Easiest way to scout Dev trait?

[milldaddy35]

In a league of mine, another person said he found a way to figure out there Dev trait, without actually scouting it. I believe him because in the last draft he drafter a star dev WR in the 5th round, and he also has high 70's from the 5-7 rounds. Does anyone know this trick?

[lasto]

Re: Easiest way to scout Dev trait?

I am not sure if there is a guaranteed way (people speculate both awareness and consistency). Consistency can sometimes indicate a high dev trait. Regardless of their dev trait, if they have high consistency they will earn more XP than average.


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[milldaddy35]

Re: Easiest way to scout Dev trait?

I am not sure if there is a guaranteed way (people speculate both awareness and consistency). Consistency can sometimes indicate a high dev trait. Regardless of their dev trait, if they have high consistency they will earn more XP than average.


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[troy184]

Re: Easiest way to scout Dev trait?

Scout the personality trait......it has worked very well for me

[96CFrank]

Re: Easiest way to scout Dev trait?

Scout the personality trait......it has worked very well for me

Could you specify on this? Like is it higher the personally the higher the development? At what #s does it kick in? Like does it take 80 personality to = what development level?

[WelshWizard]

Re: Easiest way to scout Dev trait?

I have Superstar/Quick dev trait on players with 40-50 Personality so wouldn't say there is any correlation just coincidence.

With the ways you can get xp and improve players I wouldn't rate the dev trait so much. I just focus on my needs put them through my position specification and try and get the best player available. Most of the time the good players have a decent trait which is a nice bonus.

[rushinplayallgame]

Re: Easiest way to scout Dev trait?

scout for scheme, the attributes that you want, like a strong offensive line for example. build their awareness and you should have completely capable players.

my best players, I scouted one attribute that mattered most and built the player around that.

or just spend the 500 on dev. trait, maybe only if your coach has a bonus, but even then- you will just have players you have to give huge salaries to.

[Richie71]

Re: Easiest way to scout Dev trait?

Keep the player awareness down until you have the players on a long term contract. Awareness has a big effect on Overall, which has a big effect on salaries.
I use a "house rule" of only manually progressing players under 25 years old, and only using practice points for rookies and 1st year players. So I look for 20-21 year old rookies, with ratings in the key areas. I find OL easiest to develop, as even backups get XPs and if you get a guy with good STR you only have to work on RBK, PBK, IBL (perhaps only for pulling guards) and awareness.

[JTHV]

Re: Easiest way to scout Dev trait?

Hi guys, long time creeper here and this is my 1st post. I wanted to share with ya'll what strategy I use in scouting.

First, I sort all players by age 20 to 24. Then I scout the players that only fit my scheme or bpa.

The only, only attribute I scout is Intangible and I only scout it once for 25 points.

"B" is always a 78-84+ Overall.
"C" is always a 71-79 and sometimes in the low 80's.

Sometimes I scout the dev trait but only when seeking a cornerstone for my team like a QB, LT etc.

The last draft I had yielded 3 players above 80 and the rest in mid to high 70's.

When scouting Intangibles, don't scout it more than once.

Test this strategy ASAP and post your personal experience. I'd almost guarantee you will thanking me when you find that 83 overall Pass Blocking RT in the 6th round.

Let me know what happens,

James

[JTHV]

Re: Easiest way to scout Dev trait?

Hi guys, long time creeper here and this is my 1st post. I wanted to share with ya'll what strategy I use in scouting.

First, I sort all players by age 20 to 24. Then I scout the players that only fit my scheme or bpa.

The only, only attribute I scout is Intangible and I only scout it once for 25 points.

"B" is always a 78-84+ Overall.
"C" is always a 71-79 and sometimes in the low 80's.

Sometimes I scout the dev trait but only when seeking a cornerstone for my team like a QB, LT etc.

The last draft I had yielded 3 players above 80 and the rest in mid to high 70's.

When scouting Intangibles, don't scout it more than once.

Test this strategy ASAP and post your personal experience. I'd almost guarantee you will thanking me when you find that 21 year old, 83 Overall Pass Blocking RT in the 6th round.

Let me know what happens,

James

[milldaddy35]

Re: Easiest way to scout Dev trait?

Ill try that James, when intangibiles are high, does that mean awarness is also high?

[lasto]

Re: Easiest way to scout Dev trait?

Hi guys, long time creeper here and this is my 1st post. I wanted to share with ya'll what strategy I use in scouting.



