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  • gottibino
    "I am Tiger Woods"
    • Oct 2004
    • 1590

    #1

    Pro v AllStar v Superstar

    can some1 please explain to me specific differences between these 3 sets of difficulty? Obviously I understand a lot has to do w the players ability BUT id like to know how differently the cpu acts or plays on these levels...
    THANKS to ALL who can help me better understand the specifics.
    psn: Kobe_8Mamba_24
  • Shady Mike
    Banned
    • Nov 2014
    • 1218

    #2
    Re: Pro v AllStar v Superstar

    All I know is on Superstar and HOF YOUR key physical ratings are decreased I noticed my guys getting caught from behind in BS situations, and the CPU hitting shots they shouldn't make consistently, and I just don't see that on All-Star.

    Also the momentum swings are heavily in favor of the CPU on Superstar and above. Got a 12 point lead? Too bad, because Michael Jordan is going to possess your opponent's best player and go on a rampage, while you miss every shot and free throw. This is significantly toned down in AS and Pro. I just think All-star is the best stage to tweak from.

    So to sum it up, I'd say as you go up to superstar the CPU gets more momentum swings, and your key physical attributes are nerfed more.

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    • gottibino
      "I am Tiger Woods"
      • Oct 2004
      • 1590

      #3
      Re: Pro v AllStar v Superstar

      Originally posted by Shady Mike
      All I know is on Superstar and HOF YOUR key physical ratings are decreased I noticed my guys getting caught from behind in BS situations, and the CPU hitting shots they shouldn't make consistently, and I just don't see that on All-Star.

      Also the momentum swings are heavily in favor of the CPU on Superstar and above. Got a 12 point lead? Too bad, because Michael Jordan is going to possess your opponent's best player and go on a rampage, while you miss every shot and free throw. This is significantly toned down in AS and Pro. I just think All-star is the best stage to tweak from.

      So to sum it up, I'd say as you go up to superstar the CPU gets more momentum swings, and your key physical attributes are nerfed more.
      great response & exactly the info & input i was looking for! thx brother
      greatly appreciated
      psn: Kobe_8Mamba_24

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      • ruxpinke
        Pro
        • Apr 2008
        • 908

        #4
        Re: Pro v AllStar v Superstar

        i think pro is the most "fair" in terms of not getting CPU boosts, but alot of people, me included, dont think the CPU is aggressive enough on that setting
        PSN: PrettyToney

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        • Shady Mike
          Banned
          • Nov 2014
          • 1218

          #5
          Re: Pro v AllStar v Superstar

          Originally posted by ruxpinke
          i think pro is the most "fair" in terms of not getting CPU boosts, but alot of people, me included, dont think the CPU is aggressive enough on that setting
          I agree, I've felt that way for a long time, but I could never get that killer instinct from the CPU on PRO regardless of what sliders I used.

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          • gottibino
            "I am Tiger Woods"
            • Oct 2004
            • 1590

            #6
            Re: Pro v AllStar v Superstar

            thanks guys, greatly appreciate the input. i figured as much w the flow being a little better & more aggressive. thanks again!
            psn: Kobe_8Mamba_24

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            • GodzSoulja76
              Rookie
              • Jan 2011
              • 14

              #7
              Re: Pro v AllStar v Superstar

              i'll try it on all-star tonight

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              • AuburnAlumni
                War Eagle
                • Jul 2002
                • 11939

                #8
                Pro v AllStar v Superstar

                I play on Pro w Sim slider settings. The CPU is plenty aggressive for me.

                I'm 9-11 in my Pacers association and the Kings just shot 40 free throws, had 60 points (scored 120) in the paint w Cousins raping me for 25 pts and 20 Rebs. They shot 47% for the game and 36% from 3.

                Maybe I'm just terrible but I don't see how folks can play on Superstar, etc and get any enjoyment out of CPU cheats against them. I'll stick w Pro.
                AUBURN TIGERS
                MINNESOTA VIKINGS
                INDIANA PACERS

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                • HUSTLER_79
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 132

                  #9
                  Re: Pro v AllStar v Superstar

                  Good point man ..to each his own
                  I play superstar and yeah cpu cheats me every game
                  hitting contested jumpers and impossible layups
                  rebounda in cpu favour

                  but I refuse to lower the difficulty ..I already wentdown from hof
                  to superstat but I refuse to play all star its too arcady and I win easily
                  no challenge but leas cheats yeah .

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                  • gottibino
                    "I am Tiger Woods"
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 1590

                    #10
                    Re: Pro v AllStar v Superstar

                    Thx guys, appreciate the feedback
                    psn: Kobe_8Mamba_24

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                    • FUWS
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 98

                      #11
                      Re: Pro v AllStar v Superstar

                      Originally posted by gottibino
                      can some1 please explain to me specific differences between these 3 sets of difficulty? Obviously I understand a lot has to do w the players ability BUT id like to know how differently the cpu acts or plays on these levels...
                      THANKS to ALL who can help me better understand the specifics.
                      I dont even bother with Super star or HOF because I actually want to have fun playing the game . Anyway, I currently play in Pro because this level seems to be the most fair. I did up the off/def awareness and on ball defense sliders by 5 so the cpu plays more smart. I also play on realistic shooting and free throws. I was beating the cpu by 20pts or more when I was using "user release" settings. Now my games are close and more fun. You miss shots even if your wide open. this happens in real life too.

