O.S.F.M. 2015 Recruiting(joint ops with Hybrid Set)

[Knight165]

Okay MLBTS brethren.......once again....it's time for the creation of the Operation Sports Full Minors roster.

While basically....things will be the same as usual....we are also going to be creating the Hybrid set in conjunction with the stock O.S.F.M.
The Hybrid set is usually one that Willard76 and teeds(both editors for the O.S.F.M. as well) work on after helping complete the stock O.S.F.M.
Both take on quite a bit of work for the original set before tackling an equally tough job in creating the Hybrid.
This year....we will facilitate this by working on both at the same time instead of waiting one for the other.
The minor league players created for each set will be the same.....the only real difference is that Willard76 and teeds will import them onto the updated SCEA players....while Ridin' will import them into the "stock" O.S.F.M.

This is fortuitous for all of us this year as it will cut down on some time for the Hybrid crew....and with me being extremely busy at work this year(and next likely).....I will have to take on a much smaller role in the editing process this year.
HOPEFULLY.....this year will be the last that any roster creator has to create an entire roster from scratch.
Ramone hinted that year to year roster carry over might be a possibility.
I will keep on him about that this year.

We will need as many editors as possible again....and I would like to thank in advance those that contribute year after year. Your work is much appreciated not only by myself and Ridin'....but from the amount of downloads and rating approval...the MLBTS community en masse.
You guys do a great job and I'm really looking forward to seeing great end products once again!

If you're interested...please post here...or contact myself...RidinDwnKingsley....Willard76 or teeds.
If you want to help in any way....we will gladly take all hands.
Thank you!

M.K.
Knight165

[RidinDwnKingsley]

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Knight as always thanks for taking lead and getting this thread up. It always an honor to work on this set, I look forward to it every year.

[teeds]

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Exciting times!

I'll take on the O's and the 'stros. I can also help with TEX, SD, STL, and whoever else really.

[ShowTyme15]

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Here's some useful information for anyone who is doing contracts.

http://www.baseballplayersalaries.com/

[RidinDwnKingsley]

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Ill start Philly and do all importing, then whatever else we need

[Ivanhoe]

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I'd be happy to take on the Detroit Tigers again this year.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I'll be in my lab working on defensive ratings for SCEA players (for the Hybrid). I can also help with contracts for both versions. In some respects we may have to wait and see what options we have for editing contracts (whether they can be edited outside of modes etc..).

I'd suggest BRef for contracts since you can view them by whole teams of players at the same time. Their data is based on Cot's, which is the gold standard. The link that ShowTyme posted above has some interesting info, especially comparing salaries to value, but it looks like you can only look at one player at any given time.

[TattooedEvil]

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can anyone explain what the exact difference is between "hybrid" and "base" roster?

[MauerMorneau09]

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Thank you once again Knight!

I'm willing to do the Twins once again this year!

[Willard76]

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can anyone explain what the exact difference is between "hybrid" and "base" roster?

The Hybrid rerates all SCEA players using ZiPs as a base where the stock roster will only have created players rated. The Hybrid basically brings consistency across the board. Also this year unless someone else does different the Hybrid will be the roster with all the external edits, equipment, pitch edits etc.

I will take on the Blue Jays and spearhead accuracy with faces on other teams this year, I will help anyone who me to copy faces for them this year as well.

If anyone has the ability to copy faces from last year's roster and did not see the final versions of the Hybrid during the offseason, we suggest going that route. Teeds and I spent many hours last year tweaking and without biased I feel we created one heck of an accurate looking roster - I say that because Teeds did most of the work including fixing some of my work. I personally will be working either with a PS3/ps4 2 tv system to copy last year's faces.

As well, Teeds is currently working on a spreadsheet to use for ratings based off Steamer and Oliver prospect projections. While these may not give perfect ratings they give fairly accurate bases. We are also looking right now at the ratings tables Knight has always provided to see if they need some tweaks. We found last year the pitching and some hitting ratings values had changed a bit

[gamer052001]

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The Hybrid rosters last year had considerably lower ratings across the board than the OSFM set. How will combining the minor leaguers this year factor in to the difference between CAPS and SCEA players? In other words if random AAA left fielder is rated 75 across both roster sets and that organization's MLB left fielder is an 84 on OSFM stock and a 78 with Hybrid. Wouldn't that make the minor leaguers much better in comparison to the major leaguers in the Hybrid version?

[Willard76]

O.S.F.M. 2015 Recruiting(joint ops with Hybrid Set)

The Hybrid rosters last year had considerably lower ratings across the board than the OSFM set. How will combining the minor leaguers this year factor in to the difference between CAPS and SCEA players? In other words if random AAA left fielder is rated 75 across both roster sets and that organization's MLB left fielder is an 84 on OSFM stock and a 78 with Hybrid. Wouldn't that make the minor leaguers much better in comparison to the major leaguers in the Hybrid version?

If you use the same base ratings set for your OSFM creation it should match well either set.

The last 2 years when I was looking over ratings about half the guys had used ZiPs or our ratings last year and were very close to matching up with what most projections were saying the player should do while the other half honestly were all over the map. I think the biggest discrepancy in the past has been different systems used for rating prospects, guys misjudging how far away a player was or maybe in some cases overvaluing prospects which we all do if you are a fan of an organization.

There will be cases where the current MLB starter technically is lower rates overall then a prospect because of tenure or other values he may bring to a team - happens a lot with pitchers.

If we can get everyone to use the same ratings system though at least there will be uniformity across the board so whether you are using the hybrid or the stock roster it will work.

[teeds]

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The Hybrid rosters last year had considerably lower ratings across the board than the OSFM set. How will combining the minor leaguers this year factor in to the difference between CAPS and SCEA players? In other words if random AAA left fielder is rated 75 across both roster sets and that organization's MLB left fielder is an 84 on OSFM stock and a 78 with Hybrid. Wouldn't that make the minor leaguers much better in comparison to the major leaguers in the Hybrid version?

I don't want to clog the thread up with this discussion because that isn't what it's for but I'll say this, we do our due diligence to make sure things fall in line based on multiple sims. In many many cases last year I personally rerated minor leaguers to slot them where they should be in the organization while taking into account numerous factors (prospect status, age, minor league numbers, and so on). This is why it's vitally important from the get go that all OSFM roster creators use similar projections systems for reference. Then you need to scale back ratings for prospects based on potential and years away, etc. It all works out. Otherwise this whole hybrid roster would've been scrapped. We strive for accuracy and have no intention of settling for anything less.

[JoeCoolMan24]

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Here is the best source you could ask for in terms of player salary.....

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/

[sxaalex]

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I don't want to clog the thread up with this discussion because that isn't what it's for but I'll say this, we do our due diligence to make sure things fall in line based on multiple sims. In many many cases last year I personally rerated minor leaguers to slot them where they should be in the organization while taking into account numerous factors (prospect status, age, minor league numbers, and so on). (This is why it's vitally important from the get go that all OSFM roster creators use similar projections systems for reference. Then you need to scale back ratings for prospects based on potential and years away, etc. It all works out.) Otherwise this whole hybrid roster would've been scrapped. We strive for accuracy and have no intention of settling for anything less.

Last years osfm each team roster creators had ratings too high depending on the prospect level.I can recall teams like the cardinals and mariners had single A players rated in the 70's.You would have propsect reaching in the 80's within one year of your franchise.This goes as well for prospect potential.They progress too fast in your franchise.Knight and others needs to stress this need to be a coordination how to properly rate propsect from all levels on ratings and potential.You shouldn't have single A or AA prospect rated in the 70's.