Should the Calvin Johnson Rule Be 'In The Game' (Madden 15)

[braves_94]

I beg to differ. Once in a block kick attempt, one of my guys got blocked in the back and knocked completely over the offensive line doing a back-flip, but he landed directly on his neck and it wasn't as graceful as Kam's.

[young6s]

Is this a serious question? EA can't even get the things right that 2k did 10 years ago. How about they focus on making penalties a part of the game first which is ridiculous considering this game is 25 yrs old lol. Knowing EA this will be a main focus on next year's game and they will neglect the parts of the game that need fixed again

[scottyp180]

I'll get this back on track so it doesn't become a complaint thread:

How could they even begin to put this in the game where it didn't feel completely random and forced?

It happens so rarely where this call actually affects the outcome of a game that the last instance people can remember off-hand is Megatron "dropping" that pass back in 2010.

Can EA put in something that affects a game once every 4-5 years?

I know you guys think "if it happens in real life, it should happen in the game", but let's be realistic. I've watched every single Chiefs game since 2008 and I can't remember this rule ever coming into play. Does it really need to be IN the game for Madden to be an accurate representation of the NFL?

If you think about it this is already somewhat in the game its called complete and incomplete passes. If a player makes a catch the games recongizes the play as a catch, if the player does not catch the ball it is called incomplete. They could add animations or physics so that the ball can be dropped or knocked loose upon making contact with the ground, again this might already be in the game, but I don't want it to get to the point where I need to question whether ot not madden refs screw, although it akready happens.

I think it is more important for madden to get penalties and challenges correct. Penalties are nearly non-existent and you can only challenge if and when the game let's you. There have been plenty of times where I want to challenge a call and the game simply does not allow me to.

[young6s]

Madden is a joke. It really is unbelievable to think that 2k put out a better quality game 10 years ago than EA has in its whole existence. The exclusive deal ruined sports gaming.

[snc237]

I would love to see more penalties in madden. Maybe have them turned off for online play so somebody doesn't get a fluke win however it would be nice to see vs a friend or cpu to add that relism to the game.

[rudeworld]

Madden is a joke. It really is unbelievable to think that 2k put out a better quality game 10 years ago than EA has in its whole existence. The exclusive deal ruined sports gaming.

It would be difficult to add something like this into madden, without people complaining about it happening too many times. Also that play in yesterdays game (as well as the Calvin Johnson play)is a judgement call. When I saw the play I thought Dez Bryant made a football move when he lundged to the goal line which should have resulted in a spectacular catch, dive, fumble at 1/2 yard line and a recovery in the end zone.....

Should it be in the game? Yes.... Does "its in the game" even matters anymore? Which brings me to even if the play was in the game.... Would the correct challenge be in the list of challenges available to pick from??...

[jyoung]

Re: Should the Calvin Johnson Rule Be 'In The Game' (Madden 15)

It would be difficult to add something like this into madden, without people complaining about it happening too many times.

All they'd have to do is give these kind of events an appropriate probability of occurring.

All-Pro Football 2K8 had bobbled snaps, dropped hand-offs, blocked kicks, and bad snaps flying way overhead. Plus in bad weather, there would be plays where the athletes just slipped and fell down. But those things happened so rarely in APF 2K8 that they were just cool and interesting when they occurred, not frustrating.

A little randomness, even if the random event punishes the player, can go a long way towards making a sports game feel more tense and exciting.

[NINJAK2]

Re: Should the Calvin Johnson Rule Be 'In The Game' (Madden 15)

I echo everyone else here. Madden needs to get penalties integrated in a realistic manner 1st before they worry about adding something like this. DB/WR interactions need to be a focal point so that it is atleast on the level of 2k5. Most of these penalties aren't even called and if they are sometimes there is zero visual cue of them such as DPI,OPI, etc. I remember Madden made a big deal about putting in the David Tyree helmet catch and adding it to the game the following year because that was the in thing at the time. this is not important enough imo.

[timhere1970]

Re: Should the Calvin Johnson Rule Be 'In The Game' (Madden 15)

No need for it. It would only be an animation as passes are already complete or incomplete. No need to add an animation that happens less than once a year. So many more important things ard crying for attention

[TexasFan2005]

Re: Should the Calvin Johnson Rule Be 'In The Game' (Madden 15)

To the original question: On one hand I say yes, absolutely, these things should definitely be in the game. On the other hand, thinking back to how EA implemented the David Tyree catch so that you see it 5x a game, every single game, I'd say NO. There is no middle ground in EA Sports games because there aren't enough animations implemented properly so as to see different variations of events. Get rid of the canned animations and implement more natural movements for players, then these types of situations can happen naturally.

[cattlekiller]

I do think all things that are in the NFL should be in Madden games, but this issue should remain out for now.

Why?Because from all the backlash of this right now, this off season this rule may change.But like many others have said, there is other issues mainly penalties.

[Big FN Deal]

Re: Should the Calvin Johnson Rule Be 'In The Game' (Madden 15)

All they'd have to do is give these kind of events an appropriate probability of occurring.

All-Pro Football 2K8 had bobbled snaps, dropped hand-offs, blocked kicks, and bad snaps flying way overhead. Plus in bad weather, there would be plays where the athletes just slipped and fell down. But those things happened so rarely in APF 2K8 that they were just cool and interesting when they occurred, not frustrating.

A little randomness, even if the random event punishes the player, can go a long way towards making a sports game feel more tense and exciting.

I'm glad I've finally reached the point with Madden where, most of the time, I simply laugh at the approaches for creating it that I find absurd, instead of getting frustrated or disappointed. To that point I want to add to the post I quoted the fact that an option to disable those random events could be provided as well. The repeated notion that x shouldn't be in the game, no matter how much it reasonably adds to the realism of this alleged simulation game, because it will upset gamers, makes me lol every time I read it. It amazes me how the concept of options seem to sometimes get overlooked with regard to applicable realism for Madden.

Also, like others have touched on, the issue/question should not be specifically representing the Calvin Johnson rule, it should be adding the framework to the game where these type of moments can occur quasi organically.

[13whitebread]

Yeah let's change the rule just for dez bryant signed jerry jones. Give me a break how about those Cowgirls?

[kennyacid]

They can't even get the rules that are in the game now correct so why would anyone want another rule in the game. And let's not even talk about the poor replay system in the game....Ehhhh work on what's in now then worry about adding more...

[SageInfinite]

Re: Should the Calvin Johnson Rule Be 'In The Game' (Madden 15)

The challenge system is too broken to even comprehend something like this.