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  • Nwo4Life75
    Banned
    • May 2014
    • 211

    #31
    Originally posted by Herschie
    They listen to their fans, but they aren't magicians. Any project has its limitations in resources, whether that be time, money, labor, materials, etc. If you're building a house, you can't snap your fingers and make a mansion. You have to consider costs of labor, costs of materials, the type of market you're selling the house to, and ultimately your profit.

    SCEA is no different. I only know Russell from what he posts and from the video clips, and from that, I can conclude that if he could he would snap his fingers and have every little detail (Including my 3:05 games) perfect down to a T. But he faces limitations just like everyone else does.
    I understand that,the problem I have is this option has been requested for awhile now! They have said over and over again in the PS3 wasn't powerful enough. Now we supposedly have the most powerful console ever in the PS4 and they still make excuses. How about this,maybe instead of putting all these bells and whistles in the game,they should address the the most requested stuff fans want to see first. It seems like they come up with these new ideas and force feed it to people. They have a whole year to put things in the game! I know it's not hard to fix the stadium problem. Madden has given you the option for years. But it is what is. I just question how much they really listen to the fans. I know I'm not in the minority about the stadium issue.

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    • NYJin2011tm
      MVP
      • Oct 2011
      • 2752

      #32
      Re: MLB 15 The Show: An Era of Transparency

      I already knew these guys are the best dev group out there. The fact that they are selling the ps3 version for $40 and Vita version for $20 shows me that they truly care about the game and their fans and not just about money.

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      • Sip_16
        Rookie
        • Feb 2013
        • 351

        #33
        Re: MLB 15 The Show: An Era of Transparency

        Originally posted by Nwo4Life75
        I understand that,the problem I have is this option has been requested for awhile now! They have said over and over again in the PS3 wasn't powerful enough. Now we supposedly have the most powerful console ever in the PS4 and they still make excuses. How about this,maybe instead of putting all these bells and whistles in the game,they should address the the most requested stuff fans want to see first. It seems like they come up with these new ideas and force feed it to people. They have a whole year to put things in the game! I know it's not hard to fix the stadium problem. Madden has given you the option for years. But it is what is. I just question how much they really listen to the fans. I know I'm not in the minority about the stadium issue.
        Honestly tho, you have no idea if it is really that requested other than these forums. OS is most likely the most die-hard show fans out there and an important voice but is no way the majority of the Show players.

        Would I like retractable roofs? Of course, especially because I play with the Blue Jays in franchise, it has never really bothered me that much tho, i just enjoy playing the game.

        When they can do it, they will do it. I don't see any other game developers doing what these guys do and I personally would give them some leeway because of that.

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        • rjackson
          MVP
          • Apr 2005
          • 1662

          #34
          Re: MLB 15 The Show: An Era of Transparency

          Yeah, I'd be quick to agree with NWO4life if it wasn't for all the other requests they did fix or add (like equipment and the annual this color is wrong criticisms). I cannot use certain teams for franchise mode because of the roofs.


          I also know that I am one to appear to have blinders on at times, but that seems to be when people are jumping to opinions while ignorant of certain facts or are prioritizing something really small that only affects them.

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          • Armor and Sword
            The Lama
            • Sep 2010
            • 21551

            #35
            Re: MLB 15 The Show: An Era of Transparency

            No one is perfect. While retractable roofs and historical stat tracking are no question the most requested improvements (and I think historical stat tracking is far more important and it is not even close IMO) this team is head and shoulders the best in the biz.

            And oh Historical stat tracking is the #1 priority for 16. So we have that to already look forward too and 15 is not even out yet.

            Do I hope retractable roofs get in the game? Of course it adds to the realism. But those that consider it game breaking I think are just taking things way too far. You can argue about historical stat tracking being far more of a detriment since baseball is a statistical game at it's soul. But roofs? Come on man. I get it...it's important to some but to the majority it is a grain of salt compared to stat tracking.

            The game plays amazing. I can support this title year in year out with 100% confidence they are always improving and building this game each and every year.

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            • braves_94
              Rookie
              • Jul 2013
              • 276

              #36
              I guess the fortunate one who got invited to San Diego doesn't play online. Or for some completely unrelated (smoozing-cough) explanation, doesn't care all too much to bring up why the servers in 2015 are so lackluster.

              But I'm a BIG fan of this game, always have been, offline. I think it stands up to any sports game offering. But if the market is trending towards online play, can San Diego bank on the offline players to continue to carry the franchise? And for the record, I don't care about retractable roofs. It's not like real life Houston here. And I hope they never put in rain delays. Prior or during a franchise game. Improve on the tagging up issues where runners don't want to go to third on deep flys to right center, and I'm good. And less squeeze bunts for the love of god. Or at least have them result in the accurate amount of foul tips.

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              • nomo17k
                Permanently Banned
                • Feb 2011
                • 5740

                #37
                Re: MLB 15 The Show: An Era of Transparency

                Originally posted by braves_94
                I guess the fortunate one who got invited to San Diego doesn't play online. Or for some completely unrelated (smoozing-cough) explanation, doesn't care all too much to bring up why the servers in 2015 are so lackluster.

