Are they done updating? I still got mbenga as my PG in nba rewind and most of the games I can't play. Not to mention cpu doesn't make substitutions. So everyone just going to sit tight till 16? I still like the gameplay and think it has potential but ignoring the problems they never addressed is a bit of a bummer . Come on ea show us u care!
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Re: So can we admit nba live failed expectations?
Very general question.
If you are comparing it to any other game before it, then I would say NO, its not a disappointment, and I actually think it exceeds expectations in graphics detail, gameplay animations, arena atmosphere, arena layouts, physics, lighting, fun factor, court spacing, halftime show, in season game broadcasters, overall gameplay, and a bunch of other things many have already mentioned in other threads. There is more good than bad in LIVE 15 and would give it an 8 on a re-review, which easily puts it one step behind the competition (8.5 - 9). Both basketball games released to below a 6 for me.
If you speak of missing additional game modes and lack of what has come to be, some common online sports gaming features then yes, I am disappointed, though I am encouraged by some of the podcasts that explained their future direction and focus for LIVE 16/17. Support and communication has been lacking IMO, but thats because some of the parts and pieces of the dev team have moved on, or have been moved around with new responsibilities. Its understandable, but not an excuse.
If you wanted it to be better than 2K's entry, I would say that was an unrealistic goal, head to head to begin with, because each game plays differently and each has its own issues, good and bad. Next year (yr 3) if they release a LIVE 16, they (EA)have no excuse as we raise the bar, and they fulfill their own proclaimed development cycle.
Also, can you please describe your game mode and settings under which you see these issues, because I play almost exclusively dynasty or games against friends all from the broadcast camera on superstar, 12 minutes accelerated, without player icons (icons don't matter just a personal choice for realism), and there are NO substitution issues like you described to be noted from the CPU or user on auto subs. Until we properly standardize and properly categorize our feedback, like some do in the bug thread, the development from community feedback suffers. Some community members do a great job trying to be a liaison for us, (WTF and Steve_OS come to mind) but this is not their job, its volunteer, and more information is better and helps them communicate better.
Lack of details also causes some community observations to be cast off as absurd or craziness by some community members, if its not like what others see in their gameplay experiences, from game settings and camera views to team selection and lineups.
I'm assuming that you are speaking of rewind only (don't play it myself) since you only mentioned that mode, but I cannot properly comment or assist on that issue without being able to set up your exact conditions to test for myself.
In my gameplay, I see time outs called to stop runs (commented on by announcers in game), situational and crunchtime subs, foul trouble subs from CPU, matchup subs from CPU, mid range play from the CPU, CPU and user taking charges, lots of in the paint physics and contact animation shots, proper player box-outs by the user and CPU, smoother transitions on the break, realistic shooting percentages from CPU and user, and generally a different gameplay style from team to team, and from game to game.
Overall NO, I'm not disappointed in LIVE 15 nor did it fail my expectations as generally as you asked.Currently playing:
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Re: So can we admit nba live failed expectations?
It failed my expectations.......Fun game to play in spurts though. But to be perfectly honest I have more fun playing NHL 15 and I don't even like hockey. I am pretty sure they done updating and working full time on Live 16 by now.
Out of all EA Sports games, I rank them in this order.
1. FIFA 15
2. Madden 15
3. NHL 15
4. UFC
5. NBA Live 15
Now I am REALLY glad EA didn't get the WWE license. WWE 2K15 have a ton of sliders and every fighter is FULLY editable. I wish 2k got the UFC license. Just a different mindset between the two companies. 2k is all about full USER custom-ability, with lots of sliders and individual player edits. EA on the other hand year by year is taking away sliders and individual player edits in all of their sports games.
But since Fernando left, who knows what NBA Live 16 will look like.Comment
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Re: So can we admit nba live failed expectations?
That's good to hear.
Look I want to say great things about Live. If it was near 2k I would probably be on here claiming it's the best Live in history.
But as of now it's completely broken.
2k is not completely broken. It's balanced. It plays smooth. Mid range, long range, inside game all play pretty balanced. I'm not claiming there aren't flaws or exploits but it's pretty balanced.
In Live late game.ai doesn't exist. When you play online they dribble to the hole ALL game. They throw full court passes all game. I will leave steal spamming alone because I think that is easy to defeat if you guard the ball.
But gameplay itself is still broken. The mid range game doesn't exist. And post play is as overpowered as it gets.
So gameplay is broken. No game modes, ai is messed up. No sliders. How can you say the game is a success.
Live 14 was garbage so of course it's better.
Look. I just sold 2k. I can't stand how the players feel and move. Defensive movement is broken on 2k. And I love how Live players move and dribble.
If this update fixes gameplay I will say the game is a must have.
Even with no game modes if gameplay becomes balanced with ai fixed it's a fantastic start.
