MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

[ronyell]

not that there haven't been other threads & not that there isn't a regression testing thread to assist us in finding a workaround for this issue; but i just feel that this issue should remain in a forefront capacity considering we have not yet gotten a response and we are nearing the halfway point in the gaming cycle.

i realize that many consider it to be a non-issue for 90% of the players in the HIGHLY touted MyLeague to DRASTICALLY regress once they reach 27-28 but for the MANY of us that purchase this game solely because of these such modes & even moreso because of how this mode was stream-promoted here on OS; this is a MUST fix or at BARE minimum MUST-ADDRESS for us. We should at least be informed as to if a fix is coming or if we HAVE to create our own tedious workarounds to enjoy the mode after one season.

I am sure many are, like myself; SLOWLY going through their first season of their MyLeague until we get ANY kind of word on this. In hopes that we can go through our MyLeagues as usual & as we expected to.

This post is not meant to be a rant nor is it an attack BUT serve as a reminder that failing to acknowledge & address on the very site that was used to promote the mode is extremely concerning. And hopefully now after the holidays we can get even the slightest inclination as to IF this will even be fixed. There was a LOT of fluid communication on this mode prior to & shortly after release... it'd be nice to get the same on an issue that so largely impacts the mode itself.

P.S. - anyone posting please refrain from trolling, attacking & being belligerent while expressing your discontent.

[SavoyPrime]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

I fully support this. Any official word on whether this will be fixed would be nice. All it takes is a yes or no. I don't need a time frame of when it will be fixed. Just a simple yes or no on the subject. Some kind of assurance that it is being worked on. If it isn't going to be fixed, then state that and let us move on. Much like ronyell said, this was one of the biggest modes hyped when 2K15 first opened the flood gates on info. This regression issue severely hampers this mode. I know most of the 2K players just play online, but for us remaining who dive deep into our franchise modes, this is an issue that needs to be addressed. It shouldn't be any less important just because it isn't a mode most 2K players play. All the silence is disturbing since there was so many devs on OS in September/October. I understand that work on 2K16 has already started, but a dev taking a few minutes out of their day to just give a response on this I don't feel is too much to ask.

[annan]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

I agree as well and my decision on whether or not to purchase the game may hinge on whether this issue will be addressed.

[lkasprzak]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

Any workaround, except changing every player age? Maybe use training on high intensity? Maybe players will gain some ovrl points, and even if they regress they still will keep their ovrl on the same lvl? Any ideas?

[amedawg00]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

I run an online league that will use an offline myleague to generate roster progression and regression for season 2 of our league. Does the regression bug happen after 1 season or 2 seasons. I am strictly an online league player but this issue is extremely concerning. Can anyone confirm if this is an issue after just one simmed season. Thank you and in this case I stand in solidarity with my offline brethren. If any dev can chime in, it'll have to be Leftos or Davez as they were the ones promoting this mode the most pre and post release. Ld2k will just give is platitudes of "the devs have been informed" so let's hope those very devs can cut out the middle man and respond to this legitimate and thoughtfully expressed complaint thread.

[MrScum]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

Let our voice be heard BROTHAS!!!!!!(and sisters)!!!!

[BigT34]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

A regression slider would really fix this--then people could adjust it accordingly.

FWIW, I'm NOT seeing this issue as much anymore with CPU-generated players.

I think the issue could be fixed by a combination of tweaking the regression curves for a FEW attributes and possibly

Overall, the league is slightly too young, but there are MANY teams in my current MyLeague who have 4-6 guys who are 30 or older, which is VERY realistic. I think what may be happening, though, is that players OVR rating is leading them to be undervalued despite having valuable skills.

Superstars seem to age well, KD is currently 35 in MyLeague and 85 overall, still torched me. I've seen some pleasant exceptions for non-stars, too, e.g. Jeremy Lin managed to stay in the mid/high 70s well into his 30s. The best player in the league is a 97 OVR SG who's 31 years old and showing no sign of slowing down, and basically hasn't regressed. I actually traded him away around 28 in anticipation of his regression, and turned out to be totally wrong, which was kind of cool. Suggests to me, though, that this issue may have worse effect on pre-existing players rather than generated players.

But let's remember: Roughly 18% of the NBA is 30 or older--that's it. The guys who do make it past 30 are usually pretty remarkable. So the leagues don't need to get DRASTICALLY older, and in fact most role players don't make it past age 30. It just seems like a few more should.

[JA Money14]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

This is one of the most annoying things I've seen in any 2K. We need it fixed because for some people this is a league killer. I know most players don't make it past 30, but we're not talking about Troy Daniels and Jorge Gutierrez, guys like Bogut, Iguodala, J. Smith, Rudy Gay, Kyle Lowry, Carter-Williams, and those mid range guys that aren't going to be terrible by age 28.

I'm not saying they need to overhaul it, but a tweak in the right direction will work wonders with me. Guys that spend 2+ Months editing this game to near perfection don't want to spend anymore time every offseason going through every team! It's mind numbing.

2K has been absolutely on the ball (excluding patch-gate) in regards to listening and promptly responding so I see no reason that should be ending now.

[ronyell]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

A regression slider would really fix this--then people could adjust it accordingly.

FWIW, I'm NOT seeing this issue as much anymore with CPU-generated players.

I think the issue could be fixed by a combination of tweaking the regression curves for a FEW attributes and possibly

Overall, the league is slightly too young, but there are MANY teams in my current MyLeague who have 4-6 guys who are 30 or older, which is VERY realistic. I think what may be happening, though, is that players OVR rating is leading them to be undervalued despite having valuable skills.

