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  • k_mac
    MVP
    • Mar 2011
    • 2059

    #1201
    Re: 2014-15 Hot Stove League Thread

    Originally posted by ShowTyme15
    Cubs could make a run at Justin Upton according to ESPN insiders.

    Only problem is that we're on his not trade list that only consists of like four teams. If he removes us from that, sure. The Cubs and Braves have matched up quite a few times since Theo came into town, I'm sure they know exactly what they want from us.

    Oh, and Lester. I'm happy, very happy.


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    • JODYE
      JB4MVP
      • May 2012
      • 4834

      #1202
      Re: 2014-15 Hot Stove League Thread

      Originally posted by ShowTyme15
      Cubs could make a run at Justin Upton according to ESPN insiders.
      Strange because Justin Upton put the Cubs on his no-trade list.
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      • D13
        Pro
        • Jun 2013
        • 611

        #1203
        Re: 2014-15 Hot Stove League Thread

        Originally posted by ShowTyme15
        Cubs could make a run at Justin Upton according to ESPN insiders.

        You have any links to this?


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        • Mo
          SSN
          • May 2003
          • 11425

          #1204
          Re: 2014-15 Hot Stove League Thread

          Originally posted by D13
          You have any links to this?


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          • TattooedEvil
            Pro
            • Sep 2014
            • 795

            #1205
            Re: 2014-15 Hot Stove League Thread

            Onto the Scherzer sweepstakes...he prob will pull $28M per year. Don't think he gets $30M

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            • WaitTilNextYear
              Go Cubs Go
              • Mar 2013
              • 16830

              #1206
              Re: 2014-15 Hot Stove League Thread

              Originally posted by 13
              Strange because Justin Upton put the Cubs on his no-trade list.
              The NTC's are usually leverage plays meaning the player can use it as leverage to get the acquiring team to pick up an option or do an extension etc..He's only got 1 year left, so I'd assume his agent might ask for a gentleman's agreement on a future extension. By the way, the NTC's are rarely because a player does not want to play for said team.

              Sums up my reaction to getting Lester...

              Last edited by WaitTilNextYear; 12-10-2014, 02:23 AM.
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              • JODYE
                JB4MVP
                • May 2012
                • 4834

                #1207
                Re: 2014-15 Hot Stove League Thread

                Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                The NTC's are usually leverage plays meaning the player can use it as leverage to get the acquiring team to pick up an option or do an extension etc..He's only got 1 year left, so I'd assume his agent might ask for a gentleman's agreement on a future extension. By the way, the NTC's are rarely because a player does not want to play for said team.
                Yeah, that is what I was getting ready to post, because it appears his list are all teams that are shopping for bats. Makes more sense now after reading into it a bit more.
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                • WaitTilNextYear
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                  • Mar 2013
                  • 16830

                  #1208
                  Re: 2014-15 Hot Stove League Thread

                  Originally posted by 13
                  Yeah, that is what I was getting ready to post, because it appears his list are all teams that are shopping for bats. Makes more sense now after reading into it a bit more.
                  You might remember from a couple of years back, there was chatter on the Cubs kicking the tires on Upton when he was still a D'Back. People were speculating a deal around Starlin Castro for Upton. That obviously won't happen here.

                  For what it's worth, I've been a BIG fan of Upton for a few years now. I really like his game.
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                  • k_mac
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 2059

                    #1209
                    Re: 2014-15 Hot Stove League Thread

                    Just a thought, if the Cubs/Upton rumor has any legs to it. Maybe we swap bad contracts, sending them Edwin and get BJ in addition to Justin.

                    BJ makes $14M, $15M and $16M over the next three, while Jackson is at $11. Right now, I'm thinking that I don't want anything to do with BJ. I guess that I feel the same way about Edwin though. The only way I'd support it is if it meant Atlanta would take less and thank us for ridding them of BJ.

                    Still, there's a lot of "what ifs" and the better Upton still has to agree to be traded to the Cubs for any of this to happen. Kind of Thinking out loud here.


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                    • WaitTilNextYear
                      Go Cubs Go
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 16830

                      #1210
                      Re: 2014-15 Hot Stove League Thread

                      Originally posted by k_mac
                      Just a thought, if the Cubs/Upton rumor has any legs to it. Maybe we swap bad contracts, sending them Edwin and get BJ in addition to Justin.

                      BJ makes $14M, $15M and $16M over the next three, while Jackson is at $11. Right now, I'm thinking that I don't want anything to do with BJ. I guess that I feel the same way about Edwin though. The only way I'd support it is if it meant Atlanta would take less and thank us for ridding them of BJ.

                      Still, there's a lot of "what ifs" and the better Upton still has to agree to be traded to the Cubs for any of this to happen. Kind of Thinking out loud here.


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                      In principle, I could see a deal like that happening. E-Jax is owed $26MM over the next 2 years and BJ is owed $46.4MM over the next 3 years. I don't think 1 year of Justin Upton is worth the excess $20MM we'd be taking on unless we were definitely going to lock him up and if we thought BJ had something left in the tank that's untapped in Atlanta. In other words, there'd have to be something else the Braves bring to the table to make this work. I wonder if Atlanta would be interested in Welington Castillo if they are trying Gattis all around the diamond or trading him.

                      The other issue with that is Upton in LF closes a spot on the diamond for Bryant/Schwarber to migrate to. That makes the idea seem a bit odd.
                      Last edited by WaitTilNextYear; 12-10-2014, 02:49 AM.
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                      • TheMatrix31
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 52931

                        #1211
                        Re: 2014-15 Hot Stove League Thread

                        Good for the Cubs and Lester getting this done. I admire Lester taking less than he could have gotten from San Francisco to go where he truly wanted to be.

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                        • TattooedEvil
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                          • Sep 2014
                          • 795

                          #1212
                          Re: 2014-15 Hot Stove League Thread

                          Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                          Good for the Cubs and Lester getting this done. I admire Lester taking less than he could have gotten from San Francisco to go where he truly wanted to be.
                          Lester didnt take less. SF offered 6 yrs @ 150M...he asked them to go 7 yrs and Sabean said he'd never go 7

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                          • Master Live 013
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                            • Oct 2013
                            • 12458

                            #1213
                            Re: 2014-15 Hot Stove League Thread

                            I'm tired of hearing about BJ Upton. The Braves ****ed over with that contract, it was bad the minute it was signed and you could see it a mile away. I don't think there will be any lifesavers, Braves are gonna have to eat it.
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                            • TheMatrix31
                              RF
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 52931

                              #1214
                              Re: 2014-15 Hot Stove League Thread

                              Originally posted by TattooedEvil
                              Lester didnt take less. SF offered 6 yrs @ 150M...he asked them to go 7 yrs and Sabean said he'd never go 7
                              I'm going off

                              Jeff Passan ‏<s>@</s>JeffPassan The San Francisco Giants were willing to go seven years, somewhere in the neighborhood of $168 million for Jon Lester. He took less money.
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                              Giants never did offer a seventh year, but there was an understanding that if Lester indicated he wanted SF, Giants would be at seven ~$168.

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                              • KMRblue1027
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                                • Oct 2011
                                • 1029

                                #1215
                                Re: 2014-15 Hot Stove League Thread

                                Come on San Fran panic and overpay for Scherzer. LA goes for Shields in response. Boston is left out of the FA game.
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