Only problem is the game should have released like that.
The best comment made was from the person that said Live 15 is what live 14 should have been.
But to me I can't even play a serious game online. It's too late to call it a success even if they fix the issues. But it can still be made into a great game. Just needs a good patch.Last edited by zrohman; 02-09-2015, 04:47 PM.Comment
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Re: So can we admit nba live failed expectations?
The frustrating thing about this game is that it seems close to being a more than solid title. A little help with the AI and slight tweak to the shooting percentages and I'll be content until next year.
One more update....Comment
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Re: So can we admit nba live failed expectations?
Glaring issues of CPU never subbing or calling time outs in season was a deal breaker for me. Didn't want to continue my season anymore. No roster share or customizable rosters can be deL breakers too. Gameplay is solid.Comment
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Re: So can we admit nba live failed expectations?
Truth is though gameplay is only solid for those who play the computer. When you go head to head online its the worst. I love h2h sports games online but on Live all people do is goo straight to the basket. I get that many games people claim that they have exploits, but this is the worst exploit that makes the game unplayable literally 90% of the time.
And even against the computer they never have any mid range game.
But truth is as terrible as it is, gameplay wise, it's a few tweaks away from being really good. Will still be behind with modes but will be a great game.Comment
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Re: So can we admit nba live failed expectations?
I just purchased this game 2 weeks ago when XBL was running their EA sale (20 bucks seemed like a great price point). I am not disappointed at all. It's a nice change of pace. I have grown tired of the 2K formula. Thought admittedly, it is still the better game.
When i first played Live 15 via EA early access, I came away very impressed. Gameplay seemed to be fairly balanced, with the biggest issue at the time being the shot release points and animations. Since then, it seems to have progressed in some ways and regressed in others.
My biggest issues since I have purchased it have been the mid-range inconsistencies and the lack of customization. But I still find this to be the most enjoyable game of bball I have played since CH2K8 (with NBA 2k13 being right up there). And while graphically I don't think it's quite on 2Ks level yet, I appreciate the different art style it has. I actually think the skin textures in many ways are better - less clay like. The arenas look better and the crowd atmosphere trumps the competition.
In my dynasty with the Wiz, the last two games I have played against the Cavs and Warriors. I won both contests in a close fashion by making good defensive adjustments, running plays, and using the pick and roll. In doing so, I was able to even get the mid range game going a bit with Nene and Gortat. It was promising, so hopefully it wasnt a fluke...Comment
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Re: So can we admit nba live failed expectations?
Yes I would agree, Live has failed in every category in my opinion except presentation and the look of the game's arena, much more lively compared to 2k which seems dull and boring. Live has killed the immersion with the lively colors and arena glow.Comment
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Re: So can we admit nba live failed expectations?
I actually have fun with the game even in its cheesy state. I only play head to head though. Maybe its the cheesy gameplay from online opponents keeping it fresh for me, I don't know. LUT is a waste to me because I don't play CPU, there's just not enough variety in the gameplay and its entirely TOOO easy. They need to add in an option to play against friends. Rising Star Mode also too easy and again CPU gameplay makes it boring. Whats really killing me though is the communication with the community. They have dropped the ball hard on that front smh....Comment
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Re: So can we admit nba live failed expectations?
One more update isn't going to help this game.
Not unless that one update is them opening up everything for the user to be able to edit (playbooks, player gear, ratings).
Did the game fail expectations? No.
The game probably exceeded expectations from what '14 was.
But the game is so far behind from what it can be because of the lack of customization and sliders.
I thought it'd be something that can be overlooked. But over time, it is a really big deal because you're waiting on them to fix this and fix that when all the things that they could've given us access to would make it more playable to each person's liking even if the game was trash.
I think the gameplay (for a Live game) is actually decent. And it is fun.
But they've handicapped the gamer which makes it unplayable.Comment
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Re: So can we admit nba live failed expectations?
Well said , I agree the game play is decent they have a great foundation this game to me exceeded my expectations as far as gameplay 14 was bad this year is a foot in the right direction the potential is there I didn't think it was going to be this much better than last year kudos to EA for that .....But this game being released without customization options are what's holding this title back..... I think if we had that option this game would easily been most improve title of the year !!! Although I'm loving the game certain things are enabling be to love it hopefully 16 come full featured with fluid player movement and overall gameplay we should get thousands of more animations bring in more NBA Athletes and MO cap everythingComment
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Re: So can we admit nba live failed expectations?
Nah. It's just about what I expected. It's fun to play.
The biggest problem I have with the game is that you are forced to play one way. Im playing franchise mode, and if it isnt a pick and roll, post up, or in transition...Im not scoring.
Creating a shot is really, really difficult. There just arent enough ways to create offense..Unless you are shooting in transition, or off of a double team or pick and roll kick and are WIDE open..chances are you are missing.Comment
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