Superstars seem to age well, KD is currently 35 in MyLeague and 85 overall, still torched me. I've seen some pleasant exceptions for non-stars, too, e.g. Jeremy Lin managed to stay in the mid/high 70s well into his 30s. The best player in the league is a 97 OVR SG who's 31 years old and showing no sign of slowing down, and basically hasn't regressed. I actually traded him away around 28 in anticipation of his regression, and turned out to be totally wrong, which was kind of cool. Suggests to me, though, that this issue may have worse effect on pre-existing players rather than generated players.

But let's remember: Roughly 18% of the NBA is 30 or older--that's it. The guys who do make it past 30 are usually pretty remarkable. So the leagues don't need to get DRASTICALLY older, and in fact most role players don't make it past age 30. It just seems like a few more should.

I can agree with the majority... but the problem seems to be that unless they are already highly rated... they plummet at 27 which in most cases is not reasonable or realistic... a LOT of role players & non-superstars develop their skills to allow them to hang around into their 30's (mostly bigs & shooters). IMO stars over the past few years are the ones who fall off most drastically in real life as the age... consistent role players seem to hang around their same skill level for many years. they may not PROGRESS much but they also don't REGRESS much. there are MANY journeyman (if you were to antiquate them a rating) that would hang around the 66-73 OVR mark for many many years & will get signed by any team that has a need at the moment & may even stick with a team.

as it is in the game now... if you're great, you will good into your 30's. If you're middle of the road... you will be out of the league by 28 & if you came into the league at 22-23, you're having an INCREDIBLY short career.

also if you are not using a default roster or are using a roster that does not have many people rated above an 87... you will see the league flooded with new players every 3 to 4 years of you highly-promoted-newly-excited-about-the-fact-that-you-can-now-play-80-years MyLeague.

and yes this has its effects after only one season.

i stand firm to the fact that there used to a PROgression... an IDLE stage & a REgression & now the idle stage has been removed seems to be the issue. there is no peak... players are either progressing or regressing & that kills the immersion for any player that is not a flat out stud.

[DocHolliday]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

I agree that it would be nice if they at least let us know if they plan to do anything about it. This issue has been on the front page of this forum since it has been discovered, and ya know the Devs are cruising these forums.

I don't think its as much as a game killer as some people, but it would be nice if the problem was at least acknowledged one way or the other.

[darkknightrises]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

A regression slider would really fix this--then people could adjust it accordingly.

FWIW, I'm NOT seeing this issue as much anymore with CPU-generated players.

I think the issue could be fixed by a combination of tweaking the regression curves for a FEW attributes and possibly

Overall, the league is slightly too young, but there are MANY teams in my current MyLeague who have 4-6 guys who are 30 or older, which is VERY realistic. I think what may be happening, though, is that players OVR rating is leading them to be undervalued despite having valuable skills.

Superstars seem to age well, KD is currently 35 in MyLeague and 85 overall, still torched me. I've seen some pleasant exceptions for non-stars, too, e.g. Jeremy Lin managed to stay in the mid/high 70s well into his 30s. The best player in the league is a 97 OVR SG who's 31 years old and showing no sign of slowing down, and basically hasn't regressed. I actually traded him away around 28 in anticipation of his regression, and turned out to be totally wrong, which was kind of cool. Suggests to me, though, that this issue may have worse effect on pre-existing players rather than generated players.

But let's remember: Roughly 18% of the NBA is 30 or older--that's it. The guys who do make it past 30 are usually pretty remarkable. So the leagues don't need to get DRASTICALLY older, and in fact most role players don't make it past age 30. It just seems like a few more should.

When I did a few similations though by year 3 of MYLEAGUE the league was only about 9% 30 or older and not only that but just to many guys at 30 go down by 4-6 points almost no one at 30 only goes down 1-2 points all 4-6 points.

[BigT34]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

This is one of the most annoying things I've seen in any 2K. We need it fixed because for some people this is a league killer. I know most players don't make it past 30, but we're not talking about Troy Daniels and Jorge Gutierrez, guys like Bogut, Iguodala, J. Smith, Rudy Gay, Kyle Lowry, Carter-Williams, and those mid range guys that aren't going to be terrible by age 28.

I'm not saying they need to overhaul it, but a tweak in the right direction will work wonders with me. Guys that spend 2+ Months editing this game to near perfection don't want to spend anymore time every offseason going through every team! It's mind numbing.

2K has been absolutely on the ball (excluding patch-gate) in regards to listening and promptly responding so I see no reason that should be ending now.

I get what you're saying.

Somewhat off topic, but do you consider Bogut and Lowry to be mid-range? Those guys are superstars. Bogut's arguably the best rim-protecter in the league this season and an elite passer for a big man, and Lowry's having an unbelievable year, is 9th in the league in PER and is leading an offense putting up historic numbers.

[Painkiller1974]

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And now in MyLeague we also have this problem...


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When i start a new MyGM or MyLeague and turn on the roster injuries, the injured players won't start recovering until today. For example Kyrie Irving is listed Day-to-Day at the beginning of the season. But he doesn't recover from that injury in a few days. He is all the time until the real date (January 6th) listed as Day-to-Day and then starts to recover. So Kyrie is injured half of the season. And it's applying not only to Kyrie, it's applying to all players which are injured at the beginning of the season. Players who get injured within the season are not affected, so it has something to do with roster injuries. (PS4)

Nothing changed with the latest update, it's still the same. Players like Kyrie, LeBron, DeRozan and Big Al stay injured for half of the season and don't start recovering until January. Please fix it! It has definitely something to do with the Roster Update!

[amedawg00]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

Does the regression bug happen in season 2 or after season 2. Someone please answer.

[darkknightrises]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

Does the regression bug happen in season 2 or after season 2. Someone please answer.

ever offseason so after you finish your first season and are about to start season 2.