Seriously, with the poke checking

[HARTSTOPPER]

Why is it so OP? This is beyond absolutely ridiculous. Poke Checking SHOULD NOT be the first line of defense. Does EA EVER plan on nerfing this garbage style of defensive play? If not, please help me get better and attacking in the offensive zone when it's nothing but poke check spam. I try "protecting the puck" but it does nothing. I try making great passes, but that fails miserably because at any given time there are 5 sticks on the ice making it near impossible to do any sort of setting up in the offensive zone.

[CanadianPuckHead]

Re: Seriously, with the poke checking

just cause you don't know how to defend it doesn't mean it needs a nerf

[jyoung]

Re: Seriously, with the poke checking

All you have to do is hold the right joystick out away from the direction that you're getting stick checked and it will draw a penalty more times than not.

After a few trips to the penalty box, most people will start being more conservative with their stick checks.

[HARTSTOPPER]

Re: Seriously, with the poke checking

just cause you don't know how to defend it doesn't mean it needs a nerf

Spoken like a true poke check spammer. thanks for identifying yourself...

[CanadianPuckHead]

Re: Seriously, with the poke checking

right you not being able to defend a pokecheck makes somebody you have never played against a spammer... logic of a child right there

[LeafsFan90]

Re: Seriously, with the poke checking

yeah this looks like just a complaining thread from someone that is bad lol

[@legendm0de]

Re: Seriously, with the poke checking

when you play online anything goes, thats why its not fun even if you win, it's just fun in its own way. offline you can always activate sliders to tailor the game for realistic action.

[ericromain]

Re: Seriously, with the poke checking

I have the same issue in my real life hockey league. Every time I skate a within sticks-length away from someone, they use their stick to knock my puck away. What's that all about? Don't they know I'm trying to score goals?

[Simple Mathematics]

Re: Seriously, with the poke checking

In real life, defense is all about body positioning. Taking correct lines to your opponent. Clogging passing lanes. NHL 15 displays none of these. You have 3 options on defense - poke check, body check, or stick lift - all of which are used very limitedly in real hockey. Body checking is used in real life - not the bone-crushing hits that are so prevelent in the NHL series.

I feel like me, Bigwill, and AdamJones are beating a dead horse now. But hopefully EA reads at least one of our comments.

[canucksss]

Re: Seriously, with the poke checking

Unfortunately this is the reason why I gave up playing random online games.

But hopefully EA reads at least one of our comments.

THAT IS A WISHFUL THINKING..........

[AdamJones113]

Re: Seriously, with the poke checking

In real life, defense is all about body positioning. Taking correct lines to your opponent. Clogging passing lanes. NHL 15 displays none of these. You have 3 options on defense - poke check, body check, or stick lift - all of which are used very limitedly in real hockey. Body checking is used in real life - not the bone-crushing hits that are so prevelent in the NHL series.

I feel like me, Bigwill, and AdamJones are beating a dead horse now. But hopefully EA reads at least one of our comments.

... Or one of the GameChangers brings it to the attention of EA. By next week, I hope to have a full packet of information (including bigwill's thread, elements of the Revamped rosters, etc) that EA could use.

[actionhank]

Re: Seriously, with the poke checking

In real life, defense is all about body positioning. Taking correct lines to your opponent. Clogging passing lanes. NHL 15 displays none of these. You have 3 options on defense - poke check, body check, or stick lift - all of which are used very limitedly in real hockey. Body checking is used in real life - not the bone-crushing hits that are so prevelent in the NHL series.

I feel like me, Bigwill, and AdamJones are beating a dead horse now. But hopefully EA reads at least one of our comments.

I feel like I've just gotten to the point where i say the same things over and over, but they bear repeating.

EA screwed the pooch, hard. NHL15 somehow managed to be a massive step-back on Next-Gen, and an expensive roster patch for the old-gen systems. If they want customers back (I'm planning to get a PS4 to play The Show) they are going to have to give us reasons.

So far, EA's only shown me that they seem to care about money over everything else. Every Facebook post seems to be a survey or an HUT ad. Their patches seem to be slow, which is made worse by how much should have been patched post-release.

I will be watching the NHL16 development, but after 3 years of seeing the NHL team's focus appear to shift from the game, to making money with HUT in the game, it's become more apparent that other modes just don't get the same level of focus or work done.

[LeafsFan90]

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So far, EA's only shown me that they seem to care about money over everything else.

I am not saying you do not have valid points but this was a pointless statement because every video game developer cares about money first

[manitoba450es]

Re: Seriously, with the poke checking

In real life, defense is all about body positioning. Taking correct lines to your opponent. Clogging passing lanes. NHL 15 displays none of these. You have 3 options on defense - poke check, body check, or stick lift - all of which are used very limitedly in real hockey. Body checking is used in real life - not the bone-crushing hits that are so prevelent in the NHL series.

I feel like me, Bigwill, and AdamJones are beating a dead horse now. But hopefully EA reads at least one of our comments.

You can also block shots, put your stick down to block passes, dive to knock the puck away. I agree that the defense AI is kind of dumb on your own team which sucks cause you have to play a collapse scheme and user control the defensive player to guard the back door pass.

[actionhank]

Re: Seriously, with the poke checking

I am not saying you do not have valid points but this was a pointless statement because every video game developer cares about money first

No doubt. I'm not saying that their financial gain shouldn't be a priority, obviously they're in the business of making money, and they have share holders to answer to, and employees to pay.

That said, i don't think it's a stretch to say that EA has pretty thoroughly ignored other aspects of the game. Be a GM, Franchise mode, regular online play, gameplay editing, all have taken a backseat to HUT. Just looking at their Facebook and twitter feeds shows their focus.

Going back to the release of NHL15, the number of posts even indicating that they acknowledge and plan to improve on their objectively poor release are completely dwarfed by posts about HUT. I don't know that I've ever seen anything along the lines of "Which patch items would you most like to see?" or "Is there a feature you want added to the game", but I've seen countless posts of "Which HUT player do you want for your team?" "Who is the best center?".

Don't get me wrong, i want EA's NHL branch making stupid money. Because that means that the game is doing well, they can hire more people to keep improving, and that hockey as a whole is getting representation. But when EA releases packs of slightly up-rated players, and spends time on "Legend rosters!" it gets frustrating as someone who is sitting out on the release because the game modes i find the most interesting got largely ignored by EA for what seems to be lack of ability to be milked for cash.

You can also block shots, put your stick down to block passes, dive to knock the puck away. I agree that the defense AI is kind of dumb on your own team which sucks cause you have to play a collapse scheme and user control the defensive player to guard the back door pass.

I really wish for NHL16, that among a laundry list of changes, improved defensive control is among them. That diving poke check is a perfect example. It's a nice desperation attempt, but the worst part of it is, it takes all of the skill away from you, and makes it almost 100% a roll of the dice. Instead of rewarding me for my timing the dive, and managing to get an angle on the player/puck that allows me to hit the puck without crushing the player, I dive and have no control over how my player swings his stick. So, if I'm coming down the ice on the right side of a right-handed player, and I'm right handed, my player inexplicably will swing his stick from the left to the right, getting nothing but skates and missing the puck by a mile, only to result in me getting a penalty shot called, despite having had a clear attempt to poke the puck if i was only able to swing from right to left.

Little things like that, where the AI automates itself, and i can't control it (tie-ups in front of the net, I'm looking angrily at you...) drive me nuts. I want more control, not less.