6'7 PG butttt....

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                      • DurtySoufReppin
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 564

                        #12
                        Re: MyPark/Stage is over-run with small forwards.

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                        • Crookid
                          Pro
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 885

                          #13
                          Re: MyPark/Stage is over-run with small forwards.

                          Sure there are a few SFs that are close to 7 feet but it's extremely rare. As a result, it is not a position norm. The caps for height should be set and capped based on the position average. Otherwise, people are going to take advantage and something that is supposed to be rare, becomes common.

                          Also, attributes need to be adjusted BASED on your height AND body type. Why this isn't in the game is a huge oversight and the designer for these aspects should be consulted as its ridiculous. The fans come up with better solutions. That's a problem. Stat caps should be based on your POSITION, HEIGHT and BODY TYPE (body type should be added).

                          Increasing height raises rebound caps but lowers your speed.
                          Heavy (larger weight) lowers your quickness cap but raises you strength cap.
                          Decreasing height lowers rebound cap but raises speed cap.
                          Thin raises quickness cap but lowers strength.

                          That is how real life works. This is why some players lose weight. So they can be quicker up and down the floor but it sacrifices strength. Why isn't it this way? Lol
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                          • tomzennsbruh
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 189

                            #14
                            Re: MyPark/Stage is over-run with small forwards.

                            How do you not expect this?

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                            • Lord Bonium
                              Pro
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 682

                              #15
                              Re: MyPark/Stage is over-run with small forwards.

                              Originally posted by PaR@bLe
                              Isn't KD in that range and Giannis
                              They're 6-10.
                              Originally posted by SuperQharisma
                              Correct ... and you can add Dirk to the list too .... 7 ft. SF's do exist .... 2k should really just do a better of job of limiting abilities ... no player regardless of position is amazing at everything .....
                              Dirk barely ever played small forward.

                              But you got one thing right, the main problem is not the height it's the abilities. Capping sf's at 6'10 won't solve the problem. If weight, strength, height and build had an impact on speed/quickness that would make things a lot better. Everything relative to position of course and based on real nba players, past and present. You'd still have a bunch of lebron clones running around but at least it'll be the 6'8 version instead of the 7' version.

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