First, I sort all players by age 20 to 24. Then I scout the players that only fit my scheme or bpa.



The only, only attribute I scout is Intangible and I only scout it once for 25 points.



"B" is always a 78-84+ Overall.

"C" is always a 71-79 and sometimes in the low 80's.



Sometimes I scout the dev trait but only when seeking a cornerstone for my team like a QB, LT etc.



The last draft I had yielded 3 players above 80 and the rest in mid to high 70's.



When scouting Intangibles, don't scout it more than once.



Test this strategy ASAP and post your personal experience. I'd almost guarantee you will thanking me when you find that 83 overall Pass Blocking RT in the 6th round.



Let me know what happens,



James

I have not tried this, but will post my results tonight. My only argument against this is that you might get a high overall that is pumped up by awareness but not the traits you are looking for. For example, if I scout an RB and he has a B intangibles I might think that is good but if he has B speed and B accel he is pretty much worthless to me.


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[troy184]

Re: Easiest way to scout Dev trait?

Could you specify on this? Like is it higher the personally the higher the development? At what #s does it kick in? Like does it take 80 personality to = what development level?

From my personal experience.....I scout their personality trait and if it is a B they generally have at least "quick" development. If its an A......they usually have "Superstar" dev. My best advice would be to run some trial franchises. I feel sure you won't be disappointed using my method. Nice thread btw. I am going to go try some of the other ideas given in this thread. They also look like good recommendations.

[lasto]

Re: Easiest way to scout Dev trait?

James is absolutely correct. I have a spreadsheet that I made and use to scout players, but have also tested the 'intangible' theory since so many on the Madden subreddit swear by it.



Here are the pros & cons I've found with this method -



PROS:



* 'B' intangible is a GUARANTEED top player of the draft

* 'C' intangible is a mix of decent/good/great players

* To scout Intangible only costs 25 SP.. so it can be cheaper than scouting 3-4+ traits per player.



CONS:



* There are usually VERY few 'B' intangible players and you have to drop 25 SP on every player you scout until you find the 'B's.

* While 'D' intangible means the player is absolute trash, the 'C' intangible players could be anywhere from decent (70 OVR w/ low AWR & ok traits) to fantastic (79 OVR w/ decent AWR & fantastic traits + high DEV)... but there's no way to know which ones are which with just the intangible method.



I personally prefer my method (which always yields a mix of highly rated legit players, high dev players, and medium rated players that just need a few areas to be increase to become fantastic).



My method is to have a requirement trait per position that I scout. This requirement trait must be an A (or B for some positions) in order for me to scout further. For example... I will scout all QBs for their THP (throw power) and if it is an A I will then scout their SAC/MAC/DAC & SPD. If the THP is a B, I stop and disregard that player. This costs 10 SP per QB so I save 15 SP per QB (over the intangible method) who doesn't have an A in THP. This usually clears out 70% of the QBs and then I can either scout all 3 accuracies (10 SP a piece) or intangible (which is just a combination of these 3 plus things like Play action and throw on run) for 25 SP. I also use this method for DL (STR must be an A), RB (SPD must be an A), WR/TE (CIT must be a B), CB (SPD must be an A), etc.



I scout more in depth on the players I'm interested in and give value (with the spreadsheet tool I have) to each player for their scouted traits and then weigh them based on what I deem important/costly.... this then gives the players a raw number and I can use that to compare who is not only the best per position... but the best overall in the draft.



Yes, definitely more in-depth and time consuming.. but I like how it feels authentic when I find the gems every draft.

Do you have your own scouting tool or do you use the one posted here by JRT2006? If you have your own, would you mind sharing it?


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[JTHV]

Re: Easiest way to scout Dev trait?

Ill try that James, when intangibiles are high, does that mean awarness is also high?

Not necessarily on the "C" rated players, but in my case I use the Tampa 2 defense (Bucs Fan) and if I find a FS that fits my scheme and is a "C" intangible, I'll scout the Development and Consistency traits once each. Keep in mind, I will only scout the Dev trait if I'm absolutely positive the guy fits my scheme and is already a "C" intangible. This process will cost me roughly 540 scouting points but will usually produce a Tampa 2 Free Safety that has a trait of either Zone or Playmaker, whom is 22 or younger and is rated a 76ovr. Bonus? I don't have to draft him until the 4th round because he was predicted to go in 6th.

Hope this helps a bit.

James