FIFA 15 OS Community Sliders

[orion523]

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I don't have the game time with fullbacks @ 100 to pass judgment either way. I generally feel the fullbacks play too deeply at default, which doesn't really represent how the position is played now. The switching/bunching problems could only be an issue with certain settings, for example:

Attacking or higher mentality (FBs making more forward runs)
Short pass length in CTT (attackers coming short)
Winger/Mid set to come back on defence (coming/staying back to cover)
Fullback set to always overlap (forward runs)

It's all conjecture, but perhaps if only 1 or 2 of those criteria are present 100 fullback positioning is great. I can't tell you one way or the other because I haven't played with the latest set yet, in fact, outside of an online game or two with a friend, I'm going on two weeks with no FIFA.

This is what's most difficult about creating sliders, different variables such as play style, stick skills, formations, match-ups, tactics, and now individual tactics can really create a wide range of results with the same set. I cannot stress this enough, very few guys will be able to input any set as-is and just run with it. You need to be able to adjust to your own tendencies.

[mickyslim]

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This is what's most difficult about creating sliders, different variables such as play style, stick skills, formations, match-ups, tactics, and now individual tactics can really create a wide range of results with the same set. I cannot stress this enough, very few guys will be able to input any set as-is and just run with it. You need to be able to adjust to your own tendencies.

^ This. Not to mention the result people are after in game play can differ.

[mickyslim]

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Not trying to be rude here but when you got issues and you play with a different slider set you shouldn't be complaining in this thread. I strongly advise you to use the set in the OP without changing anything. Besides, it's annoying to see people complain about things because they're too stubborn to go with the full set and want to alternate things which can mess up a whole set.

He was asking advice.. A lot of people edit the sliders slightly to achieve something different, he isn't telling anyone to try his sliders over the OP or nitpicking on them. You're the one whose needlessly complaining. Pull your head in.

[Rebsat]

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@Matt10
@orion523


Guys, I just wanted to say what is gonna happen? if we change the Line Width from 50/50 to 55/55 as JamieMUFC1990 mentioned:

55/55 width has greatly improved many areas of the game for me and is just as important to the game to work right
as is the high line height because now I am seeing better one on one physical battles between players plus you
now have players better positioned to cut passing lanes off and it also seems to of added a great variety to
the way teams play against me.
Next I am going to be testing line width at 54/54 to see to and make it a little bit harder to play
the ball in behind while hopefully keeping the variety of play from the cpu

also DaBossa said:

56/56 (This effect the whole formation, not just the defence)

[OneDrop]

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[cidheart]

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Those sliders are fantastics!

But I have a question here, are they working in Be a Pro Career too ?

[MrRonald2796]

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Great sliders man!

[Matt10]

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@Matt10
@orion523


Guys, I just wanted to say what is gonna happen? if we change the Line Width from 50/50 to 55/55 as JamieMUFC1990 mentioned:





also DaBossa said:

Hi, Rebs.

The issue I ran into with the higher width is as follows:

1. Defensive line gaps. Yours, and the CPU's, defenders will be pushed too far apart. Line Width does not only affect the width of the attack, midfield, but it highly affects the width as well. In real life, the defensive width compresses, while the midfield and attack usually will stay the same, unless players drop back significanlty. In FIFA 15, the defensive width remains true to the value. So if you have it at 55 or 100, that's how far apart they will stay for the match.

2. LM and RM defensive position. While it seems that just these two positions are affected, it is incorrect because the entire scope of the defense between the LM, LB, CB is affected accordingly. IRL, as LM/RM you are supposed to tuck in goal-side when defending, to prevent any gaps goal-side. If the width is increased, the midfield doesn't tuck in at all, and they end up marking so far onto the touchlines that that their shoes are smeared with chalk. On offense, that is fine, but not on defense. It affectst the LB because he too is also just as far wide, leaving gaps open goal-side, which in turn pushes the CB out of position to make up space, which in turn brings in the RB to get out of position.