                      I 've tried allstar but I got frustrated when CPU would cheat you out to make the games close.
                      Just a fyi before I get trashed here for playing on pro. I've been playing nba 2k since the dreamcast days and prefer more simulation play. I simply did not get that when I played in allstar so I didnt even bother Superstar or HOF.

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                      • ffpp
                        Pro
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 514

                        #12
                        Re: Pro v AllStar v Superstar

                        I started out on Pro to get comfortable with the controls, then moved on to All-Star until I got comfortable with the advanced controls, coaching settings and so on. Then moved on to Superstar when this got (a bit) too easy.

                        I would say that All-Star might be the best balanced difficulty overall. Neither CPU nor user seem favored by cheats or anything.

                        But when I play in myleague, I felt that it got too easy on All-Star. Games could be going well or not so well, but eventually most games would just swing in my favor if I just kept calm and kept playing as I was. I actually got a bit monotonous for me and wins kept coming a bit automatically.
                        On Superstar though, the game really challenges you to not just play-the-right-way but to absolutely play to your team's strenghts. And when that doesn't work to have a backup plan ready. And when this doesn't either, just trying to keep it together, not letting an opposing lead get out of hand until the momentum swings back to you.

                        I didn't notice any blatant cheating by the CPU on superstar, maybe some things are just skewed a bit in its direction, e.g. rebounding.
                        But over the course of a lot of games, FG% and 3pt% don't seem to favor the CPU or me.
                        Nonetheless, be prepared to be frustrated when you manage to keep up well over the whole game just to have a momentum swing favoring the CPU opponent take the game away from you during the last quarter But that can also happen in your favor as well. And it can happen on All-Star, too. And isn't even unrealistic.

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                        • LorenzoDC
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 1857

                          #13
                          Re: Pro v AllStar v Superstar

                          Originally posted by ffpp
                          I started out on Pro to get comfortable with the controls, then moved on to All-Star until I got comfortable with the advanced controls, coaching settings and so on. Then moved on to Superstar when this got (a bit) too easy.

                          I would say that All-Star might be the best balanced difficulty overall. Neither CPU nor user seem favored by cheats or anything.

                          But when I play in myleague, I felt that it got too easy on All-Star. Games could be going well or not so well, but eventually most games would just swing in my favor if I just kept calm and kept playing as I was. I actually got a bit monotonous for me and wins kept coming a bit automatically.
                          On Superstar though, the game really challenges you to not just play-the-right-way but to absolutely play to your team's strenghts. And when that doesn't work to have a backup plan ready. And when this doesn't either, just trying to keep it together, not letting an opposing lead get out of hand until the momentum swings back to you.

                          I didn't notice any blatant cheating by the CPU on superstar, maybe some things are just skewed a bit in its direction, e.g. rebounding.
                          But over the course of a lot of games, FG% and 3pt% don't seem to favor the CPU or me.
                          Nonetheless, be prepared to be frustrated when you manage to keep up well over the whole game just to have a momentum swing favoring the CPU opponent take the game away from you during the last quarter But that can also happen in your favor as well. And it can happen on All-Star, too. And isn't even unrealistic.
                          I've been playing for years, and I just haven't been able to make the jump consistently to SS on my slider sets. I use this as a base but have to modify the set post patch to make it work on AS with realistic shooting percentages.

                          On SS, maybe I'm just not good enough at defense, but even for games where I have the clear roster advantage, I can't keep the CPU from making runs that just get insane and the cheese takes over. I'm one of those guys who practices and loks at all the tips and videos, so it' not the I'm lazy to learn. I must be missing something because I'm just not good enough and the game at that point is not fun.

                          I feel like it happens even when I'm playing good defense. I game plan, set my defensive settings, adjust them for what I see happening to keep my defenders on a string, etc.

                          But even if I'm playing good defense, you see things like your PF moving like his pants are on fire out of the lane to make room for the driving PG. Or you see the CPU big pull up and nail a 3 with a 28 3 pt shooting attribute. I make a block and protect the paint and the CPU gets 3 impossible offensive rebounds and a recovered tipped pass in one possession before scoring a layup with a small guard over my center. I laughed so hard when I saw the CPU initiate a block successfully from BEHIND the backboard, through the backboard, to disrupt my open lane layup from my SF with a 90 driving layup attribute.

                          It's not always that bad, but I can't hang with SS consistently. I feel like you have to play perfect defense with a clearly superior roster to have a chance, which to me means that the setting is too heavily imbalanced to favor the CPU. The CPU steals the ball too easily to fuel these momentum runs that take over the game with transition buckets, and I'm not a bad passer or pass decision maker (with a team built around playmaking in the triangle system).

                          If there's anyone out there who can talk about how to get good enough to make the jump from sim slider settings at AS to SS, I'm all ears. My ego would like to be able to play on that level. But in the end, the game is for me to have fun and feel like I can win or lose fair and square. Right now I have that on AS with my slider tweaks.

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