                But I'm a BIG fan of this game, always have been, offline. I think it stands up to any sports game offering. But if the market is trending towards online play, can San Diego bank on the offline players to continue to carry the franchise? And for the record, I don't care about retractable roofs. It's not like real life Houston here. And I hope they never put in rain delays. Prior or during a franchise game. Improve on the tagging up issues where runners don't want to go to third on deep flys to right center, and I'm good. And less squeeze bunts for the love of god. Or at least have them result in the accurate amount of foul tips.
                I play online fairly consistently (so does Nem I think), so online is indeed a huge concern for many of us who participate in CD events. That doesn't necessarily mean we can always test online gameplay in any meaningful manner in an environment like CD, as a lot of online-specific issues start happening only in production environment.
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                • rjackson
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 1662

                  #38
                  Re: MLB 15 The Show: An Era of Transparency

                  Like I've said before, I used to think that retractable roofs are not a big deal. I'd agree with A&S completely a year ago.


                  After seeing Minute Maid Park for the first time last year and then trying to play a game there, it does have an affect. There are plenty of other teams I like and I don't live in Houston, but I can now see why it is a big deal to someone who is a big fan of theirs to not be able to run a franchise with them. To that minority, it can be a game breaker. To me, personally, it isn't.


                  As somebody else said in another thread - this game is pretty darn amazing when the only stuff we can find to complain about are attention to detail type stuff (like stats, roofs, signs in parks, et cetera).

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                  • nemesis04
                    RIP Ty My Buddy
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 13548

                    #39
                    Re: MLB 15 The Show: An Era of Transparency

                    Originally posted by braves_94
                    I guess the fortunate one who got invited to San Diego doesn't play online. Or for some completely unrelated (smoozing-cough) explanation, doesn't care all too much to bring up why the servers in 2015 are so lackluster.
                    Yeah, you found us out! We all sat around the room and praised them on how fantastic online was in 14. You might want to temper down the uniformed opinion!
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                    • Ghost Of The Year
                      Em El Be ¤ T Bone.
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 6179

                      #40
                      Re: MLB 15 The Show: An Era of Transparency

                      Originally posted by nemesis04
                      Yeah, you found us out! We all sat around the room and praised them on how fantastic online was in 14. You might want to temper down the uniformed opinion!
                      lol I think the opposite of what braves 94 thinks might actually be closer to the truth.
                      I imagine when Sony San Diego sees the bunch from OS arrive at their door, they think "Oh lord, here we go again".
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                      • nemesis04
                        RIP Ty My Buddy
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 13548

                        #41
                        Re: MLB 15 The Show: An Era of Transparency

                        Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
                        lol I think the opposite of what braves 94 thinks might actually be closer to the truth.
                        I imagine when Sony San Diego sees the bunch from OS arrive at their door, they think "Oh lord, here we go again".
                        It is not particularly easy to sit in a conference room in front of some of the development team members and go over items that missed the mark (from the community perspective) when you know the guys sitting there put their heart in soul into it. I know it is something that I and the others who go take very seriously and it has to be approached in a polite professional manner. I am thankful that they entertain this level of interaction. It is not just hanging out and playing games!
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                        • Sco291
                          Pro
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 557

                          #42
                          Re: MLB 15 The Show: An Era of Transparency

                          Originally posted by Nwo4Life75
                          Well if Ramone and the other Show devs really listen to the fans/consumers of the Show,they say they are so passionate about Baseball and the Show. Please tell me why after all these years and how they stress how much they listen to the fans,then why haven't they still not give you the option still to play with the roofs closed on retractable roof stadiums then. Just something simple like that. It has been highly requested by the fans!
                          LOL.

                          I don't think, in this context, "simple" means what you think it means.

                          Btw, I'll take historical stat tracking before retractable roofs.

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                          • Ghost Of The Year
                            Em El Be ¤ T Bone.
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 6179

                            #43
                            Re: MLB 15 The Show: An Era of Transparency

                            Originally posted by Nwo4Life75
                            ...Please tell me why after all these years and how they stress how much they listen to the fans...
                            I've never once heard anyone from the Show toot their own horn,
                            it's always been the customer to proffer that testimony.
                            Plus, with the thousands of simple requests they get, not every one can possibly be implemented.
                            It's just the first star you see at night
                            Don't walk around feeling hazy
                            If you need a taste, take a bite.

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                            • countryboy
                              Growing pains
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52630

                              #44
                              Re: MLB 15 The Show: An Era of Transparency

                              Originally posted by Nwo4Life75
                              Well if Ramone and the other Show devs really listen to the fans/consumers of the Show,they say they are so passionate about Baseball and the Show. Please tell me why after all these years and how they stress how much they listen to the fans,then why haven't they still not give you the option still to play with the roofs closed on retractable roof stadiums then. Just something simple like that. It has been highly requested by the fans!
                              You think its simple. Perhaps you should do research and see what all goes into the development of the game and how stadiums are created and such before stating that something is "so simple".
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                              • BeatArmy
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 431

                                #45
                                I'm going to be slightly contrarian in the praise of SCEA. Last year was a debacle for the PS3 crowd. We got no communication, could not get patches for things fixed for the PS4 (franchise bugets, etc.) and our complaints both on OS and the MLB:TS fora were either closed or ignored. Incidents/bugs that were requested to be noted to the staff were closed/deleted for PS3 without being addressed in the final patch.

                                I'm not sure if the numbers will bear this out but there are many of us holding off purchasing anything this year without solid feedback in the gaming community. You made a buncha enemies last year with the older generation crowd.

                                This all being said, the rollout of this year's edition is light years better than last.

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