It is a chain reaction of things, this width is. Last year in FIFA 14, I used 100 width, because the defensive line still compressed correctly, and it allowed players to mark better throughout the field. This year is different because you have a more pronounced ADD, and the inability for the line width for the defense to compress unless you set that value. This is why most who have line length longer than 38 have also decreased the width, so there are no gaps, and their defenders/midfielders stay goal-side.

As always, slider values in FIFA 15 cannot be isolated, the one value is chosen to compliment other values. This is why slider "creating" is not for the feint of heart, and there are no true solutions, only band-aids. It just depends on what you're willing to give up for the sake of realism to see how long they stick .

[Rebsat]

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Hi, Rebs.

The issue I ran into with the higher width is as follows:

1. Defensive line gaps. Yours, and the CPU's, defenders will be pushed too far apart. Line Width does not only affect the width of the attack, midfield, but it highly affects the width as well. In real life, the defensive width compresses, while the midfield and attack usually will stay the same, unless players drop back significanlty. In FIFA 15, the defensive width remains true to the value. So if you have it at 55 or 100, that's how far apart they will stay for the match.

2. LM and RM defensive position. While it seems that just these two positions are affected, it is incorrect because the entire scope of the defense between the LM, LB, CB is affected accordingly. IRL, as LM/RM you are supposed to tuck in goal-side when defending, to prevent any gaps goal-side. If the width is increased, the midfield doesn't tuck in at all, and they end up marking so far onto the touchlines that that their shoes are smeared with chalk. On offense, that is fine, but not on defense. It affectst the LB because he too is also just as far wide, leaving gaps open goal-side, which in turn pushes the CB out of position to make up space, which in turn brings in the RB to get out of position.

It is a chain reaction of things, this width is. Last year in FIFA 14, I used 100 width, because the defensive line still compressed correctly, and it allowed players to mark better throughout the field. This year is different because you have a more pronounced ADD, and the inability for the line width for the defense to compress unless you set that value. This is why most who have line length longer than 38 have also decreased the width, so there are no gaps, and their defenders/midfielders stay goal-side.

As always, slider values in FIFA 15 cannot be isolated, the one value is chosen to compliment other values. This is why slider "creating" is not for the feint of heart, and there are no true solutions, only band-aids. It just depends on what you're willing to give up for the sake of realism to see how long they stick .

wow Great work as always bro. Really appreciate what you are doing for all FIFA fans around the globe. Thank you a ton

[L4velle]

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Has the game been patched again? Hoping no game play changes but it has scanned faces in for premier league promoted sides. Xbox one was 258mb

[Stimuli]

Re: FIFA 15 OS Community Sliders

Has the game been patched again? Hoping no game play changes but it has scanned faces in for premier league promoted sides. Xbox one was 258mb

Yes, new patch - 328.1MB on PS4

Update notes here - http://forum.ea.com/uk/posts/list/0/2972050.page

• Gameplay improvements to defensive positioning and lob through balls

I'll play a few games later and see if Matt will have to start from scratch :o)

[L4velle]

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Cheers mate. I can see from patch notes that defensive positioning has been tweaked but I've just played Roma vs Atalanta and I'm thankfully not seeing anything that is glaringly obvious which I'm thankful of as we've finally nailed a good set (admititley I've altered them slightly to personal preference)I'll be playing most of the day as I've got the week off work (UK time)so ill post up any changes I'm seeing.

[fearwhatnow]

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There are big gameplay changes in the recent patch. Matt and Orion will have to work their set from scratch.

[Matt10]

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Haha, figures. Well, exciting nonetheless.

[L4velle]

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Unfortunately it seems to have been changed for the worse. The AI has stopped scoring. I always struggled to keep clean sheets pre patch but now I have kept 4 clean sheets in a row. Why have they changed it we finally got the balance just right?!?